krambman;497495 wrote:After today I still have Robinson #1 (4/4 for 60 yards and 5 carries for 129 yards and 2 TD's). I think Pryor has probably established himself as a firm #2 at this point. My top five looks like this:
1. Denard Robinson
2. Terrell Pryor
3. Andrew Luck
4. Kellen Moore
5. Mark Ingram
Based on his performance Ingram could easily be higher except that he missed the first two games.
If Archie Griffin managed to get handed the heisman after only having 4 tds the second time, I don't see why Ingram couldn't.sleeper;498421 wrote:Denard Robinson obviously is #1, but we all know this is sometimes a team award as well, so unless Michigan plans on going undefeated he won't win it(and they won't beat OSU for sure).
Ingram? Seriously? No. Ingram is a good football player no doubt, but he's already missed 2 games, and let's face it, there will NEVER be another 2 time winner. If Tebow with the media hanging all over his nuts can't do it, no one will, and Ingram isn't THAT good either. Amazing that the people saying Ingram are ND fans, they know almost nothing about college football.
Its 2010 my friend. Things have changed. As an OSU fan I am kinda baffled at Archie winning his 2nd.the_system;498471 wrote:If Archie Griffin managed to get handed the heisman after only having 4 tds the second time, I don't see why Ingram couldn't.
Year Car Yds Avg TD
1974 256 1,695 6.6 12
1975 262 1,450 5.5 4
Automatik;498478 wrote:Its 2010 my friend. Things have changed. As an OSU fan I am kinda baffled at Archie winning his 2nd.
Ingram won't win it this year....no way.
pinstriper;499722 wrote:Numbers are important, but so are "Heisman Moments". If Ingram runs all over FL this week , and South Carolina the next, like he just did against ARK, he'll be on his way. He has Auburn (who will most likely be undefeated also) at the end of the year in the Iron Bowl, then the SEC Championship game. It's not hard to see how he could put together some big games and big time performances against top 10 teams the rest of the year.
Just sayin.
Wouldn't be suprised to see it the other way aroundTrueblue23;499728 wrote:ESPN has a poll on their main page right now:
Which is more likely to happen:
Denard Robinson wins the Heisman
Mike Vick wins NFL MVP
Denard is leading right now.
SportsAndLady;499732 wrote:True. But the Big Ten will be very good this year with plenty of big games for both Robinson and Pryor. Not to mention, the most important time frame for these awards are towards the end of the year, and Robinson will get a chance to beat OSU, which will be one of the bigger wins in Big Ten history (if OSU continues to dominate the Big Ten like it has the past 10 years).
Trueblue23;499713 wrote:What a joke. In the years past, if a player missed one game he was basically disqualified in everyone's eyes.
pinstriper;499755 wrote:Oh, I defenately agree. i was just making a point htat it doesn't have everything to do with numbers, there are intangibles also. Pryor going into that Michigan game against a 1 loss or undefeated Mich team, and dominating would be a huge push for him. This day and age, alot of the voters have access to tons of info, but they also have access to nationally tlevised/hyped up games and "Heisman Moments" shown over and over and over again on ESPN.
Ty Webb;499756 wrote:The Big 10 is very good??
this...If Ingram continues at the pace he's set, he'll be in NYC. I'm not saying he'll win, but IMO he'll get invited.krambman;499797 wrote:Yeah, think about Dennis Dixon a few years ago. Everyone pretty much agreed that it was his to lose, then he got hurt and wasn't even invited to New York. I think it's the fact that his injury was at the beginning of the season so he has plenty of time to make up for missing two games. And he's looked fantastic (better than last year) in those two games since his return.