thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Sep 26, 2010 8:05pm
Mallett is still the best pro QB prospect in college football. The guy has all the physical tools, and although he made some mistakes, those are things he can learn from. He's still only in his second year as a starter, so he's going to make some mistakes. He still threw for 350 yards or whatever it was against the top defense in college football. And as for the interceptions, I remember Manning threw like 30 int's in his rookie year in the NFL. Mistakes can be eliminated, however the skills that Mallett has are God given.
And yes, CBF's hatred on Mallett is a little weird. However, to his credit he's been consistent on his opinions on him.
And yes, CBF's hatred on Mallett is a little weird. However, to his credit he's been consistent on his opinions on him.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Sep 26, 2010 8:39pm
TheMightyGators;497703 wrote:do you think that 1-3 start stings worse than 41-14 or 84-75?
I would say so considering the Ohio State losses were in the title games and even though they were embarassed (in football), a 1-3 start is much worse. That being said, I'm not knocking Notre Dame, I think Notre Dame will be on the right track soon with Kelly coaching. He needs to implement his system with his players. He is the best coach, IMO, at ND since Holtz.
Seeing as you are a Gators fan, do you just enjoy stirring the pot? You aren't a fan of any of the teams or players mentioned, so why did you mention stats from 4 years ago?
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Sep 26, 2010 8:43pm
The guy had a rough 4th quarter, these things happen.
I still think Andrew Luck is the best prospect in college football. While his arm might not be as strong as Malletts it is still above average. He is much more mobile and seems to have a better grasp on the game imo. Mallett got into some trouble a few years ago as well. If it was up to me I would take Luck, he seems more "NFL ready" than Mallett.
I still think Andrew Luck is the best prospect in college football. While his arm might not be as strong as Malletts it is still above average. He is much more mobile and seems to have a better grasp on the game imo. Mallett got into some trouble a few years ago as well. If it was up to me I would take Luck, he seems more "NFL ready" than Mallett.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Sep 26, 2010 8:46pm
Ehh, Peyton Manning had the same sort of knocks on him in college. Predicting the future of QBs is too tough to do, but it is pretty silly to go by a few throws in pressure situations. It counts for some, but people blow this stuff way out of proportion. Same with "winners". People blow "winners" out of proportion as well.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Sep 26, 2010 8:46pm
Is it me or is CBF cockier than usual lately?
Then he'll be the first guy to piss and moan if something goes wrong for his team and others start to pile on.
Let me guess.....another shot at ND/ND fans is sure to come.
Then he'll be the first guy to piss and moan if something goes wrong for his team and others start to pile on.
Let me guess.....another shot at ND/ND fans is sure to come.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Sep 26, 2010 8:53pm
killer_ewok;498372 wrote:Is it me or is CBF cockier than usual lately?
Then he'll be the first guy to piss and moan if something goes wrong for his team and others start to pile on.
Let me guess.....another shot at ND/ND fans is sure to come.
He is the worst...the absolute worst.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Sep 26, 2010 9:08pm
SportsAndLady;498395 wrote:He is the worst...the absolute worst.
Couldn't agree more. Now he'll come back with telling us ND fans how much ND sucks because I said that.
Thanks, we know.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 26, 2010 10:21pm
dwccrew;498360 wrote: Seeing as you are a Gators fan, do you just enjoy stirring the pot? You aren't a fan of any of the teams or players mentioned, so why did you mention stats from 4 years ago?
dwcrew--try and ignore him, and he may just go away..he's a complete moron who adds nothing but consternation to this site.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 26, 2010 10:25pm
TheMightyGators;497703 wrote:do you think that 1-3 start stings worse than 41-14 or 84-75?
dwccrew;498360 wrote: Seeing as you are a Gators fan, do you just enjoy stirring the pot? You aren't a fan of any of the teams or players mentioned, so why did you mention stats from 4 years ago?
dwccrew--ignore him and he might go away...we hope.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 27, 2010 11:31am
Mallett did come up short after scaring the beejeezus out of the Tide early. But he's still the best "pro-style QB" out there and will do just fine in the NFL. I wonder if his head is already in the NFL and he's just going thru the motions at Ark until he can get the hell outta there?
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Sep 27, 2010 11:32am
Tiernan;498947 wrote:Mallett did come up short after scaring the beejeezus out of the Tide early. But he's still the best "pro-style QB" out there and will do just fine in the NFL. I wonder if his head is already in the NFL and he's just going thru the motions at Ark until he can get the hell outta there?
I doubt that, because if that were the case he could have left after last season.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Sep 27, 2010 2:08pm
thedynasty1998;498292 wrote:Mallett is still the best pro QB prospect in college football. The guy has all the physical tools, and although he made some mistakes, those are things he can learn from. He's still only in his second year as a starter, so he's going to make some mistakes. He still threw for 350 yards or whatever it was against the top defense in college football. And as for the interceptions, I remember Manning threw like 30 int's in his rookie year in the NFL. Mistakes can be eliminated, however the skills that Mallett has are God given.
And yes, CBF's hatred on Mallett is a little weird. However, to his credit he's been consistent on his opinions on him.
No hatred, i call it as I see it. And I was in fact, on the money. His mistakes were very poor ones. Especially the last INT. He doesn't have it between the legs. I personally don't believe he will end up being that great of an NFL player like many think. He just does'nt have the "it" factor IMO. There have been MANY a QB have all the physical tools but lack the mental aspect at the next level.
2nd year starter? He had significant time as a true frosh while at Michigan as well. He is very experienced.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Sep 27, 2010 2:09pm
killer_ewok;498372 wrote:Is it me or is CBF cockier than usual lately?
