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Sep 28, 2010 7:19 PM
trep14;500482 wrote:Ok I can agree with that..everything else being equal, school name will come into play. But its very unlikely to find two candidates with virtually identical applications. In terms of getting into med school, you are not going to close any doors by attending a DIII college and doing well, just like you will not close doors by attending a state school or an ivy school and doing well.

I can agree with that.

I just disagree with people who say name doesn't mean anything.

Listen, if you go to a D3 school and kick fucking ass on the MCAT, LSAT, GRE, etc, congrats to you and I wish you the best of luck.

But what going to a big school does for you is what I perceive to be an advantage:

1. A lot more opportunities for extracurriculars. If I had attended Rochester I can promise you that I would never have had the opportunity to broadcast a D1 football game, let alone the Rose Bowl.

2. More openings for internships. Fisher Connect is one of the most renowned tools in business schools in America in terms of job placement and internship holding, which is valuable both for graduate school and jobs.

3. A more diverse courseload to choose from.

Those are just 3 off the top of my head. I'm sure there's a few more out there.
Sep 28, 2010 7:19pm
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Sep 28, 2010 7:20 PM
karen lotz;500479 wrote:You also said a 25 on ACT and 1190 on SAT won't get you anywhere close to being admitted. The middle 50% of incoming freshmen from 2009 has ACT scores between 25-30 and SAT scores between 1120-1340. This comes straight from OSU's webpage. This would mean about 25% of students have worse scores than what you said.

Athletes below a 28 are going to bring that down.

Try applying with a 25 and a 1120. You're not going to get in. I know at least on the old huddle and probably here too there were stories of people bitching about getting 26's and 27's (or their son or daughter getting those scores) and not getting in.

The only people who can deny that OSU is now the toughest school in the state to get in besides Case Western or NEOUCOM are haters.
Sep 28, 2010 7:20pm
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Sep 28, 2010 7:26 PM
Wow, a fucking pissing match about which colleges are better and tougher to get into. Aren't there enough things to show how big your dick is on this forum without comparing college admissions? Jesus Christ, you guys need to get a life.
Sep 28, 2010 7:26pm
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Sep 28, 2010 7:53 PM
lhslep134;499970 wrote:Congrats, that's from 2006.

A lot has changed in the past 4 years.

If you look at the bottom, it says median ACT is 25 and SAT is 1190. Those scores won't get you anywhere close to being admitted into OSU now, let alone Fisher.

Nice FAIL dumbass.

Yea they will. The middle 50% of ACT scores at OSU is 25-29.
Sep 28, 2010 7:53pm
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Sep 28, 2010 8:00 PM
lhslep134;500591 wrote: The only people who can deny that OSU is now the toughest school in the state to get in besides Case Western or NEOUCOM are haters.

http://collegeapps.about.com/od/theact/a/top-ohio-act.htm

It looks like Oberlin, Case, Kenyon, and Dennison have equal or better ACT scores than OSU. I don't know if this makes them tougher to get into to but either way this is not the OSU of old.
Sep 28, 2010 8:00pm
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Sep 28, 2010 8:02 PM
my cousin got into OSU main this past spring with a 26 and a 3.8
Sep 28, 2010 8:02pm
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Sep 28, 2010 8:11 PM
LJ;500644 wrote:my cousin got into OSU main this past spring with a 26 and a 3.8

NOT POSSIBLE!!!!
Sep 28, 2010 8:11pm
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Sep 28, 2010 8:31 PM
lhslep134;500591 wrote:
The only people who can deny that OSU is now the toughest school in the state to get in besides Case Western or NEOUCOM are haters.

If not CWRU, what's the point? ;)
Sep 28, 2010 8:31pm
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Sep 28, 2010 8:51 PM
karen lotz;500650 wrote:NOT POSSIBLE!!!!

I know I know... i also like how he is ignoring my post about getting into vet school. I'd also like to add that the absolute hardest thing to do is to get into a top 5 out of state vet school when you have an in state vet school. Every vet student from the state of NY and Pennsylvania (Cornell and Penn vet schools) is from a DIII school
Sep 28, 2010 8:51pm
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Sep 28, 2010 9:49 PM
lhslep134;500591 wrote:Try applying with a 25 and a 1120. You're not going to get in.

You will as a transfer, rather easily.

I agree with most things you say about Ohio State, but don't act like such an elitist.
Sep 28, 2010 9:49pm
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Sep 29, 2010 12:20 AM
LJ;500684 wrote:I know I know... i also like how he is ignoring my post about getting into vet school. I'd also like to add that the absolute hardest thing to do is to get into a top 5 out of state vet school when you have an in state vet school. Every vet student from the state of NY and Pennsylvania (Cornell and Penn vet schools) is from a DIII school

Congratulations on mentioning vet school and the .01% of the working population that that job constitutes.

