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Sep 12, 2010 11:43 PM
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Sep 12, 2010 11:43pm
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Sep 12, 2010 11:44 PM
lmao.....holy shit. I'm laughing hard.
Sep 12, 2010 11:44pm
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Sep 12, 2010 11:45 PM
Well now i definitely have to watch this play..more than likely he is full of shit and wrong though lol.
Sep 12, 2010 11:45pm
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Sep 12, 2010 11:47 PM
Wow that was hilarious
Sep 12, 2010 11:47pm
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Sep 12, 2010 11:47 PM
THey did get royally shafted with that call....but holy shit thats funny
Sep 12, 2010 11:47pm
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Sep 12, 2010 11:47 PM
CinciX12;481961 wrote:Well now i definitely have to watch this play..more than likely he is full of shit and wrong though lol.


By rule it was correct, but the rule is horrible. I haven't seen one "expert" agree with it.
Sep 12, 2010 11:47pm
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Sep 12, 2010 11:51 PM
I stand corrected..he caught it. Damn what a catch too.
Sep 12, 2010 11:51pm
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Sep 13, 2010 12:01 AM
The call was right. The rule is dumb. Even the Lions coach said the call was correct.
Sep 13, 2010 12:01am
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Sep 13, 2010 12:02 AM
So let me see if I understand this. It doesn't matter his knee hit the ground, it matters that he couldn't keep possession when hitting the ground?
Sep 13, 2010 12:02am
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Sep 13, 2010 12:17 AM
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Sep 13, 2010 12:17am
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Sep 13, 2010 12:37 AM
CinciX12;481991 wrote:So let me see if I understand this. It doesn't matter his knee hit the ground, it matters that he couldn't keep possession when hitting the ground?

Basically. For a touchdown all that needs to happen is the very tip of the football to cross the very tip of the line. That's it. No body part is required, just the ball. So in which case, how he lands means nothing when catching the ball in the endzone(assume not out of bounds). He has to maintain control the entire time INCLUDING when he makes contact with the ground. Kinda the opposite of the fumble rule where "the ground cannot cause a fumble." The ground can cause an incomplete pass.

Now, in this case I really thought he caught the ball had possession. I thought it should have been a TD, but the rule is what it is, for now at least.
Sep 13, 2010 12:37am
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Sep 13, 2010 12:39 AM
CinciX12;481991 wrote:So let me see if I understand this. It doesn't matter his knee hit the ground, it matters that he couldn't keep possession when hitting the ground?

Not sure on the exact wording of the rule. From what the commentators said as it was happening (and they had an ex NFL rules interpreter give his opinion too), it was incomplete because his entire movement was considered one move. I think the word they used was "process." If he had made that catch at the 1 yard line, fell like he did and then reached the ball across the goal line or at least tried to and then the ball came out it would have been ruled complete. Johnson didn't make any other football move (which is odd because he was playing football) and the loss of control was ruled the same act as the catch.
Sep 13, 2010 12:39am
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Sep 13, 2010 12:40 AM
Meanwhile, in college football you can apparently drop the ball before crossing the goalline and its still a touchdown, as was proven twice this weekend.
Sep 13, 2010 12:40am
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Sep 13, 2010 1:05 AM
karen lotz;482035 wrote:Not sure on the exact wording of the rule. From what the commentators said as it was happening (and they had an ex NFL rules interpreter give his opinion too), it was incomplete because his entire movement was considered one move. I think the word they used was "process." If he had made that catch at the 1 yard line, fell like he did and then reached the ball across the goal line or at least tried to and then the ball came out it would have been ruled complete. Johnson didn't make any other football move (which is odd because he was playing football) and the loss of control was ruled the same act as the catch.

Ah, so it's the same retarded "football move" rule that kept the Colts in the game against the Steelers a few years back in the playoffs after it was invoked to take away a Polamalu interception. That's a rule as inexplicably stupid as those wacky obscure town/state laws that get brought up for a laugh from time to time.
Sep 13, 2010 1:05am
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Sep 13, 2010 1:53 AM
I think it is a good rule. Basically the ground cannot cause a fumble, but it can cause an incompletion.
Sep 13, 2010 1:53am
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Sep 13, 2010 1:57 AM
mhs95_06;482117 wrote:I think it is a good rule. Basically the ground cannot cause a fumble, but it can cause an incompletion.
I think it's bad because it's inconsistent... the effect that the ground has on the play is dependent upon the method in which the ball is given to the player. That's beyond retarded.
Sep 13, 2010 1:57am
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Sep 13, 2010 7:25 AM
Foot down. Foot down. Knee down. It's beyond ridiculous that it wasn't a touchdown. What a moronic rule.
Sep 13, 2010 7:25am
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Sep 13, 2010 8:08 AM
Dumb rule. What i want to know is why didnt megatron just take the ball to his body after making the catch, that is what makes the least sense to me of everything.
Sep 13, 2010 8:08am
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Sep 13, 2010 8:45 AM
pnhasbeen;482033 wrote:Basically. For a touchdown all that needs to happen is the very tip of the football to cross the very tip of the line. That's it. No body part is required, just the ball. So in which case, how he lands means nothing when catching the ball in the endzone(assume not out of bounds). He has to maintain control the entire time INCLUDING when he makes contact with the ground. Kinda the opposite of the fumble rule where "the ground cannot cause a fumble." The ground can cause an incomplete pass.

Now, in this case I really thought he caught the ball had possession. I thought it should have been a TD, but the rule is what it is, for now at least.

You need to read up on the new rule. Last year this would have been a touchdown. This year, it is not. I don't agree with the rule, but the call was correct based on the new rule.

I'm a Bears fan and I think it's bullshit.
Sep 13, 2010 8:45am
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Sep 13, 2010 12:17 PM
justincredible;482139 wrote:Foot down. Foot down. Knee down. It's beyond ridiculous that it wasn't a touchdown. What a moronic rule.

EXACTLY
Sep 13, 2010 12:17pm
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Sep 13, 2010 12:21 PM
EXACTLY #2.

Screwed me out of much needed fantasy points too haha.
Sep 13, 2010 12:21pm
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Sep 13, 2010 6:52 PM
Um, the ground cannot force a fumble right? So what happens when someone catches a ball, puts two feet on the ground, and runs out of the side or back of the endzone? It is always ruled a touchdown regardless of what happens after he leaves the plane! What a fucking ridiculous rule, this is.
Sep 13, 2010 6:52pm
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Sep 13, 2010 9:18 PM
What if a receiver catches the ball crossing from left to right in the end zone...and runs 4 or 5 steps with the ball in the end zone, trips, and the ball comes out when he hits the ground?
Sep 13, 2010 9:18pm
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Sep 13, 2010 9:39 PM
If he takes 4 or 5 steps it would be considered a football move and a touchdown.
Sep 13, 2010 9:39pm