Then he'll be the first guy to piss and moan if something goes wrong for his team and others start to pile on.
Let me guess.....another shot at ND/ND fans is sure to come.
SportsAndLady;498395 wrote:He is the worst...the absolute worst.
Coming from you two bozos...that really hurts. lol Does the word hypocrite ring a bell?
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Sep 27, 2010 2:18pm
centralbucksfan;499182 wrote:He doesn't have it between the legs.
Um, what? That's twice you've said that. And its a weird way to critique a QB.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Sep 27, 2010 2:21pm
centralbucksfan;499182 wrote:No hatred, i call it as I see it. And I was in fact, on the money. His mistakes were very poor ones. Especially the last INT. He doesn't have it between the legs. I personally don't believe he will end up being that great of an NFL player like many think. He just does'nt have the "it" factor IMO. There have been MANY a QB have all the physical tools but lack the mental aspect at the next level.
2nd year starter? He had significant time as a true frosh while at Michigan as well. He is very experienced.
He played sparingly at Michigan. Sure he had a few starts, but they didn't put much pressure on him.
As for the interceptions, there is no excusing them. But let's not put too much on them in terms of NFL readiness or potential. Matt Stafford threw a lot of interceptions in college as well, and had much more talent around him. Yet, many like the promise he's shown.
Whether Mallett turns into a good pro or not is up for debate, but there is no reason to doubt his physical talents and to not take him near the top of the draft.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Sep 27, 2010 2:22pm
dat dude;499203 wrote:Um, what? That's twice you've said that. And its a weird way to critique a QB.
Uh..meaning he has no balls. Big games, they shrivel up! Not hard to figure out.
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Sep 27, 2010 2:23pm
centralbucksfan;499211 wrote:Uh..meaning he has no balls. Big games, they shrivel up! Not hard to figure out. 'Nuff said.
Fair enough. I just have never heard someone say "that guy doesn't have it between the legs."
And I changed your quote to get the "classic cbf" feel to it. I hope you don't mind.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 27, 2010 2:24pm
Naaaah he didn't have that great of year and knew he would've gone late 1st Rd (maybe) and prolly early to middle 2nd Rd.thedynasty1998;498949 wrote:I doubt that, because if that were the case he could have left after last season.
He will easily be Top 10 next draft and that means a HUGE difference in signing money.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Sep 27, 2010 2:25pm
Tiernan;499214 wrote:Naaaah he didn't have that great of year and knew he would've gone late 1st Rd (maybe) and prolly early to middle 2nd Rd.
He will easily be Top 10 next draft and that means a HUGE difference in signing money.
I understand the situation he's in, but you basically said he's throwing in the towel on the season, which just doesn't make sense.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Sep 27, 2010 2:25pm
thedynasty1998;499209 wrote:He played sparingly at Michigan. Sure he had a few starts, but they didn't put much pressure on him.
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He started 3 games, played in 10 games. Threw 140+ passes. He then sat out a year(another year of development) and is now starting his second full season as a starter. I'd say that is significant in terms of experiencs and being in a system/college.
Dont' disagree about the INT's as far as the NFL. But again, I just don't see the "it" factor with him. Not until I at least see him step up in a big game instead of choking. There is something to be said for that, no question.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Sep 27, 2010 2:26pm
centralbucksfan;499211 wrote:Uh..meaning he has no balls. Big games, they shrivel up! Not hard to figure out.
I don't think you can say he doesn't have balls. You can question his decision making, but the dude has balls. He was getting hammered by the Alabama defense and still stood tall in the pocket and made the difficult throws.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Sep 27, 2010 2:28pm
Question for you, a little unrelated and off topic. It seems like the things you are criticizing Mallett for are the same issues most have with Diebler. Diebler doesn't show up in big games and doesn't have it "between the legs" but you defend him. What is the difference?centralbucksfan;499218 wrote:He started 3 games, played in 10 games. Threw 140+ passes. He then sat out a year(another year of development) and is now starting his second full season as a starter. I'd say that is significant in terms of experiencs and being in a system/college.
Dont' disagree about the INT's as far as the NFL. But again, I just don't see the "it" factor with him. Not until I at least see him step up in a big game instead of choking. There is something to be said for that, no question.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Sep 27, 2010 2:32pm
thedynasty1998;499222 wrote:Question for you, a little unrelated and off topic. It seems like the things you are criticizing Mallett for are the same issues most have with Diebler. Diebler doesn't show up in big games and doesn't have it "between the legs" but you defend him. What is the difference?
You serious? YOur comparing a "Heisman" candidate, possible high round NFL draft with potential out his ass with a "role" player? You see, thats what i ahve been telling you for years..your expectations of Diebler are completely unrealistic. Your smarter then that.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Sep 27, 2010 2:36pm
centralbucksfan;499232 wrote:You serious? YOur comparing a "Heisman" candidate, possible high round NFL draft with potential out his ass with a "role" player? You see, thats what i ahve been telling you for years..your expectations of Diebler are completely unrealistic. Your smarter then that.
It doesn't matter the level of talent, you are defending one guy while criticizing another for the same reason. I don't have unrealistic expectations of Diebler, I'd just like to see him elbow someone once, or get a hard rebound or play physical defense, or take a big shot. I don't want to get off topic, but I thought you might be able to answer that.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Sep 27, 2010 2:37pm
thedynasty1998;499235 wrote:It doesn't matter the level of talent......
Uh..ok, maybe your not smarter then that..not after that comment! lol