What teams are BCS eligible that just don't deserve to be.

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Sep 3, 2010 12:25 AM
Kind of like when the Big East kicked Temple out. I am looking for teams that are just really, really bad. For example, South Carolina has never won the SEC, but they at least have decent seasons every once in a while. Also, while duke is horrible, they actually have 7 conference titles in football, so they can slide by ion my book for now. Also considered Rutgers, but they had a pretty good year a short while back, so they can slide through as well.

Iowa State
Baylor
Vanderbilt (last conference title was with the now 1-AA SoCon in 1923)

Perhaps Indiana (hasn't won even a share of the Big 10 since 1967)

Others?
Sep 3, 2010 12:25am
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Sep 3, 2010 9:14 AM
With the new division alignment in the Big 10 Indiana will never when more than three games in the big 10.
Sep 3, 2010 9:14am
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Sep 3, 2010 9:20 AM
Emmett Brown;470263 wrote:With the new division alignment in the Big 10 Indiana will never when more than three games in the big 10.

Hmm
Sep 3, 2010 9:20am
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Sep 3, 2010 10:17 AM
Notre Dame.
Sep 3, 2010 10:17am
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Sep 3, 2010 10:27 AM
The whole Big East Conference. What a joke top to bottom (in football)
Sep 3, 2010 10:27am
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Sep 3, 2010 10:28 AM
The ND bashing is getting pretty played out



I'd say Iowa State definitely, Vandy, Baylor, Indiana, maybe Maryland
Sep 3, 2010 10:28am
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Sep 3, 2010 10:28 AM
justcompete;470319 wrote:The whole Big East Conference. What a joke top to bottom (in football)

Site some sort of fact to back up your arguments....
Sep 3, 2010 10:28am
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Sep 3, 2010 10:29 AM
goosebumps;470320 wrote:The ND bashing is getting pretty played out

It was a joke. I thought I'd say it before half the site does.
Sep 3, 2010 10:29am
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Sep 3, 2010 10:33 AM
Gotcha, I'm not even a ND fan, but Sleeper and Tiernan are a bit out of control lol
Sep 3, 2010 10:33am
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Sep 3, 2010 10:34 AM
Right.

However, there is a case to be made for them not deserving to be eligible.
Sep 3, 2010 10:34am
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Sep 3, 2010 10:35 AM
The case could be made, but there are several others that would have to go first
Sep 3, 2010 10:35am
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Sep 3, 2010 10:41 AM
With it's current lineup, the Big East is the second winningest conference in their OOC games behind the SEC. The Big East was a combined 158-61 in nonleague games for its first five seasons, for a winning percentage of .722? The Big East is also 3-2 in BCS games during that same time.

As to who doesn't deserve to be BCS eligible, I think every team that currently is deserves to be. Somebody has to be the team on the bottom. Besides, teams are just a coaching change away from being at the top or being at the bottom (see Michigan, Louisville, Nebraska).
Sep 3, 2010 10:41am
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Sep 3, 2010 10:46 AM
colorado, washington state, Pitt.

the first 2 i think are self explanatory.

Hear me out on Pitt - they've never been able to make the leap. needed to win one of the last 2 games last year to really have a chance at the BCS, and blew it. Seems like every year they come up short when it matters most. It's the same argument i make for ND not deserving to be an automatic qualifier, no one cares about Pop Warner and Knute Rockne anymore, the relevancy of Pitt (and maybe ND, but cetainly not as bad as Pitt) has definitely passed it's shelf life.
Sep 3, 2010 10:46am
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Sep 3, 2010 10:50 AM
IMO, no one cares about Woody Hayes.
Sep 3, 2010 10:50am
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Sep 3, 2010 11:03 AM
I see what you're doing here--nice bait for sleeper and tiernan :cool:
Sep 3, 2010 11:03am
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Sep 3, 2010 11:04 AM
Duke
Indiana
Iowa State
Vanderbilt
Sep 3, 2010 11:04am
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Sep 3, 2010 11:07 AM
vball10set;470378 wrote:^^^LOL--are you trying to draw sleeper and tiernan out ??


Nope, just saying that if Warner and Rockne, who were both pretty innovative coaches, aren't to be cared about, neither is Hayes.
Sep 3, 2010 11:07am
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Sep 3, 2010 11:08 AM
Hell, this thread title enough is plenty to draw those two out.
Sep 3, 2010 11:08am
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Sep 3, 2010 11:10 AM
What's the criteria for teams loosing their BCS eligibility?

Having a set number of losing seasons?
No fan interest?
No history?
Some history but not much in the past 20 years? (ie. Pitt, Minnesota, Duke, Washington*)

*UW did win the national title in 1991 but after the end of the Don James era has been mediocre. See my previous comment about teams being a coaching hire away from going from the top to the borrom or vice versa.
Sep 3, 2010 11:10am
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Sep 3, 2010 11:27 AM
karen lotz;470385 wrote:Nope, just saying that if Warner and Rockne, who were both pretty innovative coaches, aren't to be cared about, neither is Hayes.
I got ya'--I didn't read j_crazy's entire post.
Sep 3, 2010 11:27am
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Sep 3, 2010 11:31 AM
karen lotz;470356 wrote:IMO, no one cares about Woody Hayes.
valid point, but OSU has had success after him. ND has had limited success since Rockne (and as i stressed before that success has not come in the BCS era) and Pitt has had almost no national success since Pop Warner.

I wasn't in any way trying to devalue either coach, i'm just trying to make my argument that you can't be an automatic qualifier now because you had a historic/iconic coach 60 years ago who led that school to great success. I just think you need to earn it in the here and now.

Also the point is moot because Pitt is in a BCS conferences and even though i don't really care about ND, they schedule enough BCS teams that they should be automatic qualifiers if their record warrants it. I was just singling Pitt out because they always seem to stumble and find a way to not get over that hump.
Sep 3, 2010 11:31am
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Sep 3, 2010 11:40 AM
j_crazy;470414 wrote:valid point, but OSU has had success after him. ND has had limited success since Rockne (and as i stressed before that success has not come in the BCS era) and Pitt has had almost no national success since Pop Warner.

Rockne died in 1931. Since then ND has had "limited success"??
Sep 3, 2010 11:40am
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Sep 3, 2010 12:02 PM
you know what i mean. they haven't been the same national powerhouse year in and year out since parsghian.
Sep 3, 2010 12:02pm
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Sep 3, 2010 12:07 PM
j_crazy;470457 wrote:you know what i mean. they haven't been the same national powerhouse year in and year out since Parseghian.
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Sep 3, 2010 12:07pm
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Sep 3, 2010 12:09 PM
also, i know it probably won't happen, but if BYU ever achieves a BCS exemption while playing independent, they don't deserve it (unless something drastically changes with their schedule).
Sep 3, 2010 12:09pm