Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Nov 26, 2009 9:04pm
I dont think hes the best of all time(he is top 5) but the reasons you gave make no sense when trying to prove hes not the greatest.darbypitcher22 wrote: How is Tebow not the greatest of all time? Because America is sick and tired of having him shoved down our throat every chance ESPN, CBS, or anybody else gets. Besides, all of his antics on the field but then sticking to his holyier than thou off of it rubs me the wrong way
Red_Skin_Pride
Posts: 1,226
Nov 26, 2009 9:40pm
^He's not the greatest because he's not a good enough passer. He's effective, and with the talent around him that is enough to win games, but he's not an elite passer. He is top 5, but he's not #1.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Nov 26, 2009 10:53pm
The lady on First Take summed up Tebow pretty well - he may end up being the "most accomplished" player of all time, but that doesn't necessarily make him the "best" player ever.
It is possible to distinguish between individual talent - strengths and weaknesses - and how those were parlayed into success - titles and awards. Tebow has some holes in his game, but he compensates for them, sometimes by relying on his team. Adding to the difficulty of saying who is "best" is the difference in what each position is asked to do. Tebow doesn't really throw a great ball, despite his efficiency. I don't know that you could find a real weakness for guys like Herschel Walker and Barry Sanders.
It is possible to distinguish between individual talent - strengths and weaknesses - and how those were parlayed into success - titles and awards. Tebow has some holes in his game, but he compensates for them, sometimes by relying on his team. Adding to the difficulty of saying who is "best" is the difference in what each position is asked to do. Tebow doesn't really throw a great ball, despite his efficiency. I don't know that you could find a real weakness for guys like Herschel Walker and Barry Sanders.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 26, 2009 11:18pm
I didn't necessarily mean for my reasons to prove why he's not the best, just stating the opinion of probably 80% of the American population that A) Doesn't live in Northern Florida, or Florida in general and B) isn't a bandwagon Gator fan
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Nov 26, 2009 11:50pm
OK, I can't argue with the last few posts. Tebow is not the most spectacular athlete, passer. Great player, but not the GOAT. Most accomplished for sure if they win out. I do think Tebow is the greatest LEADER and will be regarded as the GOAT by many if they win out.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Nov 27, 2009 11:28am
the noles could really throw a wrench into the bcs with a win. i highly doubt it will happen , but it will be interesting to see what happens if the noles win this game . i would suspect the sec will do what ever they can to protect bama and guarantee a spot in the bcs title game
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 27, 2009 10:39pm
If Auburn would have got the W today I'd say Florida State might have a better shot at pulling the upset. Now that they haven't, I don't see Florida State putting up much of a fight
Hesston
Posts: 516
Nov 28, 2009 10:23am
I would love to see Florida State upset Urb and his Gators........ but it ain't gona happen.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Nov 28, 2009 1:39pm
I am rooting for an FSU upset but I agree won't happen.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Nov 28, 2009 3:31pm
I like white helmets..I liked the Bucks last week and Florida is rocking them this week. They look sharp.
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mallymal614
Posts: 3,746
Nov 28, 2009 3:31pm
Is this game about Florida or Tim Tebow!?!?! My goodness, they love to hype that man up!
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 28, 2009 3:34pm
Let's go FSU!!!!
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 28, 2009 3:55pm
Florida's Nike creations are terrible. Seriously, who thinks this crap looks good? Especially in comparison to what they wear every week?
(I know they are showcasing and testing new fabrics...) but why can't they make the uniforms look like they always do? Why come up with an extra dooshy design?
(I know they are showcasing and testing new fabrics...) but why can't they make the uniforms look like they always do? Why come up with an extra dooshy design?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 28, 2009 4:19pm
2 things:
I think Florida's Uni's look sweet
After every commercial break they talk about Tebow...it's so pathetic
I think Florida's Uni's look sweet
After every commercial break they talk about Tebow...it's so pathetic
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eersandbeers
Posts: 1,071
Nov 28, 2009 4:28pm
This game just made me realize how much more I'll love college football next year when Tebow is no longer around.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Nov 28, 2009 4:29pm
florida's unis are sweet...the tim tebow dong-sucking marathon isn't, however
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Nov 28, 2009 4:52pm
My how far FSU has fallen
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 28, 2009 4:57pm
thisdazedconfused wrote: florida's unis are sweet...the tim tebow dong-sucking marathon isn't, however
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riggo33
Posts: 24
Nov 28, 2009 5:16pm
1. CBS has a contract with the SEC...so of course they are going to talk about Timmy
2.Florida's Uni's are 10x better than Ohio State's from the Michigan game
2.Florida's Uni's are 10x better than Ohio State's from the Michigan game
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Nov 28, 2009 5:24pm
I really like them.jordo212000 wrote: Florida's Nike creations are terrible. Seriously, who thinks this crap looks good? Especially in comparison to what they wear every week?
(I know they are showcasing and testing new fabrics...) but why can't they make the uniforms look like they always do? Why come up with an extra dooshy design?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 28, 2009 5:26pm
I hate the love affair with Tebow, but the man is putting on a clinic right now.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 28, 2009 5:41pm
Think Florida State is regretting giving Jimbo Fisher that "coach in waiting" contract now?
Their offense has been pitiful for a few years now. No excuse for them to be this bad.
Their offense has been pitiful for a few years now. No excuse for them to be this bad.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 28, 2009 5:45pm
Well I guess we can forget the upset; the SEC is now guaranteed to have one team in the National Title game; Auburn really needed to pull that off yesterday so Bama could beat Florida and Nebraska beat Texas and wreck the BCS... but alas it won't happen...
I'm sick of CBS. Its like a fucking funeral every time they come back from commercial
I'm sick of CBS. Its like a fucking funeral every time they come back from commercial
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One Man Gang
Posts: 45
Nov 28, 2009 5:49pm
Tebow is putting on a pretty good show today.
Was there really any need for the fuck darby?
Was there really any need for the fuck darby?
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 28, 2009 5:51pm
yeah. I'm just a wee bit irritated. That's why I turned the channel but still getting it shoved down my throat with live lookins from ESPN.