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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 28, 2009 3:25pm
With OSU losing to OU today the BCS bowls are prett ymuch set now:
NC game : SEC winner vs. Texas
Sugar: SEC loser vs. Cincy/Pitt winner
Orange: GT/Clemson vs. TCU
Fiesta: Boise St. vs. Iowa/PSU
Rose: OSU vs. Oregon/OSU winner
This is assuming Texas beats Nebraska. In the end the Fiesta Bowl will only have to decide which Big Ten team they want. I think if Cincy loses to Pitt they will be left out and not receive an at large bid.
NC game : SEC winner vs. Texas
Sugar: SEC loser vs. Cincy/Pitt winner
Orange: GT/Clemson vs. TCU
Fiesta: Boise St. vs. Iowa/PSU
Rose: OSU vs. Oregon/OSU winner
This is assuming Texas beats Nebraska. In the end the Fiesta Bowl will only have to decide which Big Ten team they want. I think if Cincy loses to Pitt they will be left out and not receive an at large bid.
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ZalKath
Posts: 109
Nov 28, 2009 3:38pm
looks good to me
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 28, 2009 3:41pm
OK just for debating. What happens if Florida loses today AND next week against Bama??
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Nov 28, 2009 3:43pm
Florida will still play for the Sugar bowl then. Is my guess.
It's already set that it'll be Alabama and Florida for the SEC Championship game. So even if they were to lose both, they'd still get that bid.
It's already set that it'll be Alabama and Florida for the SEC Championship game. So even if they were to lose both, they'd still get that bid.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 28, 2009 3:59pm
The better thing to debate is say Florida loses today and then beats Bama and both teams would finish at 12-1. This would make Texas vs. either TCU or Cincy for the national title. A texas loss to Nebraska would mean the same thing for either TCU or Cincy.
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ZeroCool
Posts: 264
Nov 28, 2009 4:13pm
i would rather see tcu play better competition in the orange bowl. there has to be better teams to put in there besides clemson or gt.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 28, 2009 4:26pm
Agreed. I'd love TCU to play in the Sugar Bowl.ZeroCool wrote: i would rather see tcu play better competition in the orange bowl. there has to be better teams to put in there besides clemson or gt.
I also, this is a minority opinion, but think the loser of the Oregon St./ Oregon game should head to a BCS bowl over PSU/Iowa.
The Big Ten has been awful this year while the Pac-10 has been up there with the SEC for best conference. I would rather see a good, solid Pac-10 team than a Big Ten sucking it up again in a BCS bowl game.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Nov 28, 2009 4:41pm
i think it'll be big east vs acc in the orange bowl with tcu taking on the sec loser in the sugar bowl
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 28, 2009 4:58pm
ptown_trojans_1 wrote:Agreed. I'd love TCU to play in the Sugar Bowl.ZeroCool wrote: i would rather see tcu play better competition in the orange bowl. there has to be better teams to put in there besides clemson or gt.
I also, this is a minority opinion, but think the loser of the Oregon St./ Oregon game should head to a BCS bowl over PSU/Iowa.
The Big Ten has been awful this year while the Pac-10 has been up there with the SEC for best conference. I would rather see a good, solid Pac-10 team than a Big Ten sucking it up again in a BCS bowl game.
I understand your argument. The problem is that you have to be ranked in the top 14 to get an atlarge bid. Oregon State isn't in it right now and I loss to Oregon would probably put them between 21-25.
I would agree that if Oregon lost they would still be deserving of an at large bid, but not Oregon State. Problem is that Oregon and Oregon State do not have large fan bases willing to travel.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 28, 2009 5:00pm
Looks good except for the Penn St/Iowa part. Any game they would be involved in would be over by the 3rd quarter
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 28, 2009 6:17pm
Penn State and Iowa have no business being in the BCS argument. The Big Ten this year is a one-bid league
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Nov 28, 2009 6:26pm
GT is legit, their only loss was early to Miami when Miami was looking really good. They have a Paul Johnson-system so they don't have a typical offense, but watching them a lot this year and comparing them to other top teams, say Alabama, I'd say if they play Bama 10 times GT wins at least 5.ZeroCool wrote: i would rather see tcu play better competition in the orange bowl. there has to be better teams to put in there besides clemson or gt.
Of course now I said that watch them lose to UGA.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 28, 2009 6:27pm
Tech really is legit. They should put a whoopin' on Georgia tonight.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 28, 2009 6:53pm
Iowa took OSU to overtime in Columbus with their backup QB. So you essentially believe the Rose Bowl will be over in the 3rd quarter as well?jordo212000 wrote: Looks good except for the Penn St/Iowa part. Any game they would be involved in would be over by the 3rd quarter
Boise St. hasn't seen a defense even close to Iowa or PSU all season. Iowa or PSU would beat Boise St.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 28, 2009 6:56pm
Iowa can't score enough points to compete with Boise. Boise would find away around that Iowa defense and to protect the QB; Iowa did take OSU to the wire but also had a pedestrian win over a shitty Iowa State team and squeakers over Sun Belt Arkansas State and FCS Northern Iowa
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 28, 2009 9:20pm
Buckeye fan here, and yes I think the Rose Bowl could very well be over by the 3rd quarter. Especially if they play Oregon. The Big 10 is very weak this year and if Tress doesn't bring some sort of creativity with him to Pasadena, things could get ugly IMOslingshot4ever wrote:
Iowa took OSU to overtime in Columbus with their backup QB. So you essentially believe the Rose Bowl will be over in the 3rd quarter as well?
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 28, 2009 9:23pm
it really could. We're not just going to be able to grind out a win in this one; we run the ball fairly well but not enough to just melt the clock away against Oregon; they'll figure out a way to load the box and stop us. I hope Oregon State can find a way to win Thurs. night
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 28, 2009 9:27pm
The Pac-10 has not been good at all this season.ptown_trojans_1 wrote: I also, this is a minority opinion, but think the loser of the Oregon St./ Oregon game should head to a BCS bowl over PSU/Iowa.
The Big Ten has been awful this year while the Pac-10 has been up there with the SEC for best conference. I would rather see a good, solid Pac-10 team than a Big Ten sucking it up again in a BCS bowl game.
You honestly think a 4-loss Oregon State team who wasn't a conference champ should get a bid over Iowa OR PSU?
It's a minority opinion because it's insane.
Also, GT is untested to me. They've beaten average teams from a bad ACC. They didn't do anything worth noting out of conference. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Clemson beats them and the ACC sends a 4-loss team to the BCS for a 2nd straight year (which is another reason why automatic bids are a joke).
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 28, 2009 9:32pm
How about a 4 loss Florida State team that took Penn State to the wire in the Orange Bowl a couple years ago? it doesn't matter how many losses you have; you win the league you get the bid that's how its set up.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 28, 2009 9:42pm
Georgia taking it to Georgia Tech right now....but GT is very lucky...so we'll see
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 28, 2009 9:43pm
Tech doesn't seem to have an answer right now
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Nov 28, 2009 9:45pm
They are lost without Nesbitt.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 28, 2009 9:47pm
it certainly seems like it
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 28, 2009 10:38pm
Why isn't Nesbitt in, I have not been watching.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 28, 2009 10:39pm
I don't know, been watching Kentucky shit the bed