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Should they expand replay in MLB?

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Jun 5, 2010 1:20 AM
Thanks for agreeing with my "rambling diaTRIBE"!
Jun 5, 2010 1:20am
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Jun 5, 2010 5:10 AM
BRF;379688 wrote:See, here's how I see it. Umps have this thing about "whatever they call on a play is right and that's it".

Get rid of that notion.

If the ump makes a call........and there's a big hoo-ha about it, then call a little conference.......then make your decision.

Voila!

If Joyce (or any other umpire for that matter) would have called a time out and went to the head of the crew and had a conference.........I believe that the others would have given their opinion and the game would have been over. Out!

The umps have to get off of this thing about whatever they call on the bases or the walls is the WORD. Take a little step down and confer with your colleagues and THAT keeps it human and out of the hands of technology.

IMO, in the situation at hand...............when Joyce called the runner out..........then saw the reaction.............he should be able to call an immediate conference of all the umpires............then make the ruling.

Joyce was 3 feet from the play. No other ump on the field would have the right to come in during a "timeout" and overturn that call. It was his call and his call only.

It's unfortunate it happened, but it did. But that's life, shit happens. No game is perfect and trying to make it perfect is only going to ruin it. We're taking the purity out of the sports, it's no longer about making calls and not worrying about feelings or understanding that mistakes by HUMANS will be made. First it's replay, then when a batter gets called out on strikes to end Game 7 of the World Series, only to see on replay it was a ball, we'll have people crying for a "standard" strike zone with a machine measuring the pitches and determining if they were balls or strikes..
Jun 5, 2010 5:10am
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Jun 5, 2010 10:30 AM
I Wear Pants;379686 wrote:I think that's as stupid as eating a shit sandwich.

Why would you want to have bad calls if you can make the right call? The whole "it's the way it's always been is absurd". You're arguing that foul balls being called fair, home runs not being called when they should have been, etc are an important part of the game. This is absurd. You should want to have the correct call every time.

You want to have it right as much as possible but not at the expense of slowing down a game and introducing problems like somebody else mentioned of having to figure out what to do with different runners and other variables.


Make a call, live with it. Its the way its been for 120 years
Jun 5, 2010 10:30am
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Jun 5, 2010 11:16 AM
Replay should be implemented and it doesn't slow the game down one bit. First, you cannot use it for balls and strikes, it just can't be done because there would be too much complaining. It gets used for:

Whether a ball is a home run or not
Plays at any base
Catches in the field

That's all they need. It would be hard for fair/foul balls because of runner determination, but they could use it to determine if the ball was foul when an ump called it fair. Just would be hard to go the other way around. The argument about slowing down the game is absurd. You have a guy in the booth who sees every replay who can call down to the crew chief on the field and inform him they are reviewing the last play. It's not like football where replays can take forever, it's a simple solution to make sure things like what happened Wednesday night never happen again.
Jun 5, 2010 11:16am
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Jun 5, 2010 11:54 AM
No. I won't want to see it.
Jun 5, 2010 11:54am
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hasbeen

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Jun 5, 2010 11:55 AM
No. I don't want to see it.
Jun 5, 2010 11:55am
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Jun 5, 2010 7:40 PM
Again, plays at bases and catches/no catches probably make up 80% of the plays resulting in outs in Major League Baseball.
Jun 5, 2010 7:40pm
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Jun 6, 2010 12:15 AM
It would indeed slow down the game. I am on Darby's side on this and if you knew his background on experiences, you might agree instead of sour graping it, KnightXC1.
Jun 6, 2010 12:15am
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Jun 6, 2010 9:32 AM
Really, If you want to get it right, then set up a laser grid for calling balls and strikes and give a manager one challenge on anything else.

I think anyone who really understands the game knows that if inequity exists, it is in the umpires interpretation of the strike zone, and not in the extremely low incidence of missed calls. That is the engine that drives the game. If the umpire chooses to give a pitcher three inches off the plate, that has HUGE implications and effect on every AB. A borderline call on a pitch has a direct effect on a pitchers and hitter's approach. There is a big difference between a 1-2 count and a 2-1 count..or 2-2 and 3-1.....and yet questionable, borderline calls like these happen dozens of times a game.

If you really want to get it right, then do this.... either that or leave it alone as is. Don't institute some half assed system.



Let's leave the game alone.
Jun 6, 2010 9:32am
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Jun 6, 2010 9:45 AM
^^^^^

they tried that before and it didn't even come close to solving the issues, back in the 70's. It just never, never worked. Its mentioned in Ron Luciano's book
Jun 6, 2010 9:45am
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Jun 6, 2010 9:52 AM
2010 minus 1970 = 40 years.

Besides, my point is to just leave the game alone.
Jun 6, 2010 9:52am
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Jun 6, 2010 10:19 AM
^^^^

I know. Just thought that maybe for some other people that the fact I did mention was indeed worth mentioning
Jun 6, 2010 10:19am
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Jun 6, 2010 11:02 AM
BRF - I'm not sour graping anything. It wouldn't slow down the game one bit. No one complains about replay in football, hockey, or basketball and I doubt anyone will in baseball. It's like you have to replay every single throw to first base. Guy in booth looks at replay, something doesn't seem right so buzz down to crew chief, get call right. Not that hard nor time consuming. I am a purist when it comes to sports but it's time for baseball to get with the times.
Jun 6, 2010 11:02am
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Jun 6, 2010 4:05 PM
even if they figure out a way for it to not take a lot of time they're going to have to come up with limitations... not everything will be up for review, and as someone else has discussed you're also going to have problems once a decision is made about where to place runners ahead of the play that was made and stuff....

Just leave the game the way it is
Jun 6, 2010 4:05pm
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Jun 6, 2010 5:34 PM
^^ I agree not everything will be able to reviewed and perhaps coaches only get 1-2 challenges with the umps being able to replay any discretion they have.

They have left the game alone for a long time but some changes have to come with the times.
Jun 6, 2010 5:34pm