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Swamp Fox
Posts: 2,218
Jun 19, 2010 10:54pm
I'm not crowning him anything but an exceptional pitcher. I'm certainly anxious to see what happens in the rest of this season. I just think that this kid is not just another "flash in the pan". He didn't just pitch one incredible game. He has been excellent every time he has gone to the mound. He can't help it if he's only been in the majors for about ten minutes. Sure he'll have a bad game. He may even have two, but I truly believe that those of you who think this kid isn't anything special are wrong. Did anyone happen to check his minor league record?
Barring any unforeseen circumstances like an injury, I don't think this kid will disappoint anyone. He seems to have amazing poise out there for a kid up for the first time.
Barring any unforeseen circumstances like an injury, I don't think this kid will disappoint anyone. He seems to have amazing poise out there for a kid up for the first time.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 19, 2010 11:01pm
Again......advanced scouts will figure out some tendencies and how much his curve drops and the second time through the league he won't maybe be as dominant..........but 99-101 or 97-98 with movement just leaves more room for error.
That being said......why didn't the league ever figure out Mariano Rivera.
Sometimes the greatest of the greatest never get figured out.....there just better......Strasburg might be.....but yes......has many many years to go...not starts
That being said......why didn't the league ever figure out Mariano Rivera.
Sometimes the greatest of the greatest never get figured out.....there just better......Strasburg might be.....but yes......has many many years to go...not starts

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jun 19, 2010 11:02pm
Fydrych was not a highly touted prospect when first drafted, so he is dissimilar in that respect from Strasburg.... But he burst upon the scene with some incredible performances(similar) and some crazy antics(dissimilar). He had the attention of eveyone(similar), and finished the season with 19 wins.
Rivera?....he only pitches one inning.
I don't deny that the kid looks good early.
Rivera?....he only pitches one inning.
I don't deny that the kid looks good early.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 19, 2010 11:05pm
I think Gooden is the most similar.....but Gooden was 18 in the minors with 300 strikeouts in 1 year...lol
His career numbers up to age 25 age just out of reach....silly
His career numbers up to age 25 age just out of reach....silly

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 19, 2010 11:23pm
Goodness...
1984 Dwight Gooden 19 years old 218 innings 276 K 2.60 era
From Aug 17th-Sept 23rd he had 8 starts.....5 of them were complete games including 2 shutouts and the other 3 he went 8 innings....he was 7-1 with his loss being a 16 K 8 inning game that he gave up 1 run......during that stretch (again at age 19) he had 95 k and 12 BB
In 1985 at age 20 he only went 24-4 with 16 complete games, 8 shutouts, 276 innings and 268 K....Oh and his ERA was 1.53
Thru age 23 he had 91 wins and nearly 1100 K
This is silly.......after 2 seasons and still just age 20 he had 11 shutouts......the next year Jamie Moyer debuts in 1986 and he is still pitching and has 10 career shutouts.....only Roy Halladay with 18 and Chris Carpenter with 13 have more than Gooden did at age 20.
1984 Dwight Gooden 19 years old 218 innings 276 K 2.60 era
From Aug 17th-Sept 23rd he had 8 starts.....5 of them were complete games including 2 shutouts and the other 3 he went 8 innings....he was 7-1 with his loss being a 16 K 8 inning game that he gave up 1 run......during that stretch (again at age 19) he had 95 k and 12 BB
In 1985 at age 20 he only went 24-4 with 16 complete games, 8 shutouts, 276 innings and 268 K....Oh and his ERA was 1.53
Thru age 23 he had 91 wins and nearly 1100 K
This is silly.......after 2 seasons and still just age 20 he had 11 shutouts......the next year Jamie Moyer debuts in 1986 and he is still pitching and has 10 career shutouts.....only Roy Halladay with 18 and Chris Carpenter with 13 have more than Gooden did at age 20.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 19, 2010 11:25pm
Strasburg is unbelievable to watch.....but if given the opportunity.....he couldn't do that....even if you skewed the numbers in comparison to back in the mid 80's......not too mention he is 3 years older

ohiotiger33
Posts: 1,500
Jun 20, 2010 6:20am
^^ Lol not really following it much, but what do you have against the kid?

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 20, 2010 9:49am
you must not be following the thread either....I'm one of his biggest supporters on here
I was just trying to compare him to someone I remember...then was overwhelmed by some of Gooden's numbers at such a young age
I was just trying to compare him to someone I remember...then was overwhelmed by some of Gooden's numbers at such a young age