Wake me up when business, law, and medical schools don't care about undergraduate name.
Sep 29, 2010 12:20am
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Sep 29, 2010 12:21 AM
thedynasty1998;500779 wrote:You will as a transfer, rather easily.

I agree with most things you say about Ohio State, but don't act like such an elitist.

I mean dude it's kind of annoying that people just blatantly disregard how hard it is to get in here as a freshman and how OSU is actually a good school. It's not that I'm an elitist, it's that I'm damn proud of my school and the strides it's taken in the past few years.
Sep 29, 2010 12:21am
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Sep 29, 2010 1:04 AM
We all understand that OSU is a great school and has made great strides in the last few years...

But, don't be such a douche about everything else. Plenty of great DIII schools in the state where you can get an education just as valuable as what you can get at OSU. And, Miami is widely regarded as one of the best schools in the nation in regards to UNDERGRADUATE education, also. It was recently ranked 2nd in the nation in regards to the quality of undergraduate teaching by U.S. News & World Report.

Graduate students...you can talk shit, if you want, as OSU is a great, great place for graduate studies in many different areas.

Undergrads at OSU...not so much, you're not much different than what you'll find at Miami, Denison, Oberlin, Kenyon, etc., etc., etc. Get over yourselves.

Just be happy that you go to a great school, and are going to get a great education. But try to be rational enough to realize that Ohio is full of great universities, and that one can do really, really well having gone to undergrad in number of different places.

Once you get to graduate school, no one is going to give a damn where you went to undergrad. And, the name on your diploma isn't going to make much of a difference, anyways. Just do well, learn a ton, and work hard, work on getting into graduate school, as that will be the name that really matters.
Sep 29, 2010 1:04am
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Sep 29, 2010 9:13 AM
lhslep134;499135 wrote:And a pre-med degree from OSU looks a lot better on a medical school application than a pre-med degree from most D3 schools.
I would disagree with this.
Sep 29, 2010 9:13am
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Sep 29, 2010 9:15 AM
lhslep134;500936 wrote:I mean dude it's kind of annoying that people just blatantly disregard how hard it is to get in here as a freshman and how OSU is actually a good school. It's not that I'm an elitist, it's that I'm damn proud of my school and the strides it's taken in the past few years.

I don't think anyone is discrediting OSU. I know it's difficult to get into as a freshman, but they still accept just about any transfer student. What's the difference from someone who is at OSU for 4 years compared to someone who is there for 2, yet ends up with the same piece of paper?

As for the topic at hand, you seem to be missing out on it. It's about playing college sports. I know some choose not to play at the D3 level, but having it on a resume is valuable and like I said before, playing a college sport will teach you a lot more than you will learn in a classroom.
Sep 29, 2010 9:15am
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Sep 29, 2010 9:46 AM
lhslep134;500935 wrote:Congratulations on mentioning vet school and the .01% of the working population that that job constitutes.

Wake me up when business, law, and medical schools don't care about undergraduate name.
I mean you do realize it is harder to get into vet school then any of the three you mentioned don't you? Scores and gpas are typically higher as well as extracurriculars
Sep 29, 2010 9:46am
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Sep 29, 2010 9:47 AM
lhslep134;500936 wrote:I mean dude it's kind of annoying that people just blatantly disregard how hard it is to get in here as a freshman and how OSU is actually a good school. It's not that I'm an elitist, it's that I'm damn proud of my school and the strides it's taken in the past few years.

I think its the exact opposite actually, I came away from reading this thread that small private schools are "mediocre at best" and the impression that liberal arts schools are for second rate citizens.

OSU has followed the lead of other state schools, by restricting their freshman population due to a very competitive admissions process. It should be praised....conversely its not right to downgrade my degree because I didn't want to be 1 of 60,000.
Sep 29, 2010 9:47am
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Sep 29, 2010 10:00 AM
thedynasty1998;498991 wrote:First off, baseball is unique in that there really are not many full scholarships to go around, whether it's D2 or D1. So, without knowing exactly what your "scholarship" was for, it's hard to comment on that.

