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dave

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Sep 1, 2010 2:17 PM
do walks count or do they have to be official AB's?
Sep 1, 2010 2:17pm
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Sep 1, 2010 2:21 PM
502 plate appearances are needed to qualify so walks, HBP, sacrifices do count towards that total. At the end of the year, if he is short of 502, the difference will be added to his Official At Bat total and that would be his "adjusted" batting average as far as the batting title would be concerned.
Sep 1, 2010 2:21pm
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Sep 1, 2010 9:33 PM
the 502 would be less or more depending on if the Braves miss a game and need not make it up or if they have to play an extra game for playoff purposes.

I believe it's 3.1 plate appearances per team game
Sep 1, 2010 9:33pm
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dave

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Sep 1, 2010 9:47 PM
Omar up to .346, barring injury he's going to win it.
Sep 1, 2010 9:47pm
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Sep 1, 2010 10:16 PM
still a long way to go
Sep 1, 2010 10:16pm
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Sep 1, 2010 10:21 PM
karen lotz;468279 wrote:502 plate appearances are needed to qualify so walks, HBP, sacrifices do count towards that total. At the end of the year, if he is short of 502, the difference will be added to his Official At Bat total and that would be his "adjusted" batting average as far as the batting title would be concerned.

Wouldn't that be an 0/10 or 0/12 whatever it might be?? That would hurt his average pretty good.
Sep 1, 2010 10:21pm
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Sep 1, 2010 10:24 PM
wildcats20;468921 wrote:Wouldn't that be an 0/10 or 0/12 whatever it might be?? That would hurt his average pretty good.
Yes. before tonight's game if you add 0 for 12 he would have dropped to .329. I am going to figure out what it will be with his 3 for 4 tonight...







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Sep 1, 2010 10:24pm
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Sep 1, 2010 10:29 PM
My math could be wrong due to some drinking during/after golf league but after tonights 3/4 game and assuming he plays every game from the leadoff spot with no perfect games thrown against the Braves (assuring 4 plate appearances a game): If you add the extra 0 for 12 as of tonight his average drops to .334. I made an excel sheet earlier today (read: SOBER) and you just plug in plate appearances, at bats and hits and it gives the adjusted average.
Sep 1, 2010 10:29pm
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Sep 1, 2010 10:31 PM
I still don't agree with it. You either qualify or you don't.

Either way, he's hitting the hell out of the ball.
Sep 1, 2010 10:31pm
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dave

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Sep 1, 2010 10:35 PM
Is that assuming he keeps hitting at his current average for the rest of the season? I think he'll finish around .325-.330 but I don't see Cargo or Votto being that high.
Sep 1, 2010 10:35pm
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Sep 1, 2010 10:36 PM
But if you go by his average and add 12 at bats you should add about 4 hits too so by that logic he would be at .345 right now. I do agree with the second part of your post. I assumed he would fall off a little bit once he started playing everyday, but he has raised his average quite a bit and is really on a tear right now.
Sep 1, 2010 10:36pm
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Sep 1, 2010 10:41 PM
dave;468944 wrote:Is that assuming he keeps hitting at his current average for the rest of the season? I think he'll finish around .325-.330 but I don't see Cargo or Votto being that high.
Kind of.

