FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 11, 2010 2:17pm
vball10set;516196 wrote:more....
http://www.toledoblade.com/article/20101011/SPORTS17/101019937
That couldn't hurt...Rodriguez hinted that personnel changes may be coming on a defense that ranks as the Big Ten's worst.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Oct 11, 2010 2:19pm
Denard at corner--he'd be a bitch!!! 
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 11, 2010 3:27pm
^^^
that's what he'll play in the NFL...may as well get used to it.
that's what he'll play in the NFL...may as well get used to it.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 11, 2010 3:33pm
I think they are replacing Obi Ezeh at MLB with a scarecrow against the Hawkeyes.
stroups
Posts: 3,223
Oct 11, 2010 4:31pm
I see a lot of this happening vs Iowa
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 11, 2010 4:32pm
Yeah he was pissed!
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Zombaypirate
Posts: 581
Oct 11, 2010 5:04pm
WebFire;515228 wrote:Iowa is so good they blew away Arizona....oh wait...
So by your reasoning (which is awful) Arizona is Michigan?
Michigan St spanked Michigan, Iowa's defense is better than Michigan St's Iowa wins this one.
Score?
A guess Iowa 27 Michigan 13
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 11, 2010 10:37pm
Zombaypirate;516459 wrote:
Score?
A guess Iowa 27 Michigan 13
I like your thinking.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 11, 2010 11:29pm
Zombaypirate;516459 wrote:So by your reasoning (which is awful) Arizona is Michigan?
Michigan St spanked Michigan, Iowa's defense is better than Michigan St's Iowa wins this one.
Score?
A guess Iowa 27 Michigan 13
Well you could keep going and say Oregon State > Iowa. Right? By "my" reasoning.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 12, 2010 12:36pm
42-14 Iowa...
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 12, 2010 1:50pm
WebFire;516958 wrote:Right? By "my" reasoning.
By your reasoning, Michigan has an explosive offense. In reality, they're mediocre.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 12, 2010 1:59pm
dlazz;517418 wrote:By your reasoning, Michigan has an explosive offense. In reality, they're mediocre.
Need a couple more games to determine that. You could be right. Or you could be wrong.
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 12, 2010 2:31pm
Opponent/Michigan total yds:
Connecticut (3-3): 473
Notre Dame (3-3): 532
UMass (4-1): 525
Bowling Green (1-5) 721
Indiana (3-2): 574
(#17) Michigan State (6-0): 377
Seems to me like when they play team that don't suck they don't accumulate as many yards (and lose).
Connecticut (3-3): 473
Notre Dame (3-3): 532
UMass (4-1): 525
Bowling Green (1-5) 721
Indiana (3-2): 574
(#17) Michigan State (6-0): 377
Seems to me like when they play team that don't suck they don't accumulate as many yards (and lose).
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 12, 2010 4:30pm
Well 377 yards, 19 first downs, and 4.8 per rush against a top 25 team isn't exactly terrible. It was the the turnovers and bad defense that killed them.
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 12, 2010 5:16pm
I agree with you, I was moreso showing the significant dip in yardage when they play quality teams. They get slowed down quite a bit.WebFire;517606 wrote:Well 377 yards, 19 first downs, and 4.8 per rush against a top 25 team isn't exactly terrible.
As for the turnovers killing them, I agree. But you can't say that it was just Denard making poor throws...he was flustered by the D in his face all game.
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Zombaypirate
Posts: 581
Oct 12, 2010 8:27pm
WebFire;516958 wrote:Well you could keep going and say Oregon State > Iowa. Right? By "my" reasoning.
I would not say that, your reasoning is extremely flawed by comparing Arizona to Michigan.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 13, 2010 9:54am
Zombaypirate;517789 wrote:I would not say that, your reasoning is extremely flawed by comparing Arizona to Michigan.
Which I never did.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 13, 2010 9:54am
dlazz;517643 wrote:I agree with you, I was moreso showing the significant dip in yardage when they play quality teams. They get slowed down quite a bit.
As for the turnovers killing them, I agree. But you can't say that it was just Denard making poor throws...he was flustered by the D in his face all game.
I think it's safe to say that most teams would have more yardage against BG and Indiana than a top 25 team, no?
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Oct 15, 2010 3:14am
Iowa's defense is good, but I think ESPN said Arizona's offense is the highest ranked they've faced, and they're 42nd in the nation. Just putting it into perspective.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 15, 2010 9:27am
Trueblue23;520017 wrote:Iowa's defense is good, but I think ESPN said Arizona's offense is the highest ranked they've faced, and they're 42nd in the nation. Just putting it into perspective.
Stop it with your facts.
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Oct 15, 2010 9:34am
Trueblue23;520017 wrote:Iowa's defense is good, but I think ESPN said Arizona's offense is the highest ranked they've faced, and they're 42nd in the nation. Just putting it into perspective.
That doesn't necessarily mean Iowa's defense isn't great, it just means they haven't played a great offense yet. But then again, I heard similar stuff from Michigan fans last week about Mich St.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 15, 2010 10:08am
So Michigans offense not having played a real defense makes their offense overrated
Iowas defense not having played a real offense just means theyre good and just havent played a real offense?
Iowas defense not having played a real offense just means theyre good and just havent played a real offense?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 15, 2010 10:09am
Well, Mich State did give up 377 yards and 19 first downs.dat dude;520093 wrote:That doesn't necessarily mean Iowa's defense isn't great, it just means they haven't played a great offense yet. But then again, I heard similar stuff from Michigan fans last week about Mich St.
Anyway, Iowa's defense is good. I just don't think it is quite as good as their rankings. I doubt Iowa is a top 5 defense at the end of the season. You?
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Oct 15, 2010 10:24am
No, I do not think they are top 5. I stated earlier on another thread that defensive statistics are largely overrated. However, I do think they are very tough, especially their front four. Probably a top 15 defense.
And I never said the Michigan offense was overrated, so I have no idea what the post is supposed to mean.
And I never said the Michigan offense was overrated, so I have no idea what the post is supposed to mean.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 15, 2010 10:33am
Wasnt just in response to you Dat. Just seems that most people have came to the conclusion that Michigans offense is overrated because they put up so many yards on lesser defenses. But on this thread most of them are saying how Iowa is gonna shut Michigan down because their D is so good,Yet they havent played a real offense themselves. Doesnt really make sense to me