dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Sep 13, 2010 12:13am
CinciX12;482003 wrote:Superiority. Make the OU kids cry.
They should be already. I mean shit, they lost to Toledo.
CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Sep 13, 2010 12:18am
dwccrew;482006 wrote:They should be already. I mean shit, they lost to Toledo.
Twist the knife a little deeper then.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Sep 13, 2010 12:21am
The missed tackles are letting the runs start to break, but there is a problem with the coverage scheme after that. 3 kick returns for TDs in 2 games goes beyond the players out there (and even worse going back into last season)dwccrew;481978 wrote:Not that I disagree with your assessment, but on the punt return for TD in the Miami game they just overpursued.
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karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Sep 13, 2010 12:24am
I agree OSU needs to really shore up its blocked field goal coverage team. That was pathetic, everyone was in the middle of the field leaving the sideline wide open.LJ;482014 wrote:The missed tackles are letting the runs start to break, but there is a problem with the coverage scheme after that. 3 kick returns for TDs in 2 games goes beyond the players out there (and even worse going back into last season)
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Sep 13, 2010 12:25am
LJ;482014 wrote:The missed tackles are letting the runs start to break, but there is a problem with the coverage scheme after that. 3 kick returns for TDs in 2 games goes beyond the players out there (and even worse going back into last season)
In all fairness, it was two kick returns. The Marshall game was a blocked FG attempt returned for td.
I agree with the coverage schemes though.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Sep 13, 2010 12:29am
You're right. I was seeing the Iowa return td in my head when I typed that, but still, going back 4 games that's three tds and multiple long returns. Something is being exploited that the osu staff isn't seeingdwccrew;482021 wrote:In all fairness, it was two kick returns. The Marshall game was a blocked FG attempt returned for td.
I agree with the coverage schemes though.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Sep 13, 2010 12:32am
LJ;482024 wrote:You're right. I was seeing the Iowa return td in my head when I typed that, but still, going back 4 games that's three tds and multiple long returns. Something is being exploited that the osu staff isn't seeing
Agreed, they really need to figure it out and get it fixed. I think the next couple of games will be a good time to work on it.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Sep 13, 2010 4:42am
dwccrew;482027 wrote:Agreed, they really need to figure it out and get it fixed. I think the next couple of games will be a good time to work on it.
No question about it.
OSU has too many talented athletes on the bench to NOT be able to figure out how to fix this glaring issue on special teams. The Buckeyes dodged a bullet because the special teams cannot continue to play like this against superior teams like Miami and hope to play for a national title. I've been mystified by it the last couple of games.
I have a lot of respect for Tressel and his coaching staff but there always seems to a chink in the armor...and it's usually special teams.
I was a hard core Buckeye fan long before I became an Ohio alum. If the Bobcats need to be the sacrificial lamb to get these issues corrected then so be it!
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 13, 2010 11:24am
The chink in the armor is the fact Tress doesn't have a designated special teams coach...he may want to start to re-analyze that decision.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Sep 13, 2010 11:37am
Pick6;481993 wrote:Definitely agree...well problems in just about every aspect of special teams. I would like to see us have some type of pass rush on D as well
Not sure what game you were watching, but our pass rush was pretty solid on Saturday. There were a couple times where Williams just blew by the OL of Miami to force Harris to throw early.
Plus, I love the fact that two of our DL players had INT's in the game.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Sep 13, 2010 11:38am
OSU needs to continue to look for the deep ball. The Buckeyes hit Posey perfectly for 62 yards against Miami and then never went back to the long ball.
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vball10set
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Sep 13, 2010 12:47pm
I disagree--IMO the problem is on our special teams coverage, not ball receive...we put the offense in pretty good field position most of the game, almost taking two to the house.Pick6;481993 wrote:...well problems in just about every aspect of special teams.
Tiger2003
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Sep 13, 2010 5:41pm
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Sep 13, 2010 8:37pm
devil1197;482270 wrote:OSU needs to continue to look for the deep ball. The Buckeyes hit Posey perfectly for 62 yards against Miami and then never went back to the long ball.
