Reds at Cubs game 2

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dave
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Jul 1, 2010 9:52pm
2:20pm start again.

Arroyo vs Dempster.

Dempster is having another great year but the Reds fared pretty well against him the 1 time they faced him.
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justincredible
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Jul 1, 2010 10:23pm
Redlegs win.
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jordo212000
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Jul 1, 2010 10:51pm
Gotta go with the Reds.

St Louis lost again tonight to another bad team. What's going on with them?
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dave
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Jul 1, 2010 11:04pm
DRH gave up 2 homers in 2/3 of an inning tonight in Louisville.
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jordo212000
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Jul 1, 2010 11:25pm
dave;408506 wrote:DRH gave up 2 homers in 2/3 of an inning tonight in Louisville.

I've never been a fan. Dude should never step foot back into Cincinnati's clubhouse, he is that bad. A left handed specialist who can't get lefties out and can't throw any harder than 84.
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Jul 1, 2010 11:26pm
jordo212000;408481 wrote:Gotta go with the Reds.

St Louis lost again tonight to another bad team. What's going on with them?

Lead is back up to a game in a half now. Put together some wins, paired with the way the Cards are playing; this lead could get to 4-5 games easily.
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Azubuike24
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Jul 1, 2010 11:34pm
Lets not get ahead of ourselves about the lead.

Narveson vs Garcia - Big advantage St. Louis
Parra vs Carpenter - Big advantage St. Louis
Gallardo vs Wainwright - Pretty even

So there is a good chance the Cardinals win 2 of the next 3, so the Reds can't slip up. They must also win 2 of 3 in Chicago. Also, the Cardinals go to Coors next week and they likely MISS Ubaldo Jimenez.
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Jul 1, 2010 11:36pm
I wasn't saying it was going to continue, just noticing that the Dbacks (who fired their manager) and the lowly Brewers have been beating them.
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dave
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Jul 1, 2010 11:38pm
Garcia, Carpenter, and Wainwright are going this weekend so I wouldn't count on a continued slide. I'd be happy going into the break tied with the Cards even with the 1.5 game lead but a few game lead sure would be nice.
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Azubuike24
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Jul 1, 2010 11:45pm
The Brewers and Diamondbacks can hit, but neither can pitch, in-fact, I think outside of the Pirates and Orioles, those two have the worst pitching in MLB. If their pitchers can somehow stay in the game against STL, they can win, because Milwaukee when healthy can really put up runs. In the last 8 games (not counting the 8-0 win over ARI last week), the Cards have scored a total of 20 runs against KC, MIL, TOR and ARI, 4 of the top 8 worst pitching teams in MLB. The amazing thing is, Rasmus, Pujols and Holliday have all been hitting fairly well. However, losing David Freese hurts and Molina, Schumaker, Lopez and Ryan have all stunk big time.

This is where the Reds are better than the Cardinals. You can argue that Pujols, Holliday and Rasmus are comparable thus far to Votto, Rolen and Gomes, but the Reds also have Bruce, Phillips, the catcher combo, and the Cards really only have Ludwick and Freese (who are very comparable to Phillips and Bruce, but not as good). However, from the catcher spot (Hanigan + Hernandez), bench and even Stubbs (run production) has far out-performed what St. Louis has gotten.
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dave
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Jul 1, 2010 11:51pm
Ludwick has also been out.
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Jul 2, 2010 12:09am
Does anyone know where I can find the Reds past records on July 1??
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dave
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Jul 2, 2010 12:19am
no clue, but on baseball reference you can see the record by each month for every year, or the first 81 game record for each year.
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Mooney44Cards
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Jul 2, 2010 12:27am
Azubuike24;408553 wrote:Lets not get ahead of ourselves about the lead.

Narveson vs Garcia - Big advantage St. Louis
Parra vs Carpenter - Big advantage St. Louis
Gallardo vs Wainwright - Pretty even

So there is a good chance the Cardinals win 2 of the next 3, so the Reds can't slip up. They must also win 2 of 3 in Chicago. Also, the Cardinals go to Coors next week and they likely MISS Ubaldo Jimenez.

Not necessarily. Thursday's game against the Cards would be on Ubaldo's regular rest. Question is will they skip someone's start with an off-day Monday.
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Azubuike24
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Jul 2, 2010 8:20am
Given that he's gonna be the all-star starter as well, it may factor into whether they throw him. The Rockies have played well lately and they really have no reason to skip someone in the rotation.
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Mooney44Cards
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Jul 2, 2010 8:59am
The All-Star Game would put him on regular rest as well. So in my mind they HAVE to start Ubaldo on thursday because its either thursday or friday and I'd imagine you'd want to play it safe and keep him on regular rest. BTW that would have him starting against the Reds in the sunday game after the ASG.
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Jul 2, 2010 11:24am
Phillips 4, Cabrera 6, Votto 3, Rolen 5, Gomes 7, Bruce 9, Hernandez 2, Stubbs 8, arroyo RHP
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dave
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Jul 2, 2010 2:00pm
Finally Stubbs in the 8 hole. He should be running every time he's on with less than 2 outs.

Pretty different lineup for the Cubbies

Colvin
Fontenot
Lee
Ramirez
Byrd
Fukudome
Castro
Hill
Dumpster
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dave
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Jul 2, 2010 2:21pm
Wildcats, in 2006 the Reds were 44-36 on July 1. They finished 80-82.
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dave
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Jul 2, 2010 2:31pm
40 straight for Votto.

These hats are ridiculous.
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jordo212000
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Jul 2, 2010 2:36pm
40 straight for Votto.

These hats are ridiculous.
So ugly. Can't they just wear a patch or something?
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dave
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Jul 2, 2010 2:41pm
Well they do hats so they can make money by selling them on mlb.com, but i don't know who buys white hats. I agree though, so ugly.
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dave
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Jul 2, 2010 2:43pm
Ok well Thom says all proceeds go to veterans so that makes it a little better, but still make them look nicer and you will make more money.
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jordo212000
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Jul 2, 2010 2:45pm
Well they do hats so they can make money by selling them on mlb.com, but i don't know who buys white hats. I agree though, so ugly.
I understand why they do it... The cash grab. I have never seen anybody actually wear one those though
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dave
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Jul 2, 2010 2:48pm
Another day of stranding runners, sigh.