Secondly, each school is unique in majors offered. Sure some smaller schools might not offer an engineering degree while others do. Sounds like it just happens that the school recruiting you didn't offer it.
1. Its been 15 years, so it could have been a 50/50 sports/academic scholarship, I can't remember. I just remember that it was a full ride and I was to play baseball.
2. You won't find too many D2 schools that have engineering. You will find even less D2 schools with chemical engineering. You will find hardly any D2 schools with a good engineering program.
Sep 29, 2010 10:00am
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Sep 29, 2010 10:16 AM
LJ;501084 wrote:I mean you do realize it is harder to get into vet school then any of the three you mentioned don't you? Scores and gpas are typically higher as well as extracurriculars

I disagree with that. Its more competitive to get into vet school because there are significantly less schools, but the applicants aren't more qualified than those for other types of professional schools.
Sep 29, 2010 10:16am
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Sep 29, 2010 10:44 AM
thedynasty1998;501066 wrote:I don't think anyone is discrediting OSU. I know it's difficult to get into as a freshman, but they still accept just about any transfer student. What's the difference from someone who is at OSU for 4 years compared to someone who is there for 2, yet ends up with the same piece of paper?

As for the topic at hand, you seem to be missing out on it. It's about playing college sports. I know some choose not to play at the D3 level, but having it on a resume is valuable and like I said before, playing a college sport will teach you a lot more than you will learn in a classroom.
But my point is that my club golf experience is not much different than the one I would have received at Rochester, although Oak Hill is a slightly better course than Scarlet, and I'd be willing to bet that for the most part, club sports at a big D1 score are about as competitive as most D3 sports.
Sep 29, 2010 10:44am
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Sep 29, 2010 10:46 AM
trep14;501117 wrote:I disagree with that. Its more competitive to get into vet school because there are significantly less schools, but the applicants aren't more qualified than those for other types of professional schools.
The avearage Gpa and such is alightly higher plus a large percentage of vet students already have an advanced degree. On my phone will provide link ltr
Sep 29, 2010 10:46am
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Sep 29, 2010 10:49 AM
georgemc80;501087 wrote:I think its the exact opposite actually, I came away from reading this thread that small private schools are "mediocre at best" and the impression that liberal arts schools are for second rate citizens.

OSU has followed the lead of other state schools, by restricting their freshman population due to a very competitive admissions process. It should be praised....conversely its not right to downgrade my degree because I didn't want to be 1 of 60,000.

A lot of smaller schools ARE mediocre compared to OSU as a whole (everything at OSU not just academics) though, and extremely specialized. The education may be top notch at smaller schools, and in some instances it is, but I'm talking about the whole experience. The people that generally scoff at the idea of going to school with 60,000 students scoff at it because they never experienced it. Honestly, besides gamedays, I have never felt like I go to a school with 60,000 people.

I'll keep using Rochester because that's where I almost went. At Rochester if you were a chemical engineer or science student you are well off because Rochester is regarded as one of the top "non-Ivys" in the science field. However, they don't even have an undergraduate business degree (at the time of my decision) just a business school certificate.

Not having a highly regarded degree in my field of study was one of the main reasons I chose OSU over Rochester, and the fact I would still be able to competitively play golf, just not at the varsity level, but like I just said in my previous post, I firmly believe for the most part that big time club sports are about equal to most D3 sports (Mount Union, lacrosse, and similarly competitive schools are exceptions not the rule).
Sep 29, 2010 10:49am
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Sep 29, 2010 10:51 AM
LJ;501084 wrote:I mean you do realize it is harder to get into vet school then any of the three you mentioned don't you? Scores and gpas are typically higher as well as extracurriculars

Again LJ, it's because of the extremely small amount of Vet jobs and Vet schools.

For the grad schools that make up a much higher percentage of grad students name is still important.
Sep 29, 2010 10:51am
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Sep 29, 2010 11:02 AM
LJ;501138 wrote:The avearage Gpa and such is alightly higher plus a large percentage of vet students already have an advanced degree. On my phone will provide link ltr

I get your point, but when I talk about college sports I was referring more to basketball and football, the one's where there is probably pressure on coaches to win. Other than those two, I would agree that club sports at OSU are just as competitive.
Sep 29, 2010 11:02am
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Sep 29, 2010 11:09 AM
I dont think it matter if it is a d3 school or a d1 school, but it does matter about the schools name and how well you did. I went to a d3 school and people would use the cop out when their gpa wasn't that high "both degrees say the same thing" Yea, that will work if you want some mediocre job maybe. Muskingum is a pretty good school. I know many people who went there. I also know a couple people who went to Marietta and are both working at a fast food restaurant 5 months after their graduation because their job placement is shitty. I go to Akron now, and I would take it any day over a d3. The job placement is good, I am majoring in accounting, which the program ranks in the top 6% of the country. I will have a good job before I even graduate, I can play club sports and still get the same experience you are getting at d3, and I will more than likely be doing this a lot cheaper than you are at some private school.
Sep 29, 2010 11:09am