CinciX12;481961 wrote:Well now i definitely have to watch this play..more than likely he is full of shit and wrong though lol.
CinciX12;481991 wrote:So let me see if I understand this. It doesn't matter his knee hit the ground, it matters that he couldn't keep possession when hitting the ground?
CinciX12;481991 wrote:So let me see if I understand this. It doesn't matter his knee hit the ground, it matters that he couldn't keep possession when hitting the ground?
karen lotz;482035 wrote:Not sure on the exact wording of the rule. From what the commentators said as it was happening (and they had an ex NFL rules interpreter give his opinion too), it was incomplete because his entire movement was considered one move. I think the word they used was "process." If he had made that catch at the 1 yard line, fell like he did and then reached the ball across the goal line or at least tried to and then the ball came out it would have been ruled complete. Johnson didn't make any other football move (which is odd because he was playing football) and the loss of control was ruled the same act as the catch.
I think it's bad because it's inconsistent... the effect that the ground has on the play is dependent upon the method in which the ball is given to the player. That's beyond retarded.mhs95_06;482117 wrote:I think it is a good rule. Basically the ground cannot cause a fumble, but it can cause an incompletion.
pnhasbeen;482033 wrote:Basically. For a touchdown all that needs to happen is the very tip of the football to cross the very tip of the line. That's it. No body part is required, just the ball. So in which case, how he lands means nothing when catching the ball in the endzone(assume not out of bounds). He has to maintain control the entire time INCLUDING when he makes contact with the ground. Kinda the opposite of the fumble rule where "the ground cannot cause a fumble." The ground can cause an incomplete pass.
Now, in this case I really thought he caught the ball had possession. I thought it should have been a TD, but the rule is what it is, for now at least.
justincredible;482139 wrote:Foot down. Foot down. Knee down. It's beyond ridiculous that it wasn't a touchdown. What a moronic rule.
