Cleveland Cavaliers (current) off-season rumors

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Jul 5, 2010 4:25pm
KR1245;411452 wrote:Z for the minimum? If they used the MLE on Ray they wouldnt have much to work with.

Mo
Allen
LeBron
Bosh

Would be a great foursome, and you'd have Tawn off the bench... However, C is a key position because you have to guard Gasol/Bynum and Howard... Z would not be able to do this at a consistent enough rate to make us a championship team.

This is where the Shaq s&t could come into play, whether it's with Dallas or whoever.. Though, it doesn't sound like Dallas wants to trade Haywood now.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens and how the pieces fall into place.
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Jul 5, 2010 4:32pm
Doubt that roster is going to happen, however if it did, at the very least the cavs could still just keep shaq just for the purpose of stopping dwight.
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Jul 5, 2010 4:37pm
like_that;411472 wrote:Doubt that roster is going to happen, however if it did, at the very least the cavs could still just keep shaq just for the purpose of stopping dwight.

That roster is very possible, more possible than some of the other ideas thrown out the last couple days.

Cleveland has targeted both Allen and Miller at the SG spot with both players holding off to see what the big guys do. I take that as a good possibility that these two will weigh heavily playing with LeBron when he signs with Cleveland.

And as much as the Raptors/Bosh have postured the last two days, the Raptors don't want to go away empty handed and Bosh wants that 6 yr max deal. Toronto is the first call when LeBron signs.
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Jul 5, 2010 4:48pm
Bosh would be an idiot to not do a sign and trade.

He stands to lose a lot more than Wade or LeBron. He's not as good, he's not going to be worth as much in the future, and the added $$$ and security is (in my thinking) too much to pass up.

Same with Joe Johnson. At his age and skill level, it would have been STUPID for him to not sign back with Atlanta. Athletes just don't leave money on the table like that, not when nothing is certain in the future.
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Jul 5, 2010 4:53pm
devil1197;411474 wrote:That roster is very possible, more possible than some of the other ideas thrown out the last couple days.

Cleveland has targeted both Allen and Miller at the SG spot with both players holding off to see what the big guys do. I take that as a good possibility that these two will weigh heavily playing with LeBron when he signs with Cleveland.

And as much as the Raptors/Bosh have postured the last two days, the Raptors don't want to go away empty handed and Bosh wants that 6 yr max deal. Toronto is the first call when LeBron signs.

Its still not 100% LeBron signs. I hope he does, you seem very confident. It just seems like every time there is a possibility to have a roster like that, it never happens for Cleveland. If Lebron says, i still say Bosh's ego gets in the way and will refuse to play in Cleveland because 1. he doesn't like the city apparently, and 2. he doesn't want to be in lebron's shadow. As for Ray Allen, I can't see why he would sign an MLE after his playoffs performance. He was the Celtics mvp imo. He could get a lot more. If it happens, I will be very happy, but I am definitely not getting my hopes up. I just want LeBron to sign first and foremost.
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Jul 5, 2010 5:03pm
Ray Allen was far from the Celtics MVP.. I would say Rondo and it's not even close. Allen had some good games, but he also had some HUGE duds.

I really wish CP3 was a FA, that way we could have s/t for him lol.. No doubt he'd want to come here to play with LBJ and Byron Scott.
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Jul 5, 2010 5:05pm
I stand corrected, Rondo was def the MVP, but Allen had a really good showing in the playoffs in my opinion minus the game he went 0 for 18 or whatever.
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Jul 5, 2010 5:15pm
like_that;411491 wrote: 2. he doesn't want to be in lebron's shadow.

Unless something has changed, didn't Bosh WANT to play with LBJ in either Chicago or Miami? How would he avoid "being in Lebron's shadow" in one of those cities?

I think it's just Bosh wanting to have his cake and eat it too. If LBJ re-signs in Cleveland, he may very well warm up to the idea of plating in Cleveland for a max deal.
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Jul 5, 2010 5:32pm
Sadly, everything you read or hear from Bosh, suggests that money is the only concern. Money first, winning second.
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Jul 5, 2010 5:42pm
He sounds like Larry Hughes
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Jul 5, 2010 5:47pm
Is there going to be any centers available out there for the MLE?
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Jul 5, 2010 5:51pm
wes_mantooth;411550 wrote:Is there going to be any centers available out there for the MLE?

I'm not 100% on all of these guys:
Okur
Camby
Jermaine Oneal
Shaq
Brad Miller
Z
Haywood
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Jul 5, 2010 6:05pm
^^^

Okur would be a decent pickup..he's strong down low and shoots a decent jumper..

Been at work all day...any new news?
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Jul 5, 2010 6:17pm
Rich Bucher: As of the moment, all signs point to this scenario: LBJ (Cle), Wade + Bosh(Mia), Boozer(Chi), Amare(NY). Not that that's startling news.
That was posted by Bucher about 2 hours ago. Sounds about right. There is a story floating that Wade/Bosh have been video taping their free agent story. These 2 are a package deal I think at this point it seems be it Chicago or Miami.

Chicago though, even if they get shut out of the big 3 will be a better basketball team with Boozer. If they bring in one other piece they can be extremely competitive in the east this season as it is wide open.
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Jul 5, 2010 7:11pm
Per J.A Adnade:

Nike asked Lebron not to announce until the 8th because his decision would "overshadow" their/his camp

That would almost lead you to believe that he's leaving,because his staying in Cleveland would not overshadow a camp 20 minutes away
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Jul 5, 2010 7:17pm
ESPNEWS says Donnie Walsh says LeBron assured them that signing Amar'e is not going to impede his decision if he wants to come to NY
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Jul 5, 2010 7:19pm
Amare signing is good news

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Jul 5, 2010 7:19pm
Wes...for who though?
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Jul 5, 2010 7:20pm
gibby08;411641 wrote:ESPNEWS says Donnie Walsh says LeBron assured them that signing Amar'e is not going to impede his decision if he wants to come to NY[/]

ESPN's dumb, why even report that? Why is this even news, what the hell is Walsh supposed to say?
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Jul 5, 2010 7:24pm
gibby08;411649 wrote:Wes...for who though?

The Cavs....I know what Walsh says, but I am not buying it. Lebron wants to play with Bosh.
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Jul 5, 2010 7:26pm
wes_mantooth;411656 wrote:The Cavs....I know what Walsh says, but I am not buying it. Lebron wants to play with Bosh.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67852/20100705/report_lebron_okay_with_either_amare_or_bosh/
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Jul 5, 2010 7:27pm
Also, the Laker fans have to be loving all of this. All these all stars might be leaving the West....cakewalk to the finals.
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Jul 5, 2010 7:28pm

Like I said...I am not buying it. Lebron is not going to be a Knick. He may be a Bull, Net or Cav....not a Knick
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Jul 5, 2010 7:38pm
Brian Cashman thinks he will be a Knick
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Jul 5, 2010 7:39pm
....and so does every other New Yorker.