Archive San Francisco Enacts a Soda Ban

majorspark

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Jul 8, 2010 1:40am

I Wear Pants;415078 wrote:If they did it on state/federal property only I'd think it was stupid but have no massive objection to it. They ever think of it on private property and then I'd have a problem.

Lets say Federal/State/Local authorities allowed the 10 commandments to be posted on their respective government's property. Would you have a massive objection to that?

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I Wear Pants

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Jul 8, 2010 1:59am

No.

majorspark

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Jul 8, 2010 2:03am

I Wear Pants;415307 wrote:No.

You pass the "hypocrite" test.

majorspark

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Jul 8, 2010 12:20pm

They are really goin all out in SF. They are considering the first ban on the sale of pets.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/08/MN9L1EAT90.DTL

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I Wear Pants

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Jul 8, 2010 2:14pm

majorspark;415310 wrote:You pass the "hypocrite" test.

I mean, I personally think it's stupid when people bitch about a monument (usually small and no one really pays attention to it) that has the ten commandments or some plaque somewhere in a building that has them on. But I understand why they have to be taken down if someone makes a complaint because they are right legally speaking.

Doesn't mean it still isn't stupid.

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I Wear Pants

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Jul 8, 2010 2:15pm

majorspark;415700 wrote:They are really goin all out in SF. They are considering the first ban on the sale of pets.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/08/MN9L1EAT90.DTL

This I agree with you. 100% idiotic.

CenterBHSFan

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Jul 8, 2010 4:41pm

I Wear Pants;415935 wrote:I mean, I personally think it's stupid when people bitch about a monument (usually small and no one really pays attention to it) that has the ten commandments or some plaque somewhere in a building that has them on. But I understand why they have to be taken down if someone makes a complaint because they are right legally speaking.

Doesn't mean it still isn't stupid.

We (this forum) had this discussion during Christmas, I think. Legally speaking, our government hasn't forced the 10 Commandments on anybody or forced a tax on a state sponsored religion, so I'm not sure how "legally right" that would be.

derek bomar

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Jul 8, 2010 5:01pm

How can you ban a good that isn't illegal to consume?

CenterBHSFan

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Jul 8, 2010 5:23pm

derek bomar;416270 wrote:How can you ban a good that isn't illegal to consume?

The same way the federal government can sue a state for upholding federal law.

A bunch of whacko's.

ptown_trojans_1

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Jul 8, 2010 5:25pm

Bunch of crazies in Northern Cal. If they want to do this, fine. I don't see it passing to state level.

I still like California though, mainly San Diego. I'll be visiting there in a few weeks.

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QuakerOats

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Jul 8, 2010 5:50pm

Incrementalism on one hand; huge government seizures and power grabs on another.

The enemy has infiltrated government, academia, media, and law.

Change we can believe in ......................

Little Danny

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Jul 8, 2010 6:01pm

I go to Napa every year for a business related outing. The scary thing is that people out there actually think Nancy Pelosi is a moderate.

ptown_trojans_1

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Jul 8, 2010 6:26pm

Little Danny;416337 wrote:I go to Napa every year for a business related outing. The scary thing is that people out there actually think Nancy Pelosi is a moderate.

Napa is great. I had a roommate that told me the same thing, that Pelosi was a moderate. I just laughed at him and explained the definition of a moderate and it wasn't Crazy Nancy.

goosebumps

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Jul 8, 2010 7:10pm

So banning Soda due to it potential of contributing to poor health.... by that argument shouldn't they ban butt sex, as it holds the potential to spread HIV and Hepatitis.

believer

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Jul 8, 2010 7:14pm

^^^Butt...butt if they ban butt sex you could go to jail for this!

goosebumps

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Jul 8, 2010 7:15pm

I think I'd do some time for that haha.

Jason Bourne

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Jul 8, 2010 8:21pm

This is amazing. I think the folks of old are rolling in their graves, thinking and remembering the "land of the free". Ahh, the good ol' days.

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I Wear Pants

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Jul 8, 2010 8:39pm

ccrunner609;416480 wrote:If they think that soda is causing obesity...they are stupid.

It isn't simply one food. Soda definitely is a contributing factor to obesity and things like diabetes because some people think it's okay to drink a twelve pack a day. But it's not soda alone or even soda's fault. Stupid people are to blame.

I am okay with them removing soda from places like school lunch rooms and even places where children are often (public pools come to mind). But they shouldn't outright ban them or anything. Just stop selling soda in those places.

believer

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Jul 8, 2010 9:27pm

I Wear Pants;416621 wrote:It isn't simply one food. Soda definitely is a contributing factor to obesity and things like diabetes because some people think it's okay to drink a twelve pack a day. But it's not soda alone or even soda's fault. Stupid people are to blame.

I am okay with them removing soda from places like school lunch rooms and even places where children are often (public pools come to mind). But they shouldn't outright ban them or anything. Just stop selling soda in those places.

Yeah...we wouldn't want parents to have to deal with those choices for their kids. Better let the government do it for us.

tk421

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Jul 8, 2010 10:12pm

Just like the stupid parents suing McDs for having happy meals and making their kids fat. Parents have ZERO responsibility these days when it comes to their kids. It's always someone else's fault.

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I Wear Pants

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Jul 9, 2010 12:58am

believer;416778 wrote:Yeah...we wouldn't want parents to have to deal with those choices for their kids. Better let the government do it for us.

So why ban drugs?

majorspark

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Jul 9, 2010 1:30am

I Wear Pants;417303 wrote:So why ban drugs?

I am not a fan of many of the drug laws currently on the books today. But certain drugs are apples to oranges. Soda pop used in excess will take decades to kill you. Cigarettes used in excess will take decades to kill you. Certain drugs like cocaine and heroin can kill you the first time you use it. We have to be reasonable as a society. We can't legally allow any person to carry and disperse a substance that has the potential to be lethally administered in one dose.

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I Wear Pants

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Jul 9, 2010 1:56am

Weed?

So are we going to ban pain medications, cough syrups, any other number of things that can kill in one dose?

Why is one nanny state policy okay and another not?

majorspark

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Jul 9, 2010 2:15am

I Wear Pants;417403 wrote:Weed?

So are we going to ban pain medications, cough syrups, any other number of things that can kill in one dose?

Why is one nanny state policy okay and another not?

Did you see weed in my list of drugs that can be lethally administered in one dose? I am ok with weed being legal if the respective states and localities allow it. As for powerful pain medications they are currently legal. You just need a professionals approval on dosage and need. And no as a society it would not be responsible for us to allow Joe schmuck on the streets to decide who gets what dosage of powerful painkillers and disperse to them as he see fit.

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I Wear Pants

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Jul 9, 2010 1:18pm

I wasn't trying to say weed was on your list. I wanted to know your opinion of it. Sorry for the confusion.