ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jul 4, 2010 9:56am
Thought it was pretty clear it was a joke, not surprised by who couldn't figure it out.
thedynasty1998
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Jul 4, 2010 9:59am
Thought it was, but I've heard some dumber things stated on here.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 4, 2010 10:01am
Broussard said this. Toronto doesn't really want to deal with Miami because they feel that Riley tampered with Bosh (through Wade) and the package Chicago would offer wouldn't be as good as Cleveland's. I think Houston could probably offer a better deal of all four.thedynasty1998;410473 wrote:Who said Toronto would accept Cleveland's offer first? I've heard many say that Cleveland just doesn't have the pieces that others have to offer in a S/T. Bosh knows that if he plays in Cleveland, he will never be looked at as a star. He would be joining Lebron on an established team, rather than taking an average team to the elite level. Plus, why go play with Lebron in Cleveland when he can play with Rose in Chicago or Wade in Miami?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 4, 2010 10:03am
jordo212000;410462 wrote:
It's one thing to say "screw Bosh" because he doesn't want to play in Cleveland, it's another thing to suddenly act like he is an average basketball player and you are happy you aren't getting him
As I said on previous pages, it may be a pipe dream but I'd prefer them try to swing a deal for CP3. I don't know that Bosh would fit what Byron Scott is looking to do defensively. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be crushed if the Cavs ended up with Bosh but he's not my first choice.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jul 4, 2010 10:11am
The only way CP3 or Bosh is coming to Cleveland is if they demand trades there. I have heard that Toronto like what Cleveland can offer, but Bosh has no interest.....so I just cannot see it happening.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jul 4, 2010 10:14am
Bosh has been in their sights for a long time, which to me has always been a little confusing given the defensive focus and lack of any tangible offense under Potato Head. I think Bosh can improve defensively but I have always wondered why he has been so high on the list. I'm not saying fuck 'em by any means, I'd be much more pleased by getting a legit point first. I guess I feel pretty much the same as you BR, but CP3 might be a little out of range.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jul 4, 2010 10:15am
Because Rose and Wade arent as good as Lebron???? People get 2 caught up in the whole "nobody wants to play in cleveland" They dont even play half of their games in the state of Ohio(and when they do, the Q is one of the best atmospheres in the league) and im sure dude has a house in Florida or somewhere else nice so he doesnt even have to be here for the offseason.thedynasty1998;410473 wrote: Plus, why go play with Lebron in Cleveland when he can play with Rose in Chicago or Wade in Miami?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 4, 2010 10:28am
Like I said, CP3 is a pipe dream, for now. I don't think he'd have as much of a problem coming to Cleveland as Bosh seems to.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jul 4, 2010 10:28am
Rotinaj;410485 wrote:Because Rose and Wade arent as good as Lebron???? People get 2 caught up in the whole "nobody wants to play in cleveland" They dont even play half of their games in the state of Ohio(and when they do, the Q is one of the best atmospheres in the league) and im sure dude has a house in Florida or somewhere else nice so he doesnt even have to be here for the offseason.
exactly
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 4, 2010 10:45am
thedynasty1998;410473 wrote:Who said Toronto would accept Cleveland's offer first? I've heard many say that Cleveland just doesn't have the pieces that others have to offer in a S/T. Bosh knows that if he plays in Cleveland, he will never be looked at as a star. He would be joining Lebron on an established team, rather than taking an average team to the elite level. Plus, why go play with Lebron in Cleveland when he can play with Rose in Chicago or Wade in Miami?
Either way, Bosh will go to a team (minus houston), where it won't be considered his team. Even at Houston he might have to compete with Yao's team.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jul 4, 2010 11:59am
ytownfootball;410475 wrote:Thought it was pretty clear it was a joke, not surprised by who couldn't figure it out.
You never know with some Cleveland Cavalier fans.
Guess I didn't figure that you were joking. It wasn't really all the funny, wasn't something somebody would typically "joke" about, and wasn't really all that far off from some of your earlier posts on this site.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 4, 2010 12:49pm
Money talks.
Windy and W&G have now both stated that Toronto likes Cleveland trade first and foremost. The Bulls and Miami are the teams that don't have the real pieces to make a viable trade happen, Toronto does not want Deng's contract and Miami has 3 guys on their roster right now.
The question is, when LeBron signs with Cleveland will Bosh walk away from the true max deal and $30 million?
Money talks when its placed in front of you and right now it isn't with Bosh. But when LeBron re-signs with Cleveland, the Cavs/Raptors will lay that max deal in front of Bosh. Then we'll see if he can walk away from 30 million. Brand or no brand, its easy to talk when the situation isn't fully real at the moment.
Windy and W&G have now both stated that Toronto likes Cleveland trade first and foremost. The Bulls and Miami are the teams that don't have the real pieces to make a viable trade happen, Toronto does not want Deng's contract and Miami has 3 guys on their roster right now.
The question is, when LeBron signs with Cleveland will Bosh walk away from the true max deal and $30 million?
