ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jun 18, 2010 11:57am
SnotBubbles;394098 wrote:So...it's still looking good as long as the US takes care of business?
Need England to take care of business as well, that way Slovenia doesn't get any more points.
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patriots34
Posts: 183
Jun 18, 2010 11:57am
Our cocksucking defense in the first half put us in that position.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Jun 18, 2010 11:58am
ts1227;394108 wrote:Need England to take care of business as well, that way Slovenia doesn't get any more points.
If England only draws one game, we'd need to win goal differential. Need to root for the English, baby! Go England!!!
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jun 18, 2010 11:59am
If US wins, they are through unless England/Slovenia draw.
BigAppleBuckeye
Posts: 2,935
Jun 18, 2010 12:00pm
US advance scenarios:
SCENARIO A
*US beats Algeria
*England beats Algeria and Slovenia
SCENARIO B
*US beats Algeria
*England beats Algeria
*Slovenia beats England
SCENARIO C
*US beats Algeria 2-0
*England beats Algeria
*England ties Slovenia
Correct?
SCENARIO A
*US beats Algeria
*England beats Algeria and Slovenia
SCENARIO B
*US beats Algeria
*England beats Algeria
*Slovenia beats England
SCENARIO C
*US beats Algeria 2-0
*England beats Algeria
*England ties Slovenia
Correct?
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pinstriper
Posts: 225
Jun 18, 2010 12:00pm
Not true. We want Endgland to win both games. And we win over Algeria. That's the best/easiest case scenaio. If Eng/Slo tie, then we have to beat Algeria by 2 or more goals to advance via the tie breaker.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Jun 18, 2010 12:02pm
YeahBigAppleBuckeye;394115 wrote:US advance scenarios:
SCENARIO A
*US beats Algeria
*England beats Algeria and Slovenia
SCENARIO B
*US beats Algeria
*England beats Algeria
*Slovenia beats England
SCENARIO C
*US beats Algeria 2-0
*England beats Algeria
*England ties Slovenia
Correct?
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jun 18, 2010 12:02pm
If US wins, and Slovenia beats England, US also advances. US 5, England 4
BigAppleBuckeye
Posts: 2,935
Jun 18, 2010 12:03pm
pinstriper;394118 wrote:Not true. We want Endgland to win both games. And we win over Algeria. That's the best/easiest case scenaio. If Eng/Slo tie, then we have to beat Algeria by 2 or more goals to advance via the tie breaker.
Why? If England beats Algeria but loses to Slovenia, and we beat Algeria, Slovenia would have 7 points, the US 5 pts, England 4 ... we advance
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Jun 18, 2010 12:03pm
Ok think I got it straight. Thanks for the scenarios.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jun 18, 2010 12:05pm
Lets just win by 2 and taking everything else outta question
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Jun 18, 2010 12:05pm
If the US wins it will be very unlikely they don't advance, since after goal differential goals scored is the next tiebreaker I believe.
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slcoach
Posts: 421
Jun 18, 2010 12:13pm
I know it is unlikely, but wouldn't the US control their own destiny with an England loss today?
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Jun 18, 2010 12:14pm
slcoach;394132 wrote:I know it is unlikely, but wouldn't the US control their own destiny with an England loss today?
yes all theyd have to do is win
BigAppleBuckeye
Posts: 2,935
Jun 18, 2010 12:16pm
What happens if we only beat Algeria 1-0, England beats Algeria 1-0, and England and Slovenia tie?
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trackandccrunner
Posts: 1,283
Jun 18, 2010 12:17pm
If England lost today then beat Slovenia and the US beats Algeria we would win the group. Although this is the most unlikely thing that could happen.
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trackandccrunner
Posts: 1,283
Jun 18, 2010 12:18pm
It would go by goals scored. So if England/Slovenia tied 0-0 we would advance.BigAppleBuckeye;394135 wrote:What happens if we only beat Algeria 1-0, England beats Algeria 1-0, and England and Slovenia tie?
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jun 18, 2010 12:19pm
BigAppleBuckeye;394135 wrote:What happens if we only beat Algeria 1-0, England beats Algeria 1-0, and England and Slovenia tie?
Heads explode.
KnightXC1
Posts: 1,031
Jun 18, 2010 1:43pm
Terrible call by the ref basically cost the US the game but the crappy ass defense put them in the 2-0 hole to begin with. Can't worry about what the other teams do at this point as the USA just needs to WIN a game, it's that simple. Win and we are likely in barring something crazy happening.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jun 18, 2010 1:54pm
hey--there was only ONE vote for a draw when the game ended---who voted after the game???
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trackandccrunner
Posts: 1,283
Jun 18, 2010 1:58pm
vball10set;394241 wrote:hey--there was only ONE vote for a draw when the game ended---who voted after the game???
I dunno there was also 2 people who voted for Slovenia to win during the game.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 18, 2010 3:28pm
If England and Algeria tie, we control our own destiny. This is what we want to happen. If Algeria wins, we control our own destiny (but so do they, so the game will be tougher, in theory). So everyone.....just root for a goddamn tie this second half!
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 18, 2010 3:31pm
Laley23;394312 wrote:If England and Algeria tie, we control our own destiny. This is what we want to happen. If Algeria wins, we control our own destiny (but so do they, so the game will be tougher, in theory). So everyone.....just root for a goddamn tie this second half!
Preferably a 0-0 tie. That means, with a win against Algeria and an England win over Slovenia, we'd have an OK chance at going through as the top team from Group C (assuming England doesn't go nuts against the Slovenes)
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trackandccrunner
Posts: 1,283
Jun 18, 2010 3:32pm
gorocks99;394318 wrote:Preferably a 0-0 tie. That means, with a win against Algeria and an England win over Slovenia, we'd have an OK chance at going through as the top team from Group C (assuming England doesn't go nuts against the Slovenes)
This!
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 18, 2010 3:33pm
On the game:
A. That was a laser by Donovan. Would've made Fab1 proud if it was about 6 inches closer to the keeper cause it wouldve taken his head off
B. Gooch and Howard need to get off this long ball bullshit. Its all they did all game. No build ups. I cant be anymore critical than that cause somehow it resulted in 2 goals.
C. We want a TIE!
D. There is no such thing as offside(s). It is offside. If you are offsidesssss you are not in the game at all (if you take the meaning literal)
E. Oneywu needs to learn what (in Tim Howards words, if you read his mouth today) "STEP TO THE FUCKING BALL" means. He cost us both goals by not stepping up on the man with the ball. In his defense, the other defenders could help a bit
F. We need to shoot more often.
G. We got fucked by the ref, but should also feel a bit fortunate we tied. We really didnt play great at all.
A. That was a laser by Donovan. Would've made Fab1 proud if it was about 6 inches closer to the keeper cause it wouldve taken his head off
B. Gooch and Howard need to get off this long ball bullshit. Its all they did all game. No build ups. I cant be anymore critical than that cause somehow it resulted in 2 goals.
C. We want a TIE!
D. There is no such thing as offside(s). It is offside. If you are offsidesssss you are not in the game at all (if you take the meaning literal)
E. Oneywu needs to learn what (in Tim Howards words, if you read his mouth today) "STEP TO THE FUCKING BALL" means. He cost us both goals by not stepping up on the man with the ball. In his defense, the other defenders could help a bit
F. We need to shoot more often.
G. We got fucked by the ref, but should also feel a bit fortunate we tied. We really didnt play great at all.