Nothing wrong with spanking your children if it is done right. My kids are all teenagers now so I no longer use it as a form of discipline.

steel valley, I have 3 children that spanking is a last resort but one that I do use. It comes with a lecture of why they received the spanking just like when I put them in time out they get the lecture of why they are being punished. Dont label those of us who chose to use a form of punishment that we, my wife and I find fit for our children, just like I wont label you a pansy pushover who lets their kids walk all over them kind of person, J/K of course.

So because I don't have kids my opinion means nothing on the matter?? I told you what I think is acceptable and how I would handle my child if I had one. I have 2 neices that I will punish as I see fit when they are under my control. I don't think my parents ever crossed the line with me and I have a very good thought of my own where that punishment line would be and I wouldn't cross it IF I had kids!

redstreak one;423688 wrote:steel valley, I have 3 children that spanking is a last resort but one that I do use. It comes with a lecture of why they received the spanking just like when I put them in time out they get the lecture of why they are being punished. Dont label those of us who chose to use a form of punishment that we, my wife and I find fit for our children, just like I wont label you a pansy pushover who lets their kids walk all over them kind of person, J/K of course.

+1. Steel Valley, this is my answer as well.

I think a person can both spank their child and not bruise them. As noted above, nothing wrong if done right.

Redstreak and Little Danny...did you guys not see me post this? Because you are both posting as if I'm crying out against corporal punishment, which I'm not - I'm against bruising a defenseless child with a belt.

Steel Valley Football;423285 wrote:This is child abuse. Anyone who beats a defenseless child like that with a belt has mental issues. There are other methods that can involve spanking, but not abuse like that. Let me take a belt to that father and see how he likes it. I'd fucking piss on him while I was at it.

But Little Danny...you say well maybe he just bruises easily. Fuck that. You also never answered my question - do you hit your own kids?

SVF,

Your question is loaded and ambiguous. I think I have given my answer above.

Little Danny;423744 wrote:SVF,

Your question is loaded and ambiguous. I think I have given my answer above.

No, you agreed with someone else's answer. I think your answer about the bruises is pretty fucked up. I think the U.S. court system agrees.

That's all I disagree with tho. I think we're on the same page about other stuff, even tho I think you've got a chip on your shoulder about women. Why are you sure this woman is lying? You only read an article for pete's sake.

SVF,

You are right nobody knows the truth of this matter at this time. Like most things shown in various forms of media, we take the information given and form an opinion. You are right, maybe the father crossed the line and beat the kid to a pulp. Maybe the mom is looking out for her kid. Or, maybe I am right and the father simply spanked the child for talking back to him and the mom has an agenda. I imagine the truth probably lies somewhere in between. Only the triers of all the facts will know the real answer.

As far as me having a chip on my shoulder about women, that's pretty out there. I admit I have my own personal life experiences that could make for a best seller, but it is not why I think the way I do. Ask my wife, she'll tell you how nice of a guy I am and what I deal with. I think my jaded opinion of society as a whole comes the fact I work in a profession where I see the best and worst of people regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, religious beliefs, economic status or what have you.

Little Danny;423758 wrote:SVF,

You are right nobody knows the truth of this matter at this time. Like most things shown in various forms of media, we take the information given and form an opinion. You are right, maybe the father crossed the line and beat the kid to a pulp. Maybe the mom is looking out for her kid. Or, maybe I am right and the father simply spanked the child for talking back to him and the mom has an agenda. I imagine the truth probably lies somewhere in between. Only the triers of all the facts will know the real answer.

As far as me having a chip on my shoulder about women, that's pretty out there. I admit I have my own personal life experiences that could make for a best seller, but it is not why I think the way I do. Ask my wife, she'll tell you how nice of a guy I am and what I deal with. I think my jaded opinion of society as a whole comes the fact I work in a profession where I see the best and worst of people regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, religious beliefs, economic status or what have you.

Ok, fair enough. Good post.