There are 29 team games left. Like I said, I assumed he would play every game from the leadoff spot without a perfect game thrown. That would guarantee him 4 plate appearances a game. 29*4 = 116. Add those 116 plate appearances to the 374 he already has you get 490. Subtract 490 from 502 and that gives you 12 at bats you have to add into his current at bats without any hits. Right now he has 121 hits in 350 at bats. So 121/362 = .334. Of course this also assumes that the team doesn't flip the line up over during any of the games where he could get 5 or 6 plate appearances either.
Sep 1, 2010 10:41pm
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Sep 4, 2010 11:39 AM
Are you guys saying if he was 0-12 by means of HBP, walks and sac flies???????? Those don't count as at bats towards your batting average....just count as the plate appearances.
Surely I was just reading it wrong.
Sep 4, 2010 11:39am
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Sep 4, 2010 11:40 AM
and if he bats leadoff every game he'll get 5 as often as he gets 4...so you could add another 12-15
Sep 4, 2010 11:40am
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Sep 4, 2010 11:43 AM
oh.....and btw about alst Tuesday I was scrolling through the stats and CarGo is all over both Pujols and Votto......and his team is warming up....the triple crown race by be a triple group going down to the final game and AB.....and it opens up the MVP race a touch if things swing as they can over the next 25 days.
Sep 4, 2010 11:43am
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Sep 4, 2010 11:56 AM
Ironman92;471411 wrote:Are you guys saying if he was 0-12 by means of HBP, walks and sac flies???????? Those don't count as at bats towards your batting average....just count as the plate appearances.
Surely I was just reading it wrong.


For the batting title purpose only, the difference between 502 Plate appearances needed to qualify (or 3.1 per team game) and his actual PA's is added to his official at bats. This new number of at bats is used to compute his batting average for the batting title. I added it up last night but I don't have it in front of me, but he got 5 PA's last night so you only have to add an extra 11 at bats as of right now (using my assumptions). His adjusted average for the batting title would be .331 if the season was over right now.
Sep 4, 2010 11:56am
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Sep 4, 2010 11:58 AM
He is at 383 PA with 27 games left

27 X 4 = 108 + 383 = 491

If he leads off every game the rest of the way he'll get 5 PA in at least 8 of those games.....putting him at 499.....but I'd bet he'd get 5 PA in 10-12 of those games...putting him over 502

The MAIN problem IMO will be staying good enough with no rest to keep his average above CarGo, Votto, Castro, Pujols.....etc
Sep 4, 2010 11:58am
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Sep 4, 2010 11:59 AM
Ironman92;471414 wrote:and if he bats leadoff every game he'll get 5 as often as he gets 4...so you could add another 12-15

Since I started tracking it, he has had 5 plate appearances 1 time which was during last nights 0-4 game.................................................not a good time for the offense to go silent.
Sep 4, 2010 11:59am
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Sep 4, 2010 12:02 PM
Ironman92;471429 wrote:The MAIN problem IMO will be staying good enough with no rest to keep his average above CarGo, Votto, Castro, Pujols.....etc
Yep. I agree. He hasn't showed many signs of slowing down but you'd think it would catch up to him soon enough. I think if he can hit .333 the rest of the year he should be able to keep his average high enough. He just needs to mix in a few 2-4 or 3-4 games to offset his 0-3s and 0-4s and he will be fine.
Sep 4, 2010 12:02pm
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Sep 4, 2010 12:08 PM
The Braves have 3 off days left in the season so he should be able to get enough rest. There next one is the 16th so he may need one day off between now and then but he should be able to make up those atbats.
Sep 4, 2010 12:08pm
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Sep 5, 2010 10:35 PM
He's had 5 or more each of the last 2 days...DAMN I"M GOOD

anyways...he's at .342 and CarGo is getting better and better and better and is up to .337

Heck with the triple crown...Pujols and Votto better play well the last 2 or they won't have a triple crown or an MVP
Sep 5, 2010 10:35pm
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Sep 6, 2010 10:06 PM
The Reds hopefully won't have CarGo in MVP lead after this series.
Sep 6, 2010 10:06pm
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Sep 6, 2010 10:54 PM
It isn't looking good for it to happen.

CarGo is now ahead of Infante .340 to .339 and he is 1 RBI behind Votto....but 4 Hr back of Pujols, 3 to Dunn....mix in Reynolds, Fielder

As for Pujols or Votto....too far back in batting avg....but there is still time...but Gonzalez seems to be getting better...he's over .390 in the 2nd half
Sep 6, 2010 10:54pm