This
I agree. Coverage is where the problem lies, return team seems to be good. They put the offense in good positions, they just need to work on that redzone playcalling, it is still god awful. I know that Tressel understand you can't win a national championship on field goals, when you have 4 drives with field position starting within the opponent's 30 yard line, you punch those in!vball10set;482352 wrote:I disagree--IMO the problem is on our special teams coverage, not ball receive...we put the offense in pretty good field position most of the game, almost taking two to the house.
We must remember that this is the second game of the season and any wrinkles will get worked out. Here's to Tressel fixing the problems we have and a great season.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Sep 13, 2010 8:48pm
dwccrew;482851 wrote:This
I agree. Coverage is where the problem lies, return team seems to be good. They put the offense in good positions, they just need to work on that redzone playcalling, it is still god awful. I know that Tressel understand you can't win a national championship on field goals, when you have 4 drives with field position starting within the opponent's 30 yard line, you punch those in!
We must remember that this is the second game of the season and any wrinkles will get worked out. Here's to Tressel fixing the problems we have and a great season.
I don't see the redzone issues being worked out. That is a typical OSU issue for the past few seasons at the very least.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Sep 13, 2010 8:53pm
LJ;482889 wrote:I don't see the redzone issues being worked out. That is a typical OSU issue for the past few seasons at the very least.
You are right it has been an issue, but I guess I am hoping that since Pryor is in his third year as a starter, we could possibly do something about our redzone issues. Maybe it is just wishful thinking as a fan.
LJ
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Sep 13, 2010 8:56pm
dwccrew;482905 wrote:You are right it has been an issue, but I guess I am hoping that since Pryor is in his third year as a starter, we could possibly do something about our redzone issues. Maybe it is just wishful thinking as a fan.
It's the playcalling. I honestly think it is an extreme weakness of tressel is redzone playcalling.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Sep 13, 2010 8:57pm
LJ;482908 wrote:It's the playcalling. I honestly think it is an extreme weakness of tressel is redzone playcalling.
Definitely the playcalling, I am hoping he starts putting more confidence in Pryor, like he did Troy Smith, and start calling different plays in the redzone. To me, it seems he is still lacking confidence in Pryor's ability in the redzone.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Sep 13, 2010 11:24pm
dwccrew;482913 wrote:Definitely the playcalling, I am hoping he starts putting more confidence in Pryor, like he did Troy Smith, and start calling different plays in the redzone. To me, it seems he is still lacking confidence in Pryor's ability in the redzone.
Probably has something to do with his inability to complete a pass under 10 yards.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Sep 14, 2010 12:50am
28-6 Ohio State
Not being a hater.....but I just have a feeling that the offense and Pryor expecially will struggle. Don't ask me why...but I just have a feeling for some reason
Not being a hater.....but I just have a feeling that the offense and Pryor expecially will struggle. Don't ask me why...but I just have a feeling for some reason
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 14, 2010 8:22am
stop right there,'cause everyone knows what you are, so please--go awayTy Webb;483379 wrote:28-6 Ohio State
Not being a hater.....
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Swamp Fox
Posts: 2,218
Sep 14, 2010 8:39am
Ohio State will win. It won't be an astronomical score differential. Ohio State will work on some things that need attention and everyone will hope that no injuries occur to either team that will keep players out of the next game. Coach Tressel will not run up the score. He doesn't need to. He wouldn't anyway.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Sep 14, 2010 10:40am
It will be around 42-7......Ohio State will score on some big plays....and wouldnt be surprised to see Berry or Hall take one to the house...
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Sep 14, 2010 12:10pm
Looks like C.J. Barnett is probably out for the season according to Tressel at his weekly press conference, He's having knee surgery today
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 14, 2010 1:27pm
not relevant to the topic, but this is pretty funny (sorry, Trueblue) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Kz6Rw99Kk&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Kz6Rw99Kk&feature=player_embedded