Fab1b;423699 wrote:So because I don't have kids my opinion means nothing on the matter?? I told you what I think is acceptable and how I would handle my child if I had one. I have 2 neices that I will punish as I see fit when they are under my control. I don't think my parents ever crossed the line with me and I have a very good thought of my own where that punishment line would be and I wouldn't cross it IF I had kids!

I really can't say without knowing you and so I shouldn't have implied that. Sorry. But some of your posts make me think it's good you aren't interested in reproducing. Then again, maybe you just post like you do for the shock value. I hope that's the case.

Edit: I should add that most people's perception of how they would raise kids changes once they actually have kids. That's where I was coming from.

SVF- This is a quote from the article cited early in this thread.

Robison said he did hit his son twice on the buttocks with a belt after his son talked back to him several times while they were outside playing hopscotch. He said he gave his son a couple of warnings, but the boy did not stop. That’s when he took him inside to discipline him, he said.

“I gave him two hits, he cried, we went back outside, finished the activity we were doing, and he was fine the rest of the night,” Robison said. “He was never injured, and never complained of pain.

“It was about him talking back,” he said. “Not about hopscotch.”

Robison said his son did have a bruise on his leg and a small one on his buttocks from a fall at a local swimming pool prior to the spanking, and those are the bruises he’s accused of inflicting on his son.

After reading your posts, I went back to see what I missed in the report of the incident. I think you should read it again. I can not tell from the written word, who is telling the truth, but I see no place where it says the boy was beaten 20 times with a belt. I disagree with using a belt, but a couple swats on the butt never hurt anyone.

Steel Valley Football;423772 wrote:I really can't say without knowing you and so I shouldn't have implied that. Sorry. But some of your posts make me think it's good you aren't interested in reproducing. Then again, maybe you just post like you do for the shock value. I hope that's the case.

Edit: I should add that most people's perception of how they would raise kids changes once they actually have kids. That's where I was coming from.

Fair enough....for the record the reason why I don't have kids is because my lifestyle doesn't fit for kids. I am too selfish and don't want to change my lifestyle. My girl and I are both in agreement about children, so I think we should be commended for not bringing a child into the world that we are not ready to raise or be responsible for and I wouldn't want to burden anyone else that responsibility through taxes, whatever. However I do love kids, think that I would be an excellant father as my dad was if I decided to have kids. Also some posts are for shock value some are the real deal, I'm just me!!

BuckCreek;423780 wrote:SVF- This is a quote from the article cited early in this thread.

Robison said he did hit his son twice on the buttocks with a belt after his son talked back to him several times while they were outside playing hopscotch. He said he gave his son a couple of warnings, but the boy did not stop. That’s when he took him inside to discipline him, he said.

“I gave him two hits, he cried, we went back outside, finished the activity we were doing, and he was fine the rest of the night,” Robison said. “He was never injured, and never complained of pain.

“It was about him talking back,” he said. “Not about hopscotch.”

Robison said his son did have a bruise on his leg and a small one on his buttocks from a fall at a local swimming pool prior to the spanking, and those are the bruises he’s accused of inflicting on his son.

After reading your posts, I went back to see what I missed in the report of the incident. I think you should read it again. I can not tell from the written word, who is telling the truth, but I see no place where it says the boy was beaten 20 times with a belt. I disagree with using a belt, but a couple swats on the butt never hurt anyone.

I think you need to go back and read MY posts. Where did I say he was hit 20 times? Where did I say you couldn't swat(spank)? Look closely then get back to me.

Fab1b;423792 wrote:Fair enough....for the record the reason why I don't have kids is because my lifestyle doesn't fit for kids. I am too selfish and don't want to change my lifestyle. My girl and I are both in agreement about children, so I think we should be commended for not bringing a child into the world that we are not ready to raise or be responsible for and I wouldn't want to burden anyone else that responsibility through taxes, whatever. However I do love kids, think that I would be an excellant father as my dad was if I decided to have kids. Also some posts are for shock value some are the real deal, I'm just me!!

Commended for doing nothing? Hmmm. J/K I know whatcha mean.