NBA's New Technical Foul Ruling's Are Already A Joke

Pro Sports 37 replies 1,610 views
osu45804's avatar
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 14, 2010 11:19am
I know both of these clips are from Celtics games so I'll probably be labeled as bias or a "homer" lol ..... But seriously if this is what is going to be called all year long the NBA is going to blow away what ever record there is for most FT attempts in a season with this mess...... I'm a Celtics fan so of course I love a Tommy Heinsohn meltdown lol ... NBA = Where Stupid Happens!!

Jermaine O' Neal gets Technical vs. Sixers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3COKTtJvq9c&hd=1

Garnett gets Double Technicals vs. Knicks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C_yYeLLZkw


Neither video would embed for some reason
wildcats20's avatar
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 14, 2010 11:33am
Those were bad. But the worst has been Reggie Evans and Grant Hill. Both got tossed for slapping each others ass.

Oh and quit being such a homer.
C
Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 14, 2010 11:37am
I would like to see any technical fouls added to the personal fouls total of the respective player.
2quik4u's avatar
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Oct 14, 2010 12:09pm
if this is how its going to be duncan lebron and kobe will be suspended the whole season
C
Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 14, 2010 12:15pm
They need to just shut up and play.
W
wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Oct 14, 2010 12:18pm
The NBA as a whole is a joke.
osu45804's avatar
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 14, 2010 12:23pm
Con_Alma;519237 wrote:They need to just shut up and play.

Neither player did anything in the two clips ..... KG was just laughing at a previous Technical & got T'd up and looked at the official and got another one

O'Neal got called with a Block and just looked at the official and got a Tech, No words were said in either situation
C
Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 14, 2010 12:29pm
My statement regarding "shutting up" wasn't directly referring to those two incidents but rather the players in the past and their mouths.

Actions alone however are enough to warrant a technical.

I'd like to see it get more like baseball whereby if you do anything to show up and offical you are geoing to get t'd up. It looks like how they are going to interpret and apply this rule is getting closer to that.
OneBuckeye's avatar
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Oct 14, 2010 12:37pm
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2010-10-14/nba-world-abuzz-about-new-technical-foul-rules
The NBA has issued a mandate this season for referees to crack down on players overreacting to what they perceive to be bad calls, and many league observers are hoping Wednesday night’s Celtics-Knicks preseason game does not portend what will happen when the regular season starts.

Boston center Jermaine O’Neal drew his second technical foul in as many nights for moderately reacting to a foul called on him, and Kevin Garnett was ejected after being hit with two technicals within seconds of one another.

“I walked up to [the official] and he said, ‘Jermaine, walk away,’” O’Neal said after the game. “I said, ‘I can’t talk to you now?’ Just like that. Soft, bedroom voice. And he gave me a tech. ... To me, that’s too quick. Way too quick.”

Garnett was given his first technical for trying to demonstrate to a ref how a Knicks player fouled him and was ejected after being slapped with his second “T” for laughing about the first.

”This is stupid!” Celtics TV analyst Tommy Heinsohn said in reaction to the Garnett ejection “… the NBA, it’s stupid!”

“These new rules are very, very excessive,” O’Neal told Yahoo! Sports before the game. “They’re telling us the general public says we whine too much, but look at the way the NBA’s business is growing globally. I can see both sides of this. No one wants to see complaining over every call, but look at the rules. You can’t even make a hand gesture — never mind say anything.”

NBA writers are also complaining the new rules are excessive.

”Until both players and referees adjust to [NBA Commissioner David] Stern’s latest new world order,” CBS Sports’ Ken Berger writes, “we have a mess — a needless controversy of the NBA’s own making.”

Yahoo! Sports Adrian Wojnarowski adds, “The biggest stars can be some of the NBA’s most emotional gripers, and they ought dare Stern and his refs to start tossing them out of regular season games. The league office loves to bully, but never has the stomach for a true fight. Let’s see how fast the public repudiates the NBA and this false premise born of phony market research.”

In fact, two players agents told Yahoo! that they want the players’ association to contest the legality of the new rules as it applies to the collective bargaining agreement.

But the mandate has its supporters, too, including Pistons guard Ben Gordon. “I’m all for it, and I think it will make the game go a lot smoother,” Gordon told the Detroit Free Press. “There are times when guys are complaining a bit excessively. It kind of slows the game down. It messes with the flow of the game.”

Celtics coach Doc Rivers did not exactly come to his players’ defense after Thursday’s game.

“Listen, the rules are the rules and we have to have more discipline,” Rivers told the Boston Globe. “Kevin, JO, I told all of them that. Whether they deserved it or not, I think both sides, we’ve got to use our judgment a little bit better. It shouldn’t be just a tech [for debating a call]. Having said that, we know the rules. We have to have discipline. We can’t worry about them. We have to be better.’’

