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FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Jun 11, 2010 10:10pm
A Seattle TV station just confirmed that Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State are indeed going to leave the Big 12 and join the Pac 10. Everything will become official next Tuesday.
There is still no word on what Texas A&M will do. I think they are tired of being in the shadow of Texas and want to go on their own to the SEC.
No one knows what will happen to the remaining Big 12 schools. I have a particular interest in Missouri because their coach was a classmate of mine when we both attended Kent State. I hope they join the Big 10.
There is still no word on what Texas A&M will do. I think they are tired of being in the shadow of Texas and want to go on their own to the SEC.
No one knows what will happen to the remaining Big 12 schools. I have a particular interest in Missouri because their coach was a classmate of mine when we both attended Kent State. I hope they join the Big 10.
Scarlet_Fever
Posts: 736
Jun 11, 2010 10:34pm
If this is true they will need to add one more. Look for the Big 10 to immediately jump to a 16 team league. I believe it will then be Notre Dame, Missouri, Syracuse. Not sure who the fourth will be. I actually hope it is Kansas making on heck of a Basketball conference also. Although the fourth could be A&M.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jun 11, 2010 11:10pm
Pac 10 is getting greedy IMO. 16 teams is way too many. Taking OK State and Texas Tech must be a deal breaker for Oklahoma and Texas or something? Oklahoma St is acceptable I guess, but Texas Tech is probably on the decline. Neither of those schools are home runs.
How profitable do they expect to be with 16 teams? That seems like a lot of mouths to feed
How profitable do they expect to be with 16 teams? That seems like a lot of mouths to feed
krambman
Posts: 3,606
Jun 11, 2010 11:14pm
If this does happen on Tuesday my guess is that the Pac-10 will hold out to see what happens with Texas A&M. If A&M ends up in the SEC then I would expect the Pac-10 to offer either Baylor or Kansas. If A&M is denied by the SEC then I expect them to get an invite from the Pac-10 which they would accept.
I think this will force the Big Ten to go to 16 teams (and not stop at 14 which I think may have been their preference all along). I would expect them to then offer Missouri, Rutgers, and either Syracuse or UConn. This would put them at 15 schools and would begin the demise of the Big East with two schools gone. Even if A&M doesn't end up in the SEC I would expect the SEC to have begun looking at adding Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, and either Virginia Tech or Clemson. This would cause the ACC to look to the Big Eat to expand to 16. This would essentially force Notre Dame into the Big Ten as the 16th team. If ND chooses to remain independent them I would expect the Big Ten to offer UConn, Syracuse, or maybe Pitt (whoever they didn't offer first) their 16th spot. The next few weeks should be fun to watch.
I think this will force the Big Ten to go to 16 teams (and not stop at 14 which I think may have been their preference all along). I would expect them to then offer Missouri, Rutgers, and either Syracuse or UConn. This would put them at 15 schools and would begin the demise of the Big East with two schools gone. Even if A&M doesn't end up in the SEC I would expect the SEC to have begun looking at adding Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, and either Virginia Tech or Clemson. This would cause the ACC to look to the Big Eat to expand to 16. This would essentially force Notre Dame into the Big Ten as the 16th team. If ND chooses to remain independent them I would expect the Big Ten to offer UConn, Syracuse, or maybe Pitt (whoever they didn't offer first) their 16th spot. The next few weeks should be fun to watch.
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purple_rein
Posts: 349
Jun 11, 2010 11:37pm
Still hoping that Texas will pull a fast one in the end and head to the Big Ten.
Some may call it crazy but it makes the most sense (and money) and the Texas AD and Chancellor are not stupid.
Some may call it crazy but it makes the most sense (and money) and the Texas AD and Chancellor are not stupid.
killdeer
Posts: 1,538
Jun 12, 2010 12:53am
as i said a week ago...
the Big 12 is clearly dead.
this is absolutely huge...the hugest transition in college football since the Gipper passed away, and they put away the leather helmets.
Missouri and W. VA would be great additions to the Big "10"....look for it to happen.
(Notre Dame would be fine, if we have to settle for 2nd best)...... yawwwwwn.
the Big 12 is clearly dead.
this is absolutely huge...the hugest transition in college football since the Gipper passed away, and they put away the leather helmets.
Missouri and W. VA would be great additions to the Big "10"....look for it to happen.
(Notre Dame would be fine, if we have to settle for 2nd best)...... yawwwwwn.
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Jun 12, 2010 12:55am
Why couldn't the Big XII go this route? Assuming Missouri goes to the Big Ten.
South Division
Arkansas (Replacing Nebraska)
Baylor
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian (Replacing Missouri)
Texas Tech
North Division
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State
Utah (Replacing Colorado)
BYU, Nevada, UNLV, Boise State, Arizona, Arizona State are all options if they wanted to go to 14. The biggest problem with the Big XII, and with any conference that looks to add Texas, is Texas. They strong-arm the opposition to gain contractual advantages which carry over onto the field. Only Oklahoma has the wherewithal and strength to counter them. That's why I placed them in the North Division.
South Division
Arkansas (Replacing Nebraska)
Baylor
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian (Replacing Missouri)
Texas Tech
North Division
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State
Utah (Replacing Colorado)
BYU, Nevada, UNLV, Boise State, Arizona, Arizona State are all options if they wanted to go to 14. The biggest problem with the Big XII, and with any conference that looks to add Texas, is Texas. They strong-arm the opposition to gain contractual advantages which carry over onto the field. Only Oklahoma has the wherewithal and strength to counter them. That's why I placed them in the North Division.
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FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Jun 12, 2010 1:05am
sjmvsfscs08;387506 wrote:Why couldn't the Big XII go this route? Assuming Missouri goes to the Big Ten.
