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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Sep 25, 2010 9:24pm
How many national championships do Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Ben Rothberger, Tony Romo, Brett Favre, Jay Cutler, Michael Vick, Kevin Kolb, Matt Stafford, Chad Henne, and Matt Shaub have combined?
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Sep 25, 2010 9:27pm
rydawg5;497230 wrote:He is obviously much more than that. He is very accurate, has amaizng mechanics. The only negative is the folding under pressure, but that happens sometimes when you are playing the best team in the nation.
He is very accurate? Have a few too many beers when watching him play?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Sep 25, 2010 9:51pm
rydawg5;497230 wrote:He is obviously much more than that. He is very accurate, has amaizng mechanics. The only negative is the folding under pressure, but that happens sometimes when you are playing the best team in the nation.
He isn't much more than anderson that's for sure...He is accurate and has amazing mechanics, like oh let's say ryan leaf, jabustus, Colt McCoy, Brady Quinn, etc. You don't make sense
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Sep 25, 2010 9:53pm
rydawg5;497242 wrote:How many national championships do Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Ben Rothberger, Tony Romo, Brett Favre, Jay Cutler, Michael Vick, Kevin Kolb, Matt Stafford, Chad Henne, and Matt Shaub have combined?
How many of them came out of college with "perfect mechanics and great accuracy"..boom roasted!
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Sep 25, 2010 10:49pm
Andrew Luck by far. Luck is the prototypical QB, and has the smarts to back it up. I'll pass on Mallet.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Sep 25, 2010 10:56pm
rydawg5;497242 wrote:How many national championships do Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Ben Rothberger, Tony Romo, Brett Favre, Jay Cutler, Michael Vick, Kevin Kolb, Matt Stafford, Chad Henne, and Matt Shaub have combined?
I dunno, four?
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Sep 25, 2010 11:51pm
justincredible;497391 wrote:I dunno, four?
Actually 12.. i hope Mallet gets signed by the Omaha Nighthawks..
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Sep 26, 2010 12:17am
Ryan Mallet is NO WHERE near being the best QB in college football.
Andrew Luck is waaaaaay ahead of him in development as a QB.
Being a QB is more than just having a big arm. If that wasn't the case, Derek Anderson would be a great one.
Andrew Luck is waaaaaay ahead of him in development as a QB.
Being a QB is more than just having a big arm. If that wasn't the case, Derek Anderson would be a great one.
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Sep 26, 2010 1:00am
Yes! case in point, Luck with 1 td 2ints against the amazing defense of Notre Dame.. just speed .. I think of speed when i think of the Irsish. I think of cement blocks on feet when I think of Alabama's Defense..hoops23;497476 wrote:Ryan Mallet is NO WHERE near being the best QB in college football.
Andrew Luck is waaaaaay ahead of him in development as a QB.
Being a QB is more than just having a big arm. If that wasn't the case, Derek Anderson would be a great one.
Andrew Luck! Best QB in CFB...
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Sep 26, 2010 1:33am
lmao i was going to say the same thing but refrained. got to love the judgement off one game against the best D in the country.rydawg5;497535 wrote:Yes! case in point, Luck with 1 td 2ints against the amazing defense of Notre Dame.. just speed .. I think of speed when i think of the Irsish. I think of cement blocks on feet when I think of Alabama's Defense..
Andrew Luck! Best QB in CFB...
Early Cuyler
Posts: 1,097
Sep 26, 2010 10:50am
HEY I THOUGHT THAD GIBSON WAS GOING TO BE ON THE OSU FOOTBALL TEAM THIS YEAR?lhslep134;497215 wrote:O rly??
Nice fail dude.
He's a choke job.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Sep 26, 2010 4:13pm
rydawg5;497230 wrote:He is obviously much more than that. He is very accurate, has amaizng mechanics. The only negative is the folding under pressure, but that happens sometimes when you are playing the best team in the nation.
So did Peyton in college.
