
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 18, 2010 11:21pm
I'm already sick of a few certain dumbass people around here for saying that LeBron didn't play well in the playoffs, or that now the debate is back open for who the best player is (after it was closed pretty much all season)..absolutely sick of it. You guys are such prisoners of the moment and can't pay attention to what REALLY relates to what you're talking about. So this is my way of providing charity to you and spelling it out as if you were 4 fucking years old:
27 PPG (9/19 FG, 1/4 3's, 9/12 FT), 9 boards, 7 assists, 2 steals, 1 block.
That's LeBron's average stat line for the series. And wait, there is more.
14 PPG (5/14 FG, 1/4 3's, 2.5/3 FT), 5 boards, 4 assists, 1 steal, 0 blocks.
That's the guy he guarded.
And for reference, so far against the Magic, Pierce has outdone his BEST effort against the Cavs BOTH times. His best effort against the Cavs was during LeBron's game 5 letdown. And he still needed 21 shots to get 21 points.
So we're going to question a guy's talent because his TEAM didn't win when he puts up an average stat line that 99% of the players that have EVER played in the NBA would kill for. And that includes what might be his worst career game, his numbers were still that good.
Let us not forget that the guy also attracts more defensive attention than Dwight Howard. Yet he STILL does that. Let us not forget that while he gets torn apart for game 5, Kobe REFUSED TO SHOOT and allowed his team to get knocked out of the playoffs. But everyone wants to talk about "look what Kobe is doing now". Look what Kobe did when his roster was a joke. Conveniently decides to go back to being the Black Mamba after they get Gasol. Name an A player that LeBron has played with--you can't, the closest is Jamison and he had less than half a season to fit in.
Bottom line, I have no problem with LeBron taking the heat in a losing situation when he gets all the praise in a win (although he OFTEN deflects the praise onto his teammates in those situations), but it's getting out of hand. Never in my life have a seen such an overreaction based on a handful of games about a 25 year old athlete. Some want to even go as far as saying that his legacy is forever tarnished and he may never recover from it. Yet NO ONE seems to want to remember Kobe's charades. And all Kobe did was simply voluntarily quit on his team. But no one wants to remember that...
Let's give the kid a chance to fill his legacy before we go the way of ESPN and try to write it while it's still going.
27 PPG (9/19 FG, 1/4 3's, 9/12 FT), 9 boards, 7 assists, 2 steals, 1 block.
That's LeBron's average stat line for the series. And wait, there is more.
14 PPG (5/14 FG, 1/4 3's, 2.5/3 FT), 5 boards, 4 assists, 1 steal, 0 blocks.
That's the guy he guarded.
And for reference, so far against the Magic, Pierce has outdone his BEST effort against the Cavs BOTH times. His best effort against the Cavs was during LeBron's game 5 letdown. And he still needed 21 shots to get 21 points.
So we're going to question a guy's talent because his TEAM didn't win when he puts up an average stat line that 99% of the players that have EVER played in the NBA would kill for. And that includes what might be his worst career game, his numbers were still that good.
Let us not forget that the guy also attracts more defensive attention than Dwight Howard. Yet he STILL does that. Let us not forget that while he gets torn apart for game 5, Kobe REFUSED TO SHOOT and allowed his team to get knocked out of the playoffs. But everyone wants to talk about "look what Kobe is doing now". Look what Kobe did when his roster was a joke. Conveniently decides to go back to being the Black Mamba after they get Gasol. Name an A player that LeBron has played with--you can't, the closest is Jamison and he had less than half a season to fit in.
Bottom line, I have no problem with LeBron taking the heat in a losing situation when he gets all the praise in a win (although he OFTEN deflects the praise onto his teammates in those situations), but it's getting out of hand. Never in my life have a seen such an overreaction based on a handful of games about a 25 year old athlete. Some want to even go as far as saying that his legacy is forever tarnished and he may never recover from it. Yet NO ONE seems to want to remember Kobe's charades. And all Kobe did was simply voluntarily quit on his team. But no one wants to remember that...
Let's give the kid a chance to fill his legacy before we go the way of ESPN and try to write it while it's still going.

Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
May 18, 2010 11:24pm
Yea but they lost, so NONE of that shit really matters.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 18, 2010 11:25pm
Exacto^

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 18, 2010 11:36pm
Sick of hearing bout brons.

Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
May 18, 2010 11:37pm
Thank you man!sleeper wrote: Sick of hearing bout brons.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 18, 2010 11:41pm
REALLY.....ANOTHER LEBRON THREAD?!?!?
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kobeismvp
Posts: 22
May 18, 2010 11:43pm
2 straight years best record in the NBA
2 straight years League MVP
2 straight years bounced by inferior teams
3-14 in a 32 point HOME loss in the most important game of the series.
All Kobe has done is win 4 ships and working on #5 and 3 straight Finals.
2 straight years League MVP
2 straight years bounced by inferior teams
3-14 in a 32 point HOME loss in the most important game of the series.
All Kobe has done is win 4 ships and working on #5 and 3 straight Finals.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 18, 2010 11:45pm
Is that you Skyhook!?!?!?!?!?!!? Also, players cant win a championship by themselves.kobeismvp wrote: 2 straight years best record in the NBA
2 straight years League MVP
2 straight years bounced by inferior teams
3-14 in a 32 point HOME loss in the most important game of the series.
All Kobe has done is win 4 ships and working on #5 and 3 straight Finals.

Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
May 18, 2010 11:49pm
isnt that what Shaq was for? A veteran, experience, someone to shut down Howard.Pick6 wrote:Is that you Skyhook!?!?!?!?!?!!? Also, players cant win a championship by themselves.kobeismvp wrote: 2 straight years best record in the NBA
2 straight years League MVP
2 straight years bounced by inferior teams
3-14 in a 32 point HOME loss in the most important game of the series.
All Kobe has done is win 4 ships and working on #5 and 3 straight Finals.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 18, 2010 11:50pm
We never got to Howard lol.

Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
May 18, 2010 11:52pm
but, but but i thought that was all that was standing in their way?hoops23 wrote: We never got to Howard lol.

Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
May 18, 2010 11:54pm
This.Pick6 wrote:[size=xx-large]Is that you Skyhook!?!?!?!?!?!!? [/size]Also, players cant win a championship by themselves.kobeismvp wrote: 2 straight years best record in the NBA
2 straight years League MVP
2 straight years bounced by inferior teams
3-14 in a 32 point HOME loss in the most important game of the series.
All Kobe has done is win 4 ships and working on #5 and 3 straight Finals.

reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
May 18, 2010 11:54pm
No one cares if you're sick of it. LeBron's out, Kobe's in. Year. After. Year. Settled.
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kobeismvp
Posts: 22
May 18, 2010 11:54pm
They forgot about Big Baby Davis. They will have to get someone to match-up with him now.Glory Days wrote:but, but but i thought that was all that was standing in their way?hoops23 wrote: We never got to Howard lol.

reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
May 18, 2010 11:56pm
BTW, not one person read all that shit, if any of it at all. Not one. Take that to the bank.

Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
May 19, 2010 12:00am
Hahah dude I thought the exact same thing when I made my 1st post on this thread.reclegend22 wrote: BTW, not one person read all that shit, if any of it at all. Not one. Take that to the bank.
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kobeismvp
Posts: 22
May 19, 2010 12:04am
Once people see that its sq_crazies aka (Mr Wrong& Spin Doctor) posting they do 1 of 2 things. Don' read it or do the opposite of what he says.

Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
May 19, 2010 12:05am
It's official: that dude is skyhook.
haha
haha

SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 19, 2010 12:09am
Pathetic responses...at best. Not sure why I expect any better out of you morons these days.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 19, 2010 12:14am
You bring it on yourself.....GET OVER IT.

Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
May 19, 2010 12:14am
Exactly. It's over. Time to move on..Automatik wrote: You bring it on yourself.....GET OVER IT.

SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 19, 2010 12:16am
LMAO! It's over?! Why do I read this bullshit every day then?

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 19, 2010 12:17am
But yet you're adding to it.....

Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
May 19, 2010 12:17am
Very good question.SQ_Crazies wrote: LMAO! It's over?! Why do I read this bullshit every day then?

SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 19, 2010 12:18am
I'm providing some lost souls with some knowledge is what I'm doing.
Who would think that the bar would ever be set soon high that LeBron could average that line and have "played poorly"? What a joke.
Who would think that the bar would ever be set soon high that LeBron could average that line and have "played poorly"? What a joke.