Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 22, 2010 12:15am
This Oregon team has defense as well though, its not just high scoringcats gone wild;528287 wrote:I cant wait for Oregon to be in a bowl game. Put them up against a good defense or a good running team and they will get beat. Bama's backfield would tear them up and would control the clock. Oregon is like Oklahoma 2 years ago. Everyone thought they were awesome and I knew they would get exposed (jj huddle days). OK scored 60 + in many games and scored 14 against UF. OSU had an amazing offense (no offense towards bucks fans) and a great defense stopped them. Oklahoma had a high scoring offense in 2003 and got beat by LSU's defense. Oregon was big and bad last year, and OSU took them to the woodshed. Wait until Oregon plays a "real" team.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Oct 22, 2010 12:17am
Hb31187;528297 wrote:This Oregon team has defense as well though, its not just high scoring
Yeah, the type of defense that gives up 600 yards in one game to ASU. Nice try though.
http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3377&SPID=233&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=500&ATCLID=205001165
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 22, 2010 12:18am
When your offense scores every 3 seconds your defense is gonna be on the field OFTEN thus inflating the yards they give up a game....cats gone wild;528298 wrote:Yeah, the type of defense that gives up 600 yards in one game.
killdeer
Posts: 1,538
Oct 22, 2010 12:18am
If Vegas would have laid out a Oregon -45, do you think anyone would have bit?
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Oct 22, 2010 12:21am
There's no excuse for 600 yards. Period. As I said, put a team that's successful running the ball who wastes the clock...........Oregon wont be scoring nearly as much. Has Oregon played a good defense this year?Hb31187;528300 wrote:When your offense scores every 3 seconds your defense is gonna be on the field OFTEN thus inflating the yards they give up a game....
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 22, 2010 12:23am
Whod they give up 600 to? i see 500 to stanford
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 22, 2010 12:25am
And when your defense is on the field SOOOO often yards really cant be used to gauge how good the defense is. They've given up 23 points all year in the 2nd half and 7 points int he 4th quarter(that was tonight). Most, actually almost ALL defenses in the country would give up a lot of yards if they were on the field that often.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Oct 22, 2010 2:29am
Hb31187;528306 wrote:Whod they give up 600 to? i see 500 to stanford
I already posted above to who........ASU, and I gave a link.
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chief_wigam
Posts: 105
Oct 22, 2010 7:42am
Oregon = FRAUD. I can think of roughly 8 teams that would beat Oregon.
gerb131
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Oct 22, 2010 8:39am
chief_wigam;528381 wrote:Oregon = FRAUD. I can think of roughly 8 teams that would beat Oregon.
Please list the 8.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 22, 2010 8:45am
Is the Pac 10 the "new" SEC? God I hate those bassturds.
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bigkahuna
Posts: 4,454
Oct 22, 2010 10:52am
As a Michigan fan, I WISH we ran at that tempo. We seem slow compared to that.
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fan_from_texas
Posts: 2,693
Oct 22, 2010 11:16am
Oregon is the real deal, and they're deserving at #1. UCLA isn't a bad team and has a decent defense (see, e.g., Texas and Houston). Oregon absolutely destroyed UCLA.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Oct 22, 2010 11:29am
Very impressive last night! I don't know if they are the best team in the country, but they are certainly on the short list.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Oct 22, 2010 11:34am
Good defense beats good offense more times that not. Oregon will lose a game this year imo
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 22, 2010 11:43am
fan_from_texas;528522 wrote:Oregon is the real deal, and they're deserving at #1. UCLA isn't a bad team and has a decent defense (see, e.g., Texas and Houston). Oregon absolutely destroyed UCLA.
+1
The offense is much better and more complex than last years. Plus, the defense is faster in the LB and secondary. The dline is their weakness. But, if they do play a running team that can score or an offense like say USC, it could give them a running.
But, honestly, what defense could shut them totally down?
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 22, 2010 11:47am
cats gone wild;528298 wrote:Yeah, the type of defense that gives up 600 yards in one game to ASU. Nice try though.
http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3377&SPID=233&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=500&ATCLID=205001165
Iunno, maybe ASU is pretty good?
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 22, 2010 1:05pm
What was the result of the Arizona State/Oregon game? Did those yards add up to extra points?
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Oct 22, 2010 2:21pm
ASU isnt ranked are they?ptown_trojans_1;528555 wrote:Iunno, maybe ASU is pretty good?
karen lotz;528649 wrote:What was the result of the Arizona State/Oregon game? Did those yards add up to extra points?
They scored 31 and it must of kept Oregon off the field a good amount. Oregon only won by 11. Imagine if Oregon played a team that was better than ASU. ASU doesnt have a good defense either. Oregon='s Oklahoma of years past. Book it. I was right on Oklahoma 2 years ago and no one believed me.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Oct 22, 2010 2:31pm
I love watching that Oregon offense...it is so efficient, and perfectly executed. This is the Duck's year!
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 22, 2010 3:26pm
Nope, but that will happen when you nearly lose to Wisconsin, Oregon and Oregon St. in three straight weeks. Just because they are not ranked, does not mean they are not a solid team.cats gone wild;528706 wrote:ASU isnt ranked are they?
Oregon's defense is good enough to stop the bleeding to where their offense will win the game. Put them in a game with a good defense and Oregon may still score points, but we don;t know. I still say this offense is better than last years, by a lot.They scored 31 and it must of kept Oregon off the field a good amount. Oregon only won by 11. Imagine if Oregon played a team that was better than ASU. ASU doesnt have a good defense either. Oregon='s Oklahoma of years past. Book it. I was right on Oklahoma 2 years ago and no one believed me.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Oct 22, 2010 3:29pm
cats gone wild;528706 wrote:ASU isnt ranked are they?
They scored 31 and it must of kept Oregon off the field a good amount. Oregon only won by 11. Imagine if Oregon played a team that was better than ASU. ASU doesnt have a good defense either. Oregon='s Oklahoma of years past. Book it. I was right on Oklahoma 2 years ago and no one believed me.
I agree with this. Been there, done that with these types of offenses....for several years. Oregon deserves to be ranked right where they are (they even have a case for #1). But I'm not going to be shocked at all if/when they lose a game.
When someone says, you're going to give up that many yards/points when your defense is on the field that much, it really just makes the case for why Oregon will eventually fall. There's going to be a team that is good enough, if only on that day, to slow their offense down and the defense is still going to wear out.
The Oklahoma with Bradford is the exact same situation. You can say, but this offense....blah blah blah...but no one had put up numbers like that Oklahoma offense...ever. And they were completely shut down.
If Oregon does make it to the national title game, I wouldn't pick them over OSU or an SEC team.
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chief_wigam
Posts: 105
Oct 22, 2010 11:08pm
gerb131;528406 wrote:Please list the 8.
Auburn
Alabama
TCU
Boise
OSU
Wisky
Iowa
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 22, 2010 11:18pm
That is only 7. 3 teams from Big Ten?? Shocking.chief_wigam;529161 wrote:Auburn
Alabama
TCU
Boise
OSU
Wisky
Iowa
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 22, 2010 11:23pm
chief_wigam;529161 wrote:Auburn
Alabama
TCU
Boise
OSU
Wisky
Iowa
Really? Wis only beat ASU at home by 2 or 3 (missed EP by ASU) and Iowa lost to Arizona. I wouldn't see them hanging with Oregon.
The others, maybe. But, as we saw against Wisconsin, OSU's defense is very weak up the middle, and Oregon would exploit that.
Auburn, Bama, TCU and Boise would be great, close games.