I want Mallet as well. Can make all the throws. Luck doesnt go downfield as much, and in the NFL you need that. Browns havent had a QB with an arm/skill like Mallet in forever.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Sep 26, 2010 4:28pm
rydawg5;497535 wrote:Yes! case in point, Luck with 1 td 2ints against the amazing defense of Notre Dame.. just speed .. I think of speed when i think of the Irsish. I think of cement blocks on feet when I think of Alabama's Defense..
Andrew Luck! Best QB in CFB...
I'm not making excuses but both of those balls were tipped. The second one went right through his wr's hands.
I would be happy with either guy but I'm leaning towards Luck.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Sep 26, 2010 4:46pm
Yeah rydawg definitely didn't watch the ND/Stanford game
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rydawg5
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Sep 26, 2010 7:14pm
Oh so they have a statistical category for "tipped" ints?
thedynasty1998
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Sep 26, 2010 8:10pm
I still think he's the best. 350 yards against the top defense in the country is still impressive. Sure he made some mistakes with the int's, but he can learn from those.lhslep134;497215 wrote:O rly??
Nice fail dude.
He's a choke job.
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Sep 26, 2010 8:23pm
rydawg5;498224 wrote:Oh so they have a statistical category for "tipped" ints?
Are you evaluating quarterbacks or their respective statistics? Do you think all INTs are equal?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 26, 2010 10:09pm
thedynasty1998;498301 wrote:I still think he's the best. 350 yards against the top defense in the country is still impressive. Sure he made some mistakes with the int's, but he can learn from those.
Derek Anderson agrees with you. Its Andrew Luck and its not close. He's the best QB in this yrs draft IF he decides to come out.
Shabaka Bashaarat
Posts: 43
Sep 26, 2010 10:15pm
Commander of Awesome;498526 wrote:Derek Anderson agrees with you. Its Andrew Luck and its not close. He's the best QB in this yrs draft IF he decides to come out.
You and Dynasty are both idiots if you think both these guys will do well in the NFL. Have you even played a sport in your life? Let the real football experts talk about football while you two play pecker slaps.
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trep14
Posts: 842
Sep 26, 2010 10:22pm
I'd prefer Mallet. I know he just choked against Bama, but its not like any of the top qb's in the NFL right now never choked in their collegiate careers at some point in time. Last time I checked Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers never won an NCAA championship, meaning they lost a game in a season somewhere along the way.
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trep14
Posts: 842
Sep 26, 2010 10:23pm
DeyDurkie5;497279 wrote:He isn't much more than anderson that's for sure...He is accurate and has amazing mechanics, like oh let's say ryan leaf, jabustus, Colt McCoy, Brady Quinn, etc. You don't make sense
You left off guys like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Peyton Manning. They are accurate and have amazing mechanics.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Sep 26, 2010 11:21pm
trep14;498548 wrote:You left off guys like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Peyton Manning. They are accurate and have amazing mechanics.
Yeah they did, and that is only 3 out of everyone of those qb's...
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trep14
Posts: 842
Sep 27, 2010 12:04am
DeyDurkie5;498629 wrote:Yeah they did, and that is only 3 out of everyone of those qb's...
Well, your logic suggested that clearly you didn't want to draft QB's with strong arms and perfect mechanics since Jamarcus Russel, Brady Quinn, Ryan Leaf, and Colt McCoy all had them and they aren't good NFL QB's. I'm pretty sure the Colts are happy that they drafted Manning. Ditto for the Packers and the Patriots.
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Sep 27, 2010 1:13am
Jarmarcus Russel had perfect mechanics? WTF are you talking about..? Brady Quinn? Didn't he have to change the way he gripped the ball? I'm pretty sure that was big news in Browns camp..
I don't remember anyone ever speaking of Colt's "perfect" mechanics.
I don't remember anyone ever speaking of Colt's "perfect" mechanics.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Sep 27, 2010 4:48am
Mallet has all the tools but I don't think he has "it" like a Steve Young or a Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc. I don't think he has it upstairs. JMO.