And Yahoo! NBA blogger Kelly Dwyer points out that officials liberally doling out technical fouls during the preseason is nothing new. “Seemingly every fall the league announces that it will do more to crack down on traveling violations, while promising to enforce stricter technical-foul rules along the way,” Dwyer writes. “And, every fall, the NBA follows through on this promise. At least until the regular season starts.”



Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2010-10-14/nba-world-abuzz-about-new-technical-foul-rules#ixzz12LsZxXZu
C
Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 14, 2010 12:48pm
"...O’Neal said after the game. “I said, ‘I can’t talk to you now?’ Just like that. Soft, bedroom voice. And he gave me a tech. ... ..."

Perfect. Just shut your mouth and play.

"...Garnett was given his first technical for trying to demonstrate to a ref how a Knicks player fouled him and was ejected after being slapped with his second “T” for laughing about the first...."

There is no reason to show the official. It won't change the call. If he want's to laugh about it, he can ...all he wants...in the locker room.
wildcats20's avatar
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 14, 2010 1:17pm
Yeah to be honest, if a ref tells you to be quiet or to walk away, then you do it. And a vet like JO should know to do exactly that. Nowhere in the rule book does it say a ref has to listen or take anything from a player.

But it all is a test period right now and it will take some adjusting, just like that article says.
Laley23's avatar
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 14, 2010 2:03pm
I love it. Hopefully after a few weeks of enforcing it, guys to to huddle with their teammates after fouls and not talk to (even calmly) to an official. As a ref, I fucking HATE it when players talk to me about a foul. I dont mind them asking what the call was, but be happy with my response and GTFO of my face.
sleeper's avatar
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 14, 2010 2:15pm
Dumb. I think the players whine too much, but its pretty ridiculous they can't at least talk to the refs or laugh. How does laughing affect the game? The tech should only be giving out if the player is slowing the game down.

Anyway, once Lebron and Kobe start getting thrown out of every game, Stern will probably have to step in. Heck, I can't think of 10 players in the league who don't whine after every call, the NBA where jokes happen.
wildcats20's avatar
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 14, 2010 2:38pm
Its called showing up an official.
osu45804's avatar
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 14, 2010 4:10pm
Tommy's opinion and the reason why KG got his Technicals and thrown out at the 48 second mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTCRNKyWPV8&hd=1

I like KG's reaction "Are you serious?"
thedynasty1998's avatar
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Oct 14, 2010 4:41pm
Absolutely ridiculous. The game is about the players, not the refs. If they want to talk to a ref about a call respectfully, the refs should give them the time to explain themselves. I absolutely hate that there is no accountability for refs.
Laley23's avatar
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 14, 2010 4:42pm
KG was probably dropping a bunch of Mutha Fuckas off camera.
hoops23's avatar
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Oct 14, 2010 6:46pm
Jermaine O'Neal is an idiot.

Went to a game a few years ago against the Pacers and sat courtside. JO was agitated from the get go, especially after Pavs ripped him and JO thought it should have been a foul..

Well, JO is later fouled and goes to the line... Get's into a verbal war with a fan sitting behind the basket and repeatedly tells the guy to "Suck my dick"..

Well later on, JO got into it with Pavs again and ended up getting two techs and kicked out. It was pretty awesome to see/hear up close..
ts1227's avatar
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 14, 2010 6:55pm
This is the result of many years of letting the players control the game (unless Joey Crawford was the ref). For once, the players are expected to just play basketball.
Jughead's avatar
Jughead
Posts: 1,261
Oct 14, 2010 7:22pm
Hopefully this message gets through to the younger generation as well.
osu45804's avatar
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 15, 2010 1:28am
NBPA plans legal action over technical fouls

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5686373
the pace of technical fouls being called has picked up noticeably in recent days, with 23 techs being called in nine games Tuesday night and 13 being called in seven games Wednesday.

Boston's Kevin Garnett was ejected from Wednesday night's Celtics-Knicks game, drawing two technical fouls for complaining about a technical foul called against teammate Jermaine O'Neal. In the same game, Knicks center Timofey Mozgov was given a technical foul for mumbling in Russian as he walked past one of the referees
Fly4Fun's avatar
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Oct 15, 2010 12:14pm
I'm behind the NBA 100% on this. Before The Decision my main complaint about LeBron was his whining. I don't want to watch a bunch of grown men pout, scrunch their face and cry to officials.

It won't be a problem once they realize they have to just shut up and play instead of try to debate each act with an official.
Skyhook79's avatar
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Oct 15, 2010 12:55pm
I would like to see them go back to having to raise their hand when they commit a foul.
Hb31187's avatar
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 15, 2010 1:16pm
Sure you dont wanna watch a bunch of guys pouting....but fans dont pay good money to go see bench warmers come in to play when stars get tossed out for complaining about a call. Just leave it the way it was
C
Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 15, 2010 1:20pm
I personally don't watch any sport to see the players individually. I watch the game. I don't care who the players are.


I then avoid it when I see the tantrums like have emerged in the NBA. I think the NBA has to drastically alter the culture in their League. It can't be a mild drift.