Money talks when its placed in front of you and right now it isn't with Bosh. But when LeBron re-signs with Cleveland, the Cavs/Raptors will lay that max deal in front of Bosh. Then we'll see if he can walk away from 30 million. Brand or no brand, its easy to talk when the situation isn't fully real at the moment.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 4, 2010 12:50pm
KR1245;410448 wrote:awesome video......Gladiator music with Lebron highlights? Fuck yes
One of LeBron's favorite moves, his son his Bryce Maximus James.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jul 4, 2010 1:01pm
jordo212000;410530 wrote:You never know with some Cleveland Cavalier fans.
Guess I didn't figure that you were joking. It wasn't really all the funny, wasn't something somebody would typically "joke" about, and wasn't really all that far off from some of your earlier posts on this site.
Like I said, not surprised.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 4, 2010 1:14pm
From Windy twitter
Sources say LeBron plans to wait until after 3-day Nike camp in Akron is over to announce decision. Ends Wed. nite
Sources say LeBron plans to wait until after 3-day Nike camp in Akron is over to announce decision. Ends Wed. nite
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 4, 2010 1:19pm
Thurs. ironically is first day free agents can sign, cap numbers become official.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jul 4, 2010 1:29pm
Nike camp in Akron should get plenty of coverage lol.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 4, 2010 1:46pm
devil1197;410618 wrote:From Windy twitter
Sources say LeBron plans to wait until after 3-day Nike camp in Akron is over to announce decision. Ends Wed. nite
This is ridiculous. I am ready for this shit to end.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jul 4, 2010 3:24pm
Of course he will
Sources say LeBron plans to wait until after 3-day Nike camp in Akron is over to announce decision.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jul 4, 2010 3:47pm
Do the Cavs really want to part ways with both Hickson and Andy for Chris Bosh? Gilbert needs to get a grip here. This trade makes no sense to me.devil1197;410591 wrote:Money talks.
Windy and W&G have now both stated that Toronto likes Cleveland trade first and foremost. The Bulls and Miami are the teams that don't have the real pieces to make a viable trade happen, Toronto does not want Deng's contract and Miami has 3 guys on their roster right now.
The question is, when LeBron signs with Cleveland will Bosh walk away from the true max deal and $30 million?
Money talks when its placed in front of you and right now it isn't with Bosh. But when LeBron re-signs with Cleveland, the Cavs/Raptors will lay that max deal in front of Bosh. Then we'll see if he can walk away from 30 million. Brand or no brand, its easy to talk when the situation isn't fully real at the moment.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 4, 2010 4:31pm
Footwedge;410692 wrote:Do the Cavs really want to part ways with both Hickson and Andy for Chris Bosh? Gilbert needs to get a grip here. This trade makes no sense to me.
I'm not a Hickson fan per se but I still don't get all of the frothing at the mouth over Bosh.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 4, 2010 4:38pm
Yes, the Cavs should part ways with JJ/AV if you are getting a 20-10 all star PF in his prime. Consider the Cavs would get him locked into a 6 yr deal. Pairing two guys in their prime for multiple years is a move that needs to be made. I don't want to hope a guy like JJ, who has potential, pans out to be an all star.
AV is the tough one to part with but JJ has potential. I am willing to trade a defensive player and a kid with potential for a proven 20-10 guy. Especially if Cleveland can work around some contracts, if Toronto is willing, to take back Hedo.
AV is the tough one to part with but JJ has potential. I am willing to trade a defensive player and a kid with potential for a proven 20-10 guy. Especially if Cleveland can work around some contracts, if Toronto is willing, to take back Hedo.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 4, 2010 5:04pm
devil1197;410618 wrote:From Windy twitter
Sources say LeBron plans to wait until after 3-day Nike camp in Akron is over to announce decision. Ends Wed. nite
I still think there's a 90% chance he re-signs but this concerns me a bit. Is he using this time to mull over the other possibilities or to recruit players to come to Cleveland. Definitely hoping it's the latter.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jul 4, 2010 5:09pm
BR1986FB;410731 wrote:I still think there's a 90% chance he re-signs but this concerns me a bit. Is he using this time to mull over the other possibilities or to recruit players to come to Cleveland. Definitely hoping it's the latter.
You would think if it was a slam dunk toward Cleveland, he would just say it.
By waiting until after this camp, you wonder if he's worried about having to deal with the backlash from the camp participants and anyone else around this week if he would announce he's going elsewhere before the camp ended.
Hopefully it is something along the lines of trying to line up a situation to his liking in Cleveland, as you mentioned.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 4, 2010 5:10pm
BR1986FB;410731 wrote:I still think there's a 90% chance he re-signs but this concerns me a bit. Is he using this time to mull over the other possibilities or to recruit players to come to Cleveland. Definitely hoping it's the latter.
I'd say the guy has a life and its the holiday weekend. I am sure he would like some time to be with his family since he has been doing business constantly over the past 3-4 days. Even if he is mulling his options, Cleveland will still always win imo.
I wouldn't say he is recruiting guys either, once he re-signs with Cleveland the dominos will fall. Contrary to what people say, I believe personally that the other guys will wait until LeBron makes his decision. We've seen Dirk and JJ sign deals to their current teams, nothing shocking at all. Once Cleveland re-sings LeBron, they will be on the phone and receiving calls from guys.
People will twist it to say he won't make a decision to upset people at the camp, but its just another wild speculation that has plagued the entire process since last year.