South Division
Arkansas (Replacing Nebraska)
Baylor
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Christian (Replacing Missouri)
Texas Tech
North Division
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Kansas State
Utah (Replacing Colorado)
BYU, Nevada, UNLV, Boise State, Arizona, Arizona State are all options if they wanted to go to 14. The biggest problem with the Big XII, and with any conference that looks to add Texas, is Texas. They strong-arm the opposition to gain contractual advantages which carry over onto the field. Only Oklahoma has the wherewithal and strength to counter them. That's why I placed them in the North Division.
According to the Seattle station, it is already a done deal that TX, Tech, OK, and OK State are going to the Pac 10. Everything will be finalized on Tuesday.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jun 12, 2010 1:16am
If the Big 12 held together in some form where was a decent revenue stream (which it won't), I could see Arkansas and A&M switching places. SEC isn't looking to expand, A&M wants to go to the SEC, and Arkansas somewhat regrets ever joining the SEC (the money is the only thing keeping them there).
krambman
Posts: 3,606
Jun 12, 2010 1:21am
I definitely won't "look for it to happen" because West Virginia has never been and will never be in the discussion for Big Ten expansion. Yes, they are a good fit geographically and they are good in football and basketball, but they bring NOTHING financially. In fact, they may lose the conference money instead of bring revenue in.killdeer;387505 wrote:as i said a week ago...
the Big 12 is clearly dead.
this is absolutely huge...the hugest transition in college football since the Gipper passed away, and they put away the leather helmets.
Missouri and W. VA would be great additions to the Big "10"....look for it to happen.
(Notre Dame would be fine, if we have to settle for 2nd best)...... yawwwwwn.
Do you know how many people it takes to fix a TV in West Virginia?
None. There's no electricity in West Virginia.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 12, 2010 9:39am
FairwoodKing;387508 wrote:According to the Seattle station, it is already a done deal that TX, Tech, OK, and OK State are going to the Pac 10. Everything will be finalized on Tuesday.
Did you even read his post?
Oh and just because a Seattle station (LOL) says its a done deal, does not mean it's a done deal.
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FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Jun 12, 2010 5:14pm
SportsAndLady;387596 wrote:Did you even read his post?
Oh and just because a Seattle station (LOL) says its a done deal, does not mean it's a done deal.
Here is the link where they got the story. It is from the big newspaper in Austin.
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2010/06/11/official_ut_tec.html?cxntfid=blogs_bevo_beat
Red_Skin_Pride
Posts: 1,226
Jun 12, 2010 5:33pm
FairwoodKing;387913 wrote:Here is the link where they got the story. It is from the big newspaper in Austin.
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2010/06/11/official_ut_tec.html?cxntfid=blogs_bevo_beat
No offense, but the guy who wrote that article is a beat writer Fairwood...you do know that a beat writer has about as much credibility as an german shepherd writing the same story...
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 12, 2010 5:36pm
FairwoodKing;387913 wrote:Here is the link where they got the story. It is from the big newspaper in Austin.
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2010/06/11/official_ut_tec.html?cxntfid=blogs_bevo_beat
K so you get your info from blogs..cool, that tells me all I need to know about your retardation.
Sykotyk
Posts: 1,155
Jun 12, 2010 10:27pm
Umm, most of the 'breaking news' about conference realignment has come from Orangebloods.com, which is a blog site whose author is the former beat reporter from Dallas.
Considering it's a blog hosted by the newspaper would logically lead one to believe that it's a reporter who is using it as their personal sounding board without the need to neatly fit something into an article. Especially as the info is changing hourly.
Sykotyk
Considering it's a blog hosted by the newspaper would logically lead one to believe that it's a reporter who is using it as their personal sounding board without the need to neatly fit something into an article. Especially as the info is changing hourly.
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FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Jun 13, 2010 5:06am
SportsAndLady;387924 wrote:K so you get your info from blogs..cool, that tells me all I need to know about your retardation.
Listen asshole, I got my original info from KOMO4 news in Seattle. They got it from the Austin paper.
We will just have to wait until Tuesday to see who's right.
Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Jun 13, 2010 8:35am
FairwoodKing, I think you may have to serve some time for that personal attack on sportsandlady. Cant be doing it bro
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Jun 13, 2010 10:17am
S&L called him retarded.
both of them should be in timeout.
both of them should be in timeout.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Jun 13, 2010 10:26am
I hope the Big Ten adds anyone but Notre Dame.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jun 13, 2010 11:10am
I'm sure Delany was waiting for your input on expansion. I expect things should start moving quickly now, probably a news conference at noon today.newarkcatholicfan;388321 wrote:I hope the Big Ten adds anyone but Notre Dame.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Jun 13, 2010 11:22am
I will respond to you by saying poor attempt at trying to take this topic to a minor league level by taking a shot at me.
Now back to talking football.
Now back to talking football.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jun 13, 2010 11:27am
^^^^^
Share your football related reasons for wanting anyone besides Notre Dame to join the Big Ten
Share your football related reasons for wanting anyone besides Notre Dame to join the Big Ten
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jun 13, 2010 11:50am
ND is now forced to join the B10, will be a nice addition.
The tradition of OSU/MSU/Nebraska/ND/PSU is deep. Will be a great move to have a B10 championship game also.
The tradition of OSU/MSU/Nebraska/ND/PSU is deep. Will be a great move to have a B10 championship game also.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jun 13, 2010 12:13pm
What has happened that has forced Notre Dame to join?
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 13, 2010 12:13pm
devil1197;388368 wrote:ND is now forced to join the B10, will be a nice addition.
The tradition of OSU/MSU/Nebraska/ND/PSU is deep. Will be a great move to have a B10 championship game also.
any particular reason you left michigan off there? or did you mean to put them and not msu