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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
May 20, 2010 9:26am
Rofl @ someone acting like a badass over an avatar bet on an internet message board.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 20, 2010 10:42am
Ohhhhhhh, I finally saw the bet, read over it before.
But no thanks, I could care less what your avatar is or who gets drafted where. I called him a top 3 prospect because he is by most accounts.
But no thanks, I could care less what your avatar is or who gets drafted where. I called him a top 3 prospect because he is by most accounts.
And doesn't mean shit...lolKeebler wrote:He was comparing Kwame Brown's size to Cousins size. Which isn't even close.SQ_Crazies wrote: WTF does Kwame Brown have to do with Cousins? Absolutely nothing.
And what bet are you talking about? I didn't know I ever made a bet.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 20, 2010 11:19am
Keebler wrote:Also only has him listed as 6' 9". 245 at 6'9" compared to 240 at 6' 11".... Hmmmmmlhslep134 wrote: He was 260 when he was 19 though, same age Cousins is.
And Cousins is listed at 245 on his high school page, same as Brown coming out of high school.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2619228
Well considering the exact same type of things were said about Kwame Brown entering the league as Cousins: The ridiculous movement and speed for someone his size but the attitude problems, then it makes sense to compare them.SQ_Crazies wrote: Ohhhhhhh, I finally saw the bet, read over it before.
But no thanks, I could care less what your avatar is or who gets drafted where. I called him a top 3 prospect because he is by most accounts.
And doesn't mean shit...lolKeebler wrote:He was comparing Kwame Brown's size to Cousins size. Which isn't even close.SQ_Crazies wrote: WTF does Kwame Brown have to do with Cousins? Absolutely nothing.
And what bet are you talking about? I didn't know I ever made a bet.
We'll see what Cousins is listed at during the combine but I highly doubt it's 6'11".
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 20, 2010 11:34am
Wow.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
May 20, 2010 12:56pm
I think wall goes number 1.
I'd also like to see gordon heyward go to the Hornets. but I dont think he will.
I'd also like to see gordon heyward go to the Hornets. but I dont think he will.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
May 20, 2010 6:22pm
Evan Turner thinks he should go number 1 because...
From Michael Lee's twitter(Wizards Insider)
From Michael Lee's twitter(Wizards Insider)
http://twitter.com/mrmichaelleeEvan Turner on why he should go No. 1 over John Wall: "Not to be arrogant or cocky, but I won every player of the year award."
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
May 20, 2010 6:35pm
Few more things from various media twitter accounts about DeMarcus Cousins...
-Cousins says hes in at 6'11-290(Jason Jones)
-Cousins had no comment in regards for playing for Calipari in the NBA(Jason Jones)
-Daniel Orton calls Cousins a "big child" and had to pull him away from a fight(Jonathon Givony)Not really a big deal but bigger deal that he says it in front of media at the NBA Combine.
-DeMarcus Cousins says he got "a really good vibe" from Minnesota today and that he thinks they would pick him if he were there at 4(Jonathon Givony)
-Cousins says hes in at 6'11-290(Jason Jones)
-Cousins had no comment in regards for playing for Calipari in the NBA(Jason Jones)
-Daniel Orton calls Cousins a "big child" and had to pull him away from a fight(Jonathon Givony)Not really a big deal but bigger deal that he says it in front of media at the NBA Combine.
-DeMarcus Cousins says he got "a really good vibe" from Minnesota today and that he thinks they would pick him if he were there at 4(Jonathon Givony)
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
May 21, 2010 10:06pm
Read this and tell me Cousins was "dominated" by Favors in their head to head match-up.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Battle-In-Birmingham--DeMarcus-Cousins-vs-Derrick-Favors-3083/
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Battle-In-Birmingham--DeMarcus-Cousins-vs-Derrick-Favors-3083/
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
May 22, 2010 9:06am
SURVEY SAYS...lhslep134 wrote: If you're so sure Cousins is going top 3 SQ then make the bet.
Because I'm willing to bet he doesn't.
And Keebler, he's listed at 6'9.5", and I'm willing to bet at the combine he's listed at something closer to that than closer to 6'11".
A lot of guys seem to lose some of their media guide heights when they go to the combine.
Wrong..
6'10.75"
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 22, 2010 1:50pm
Well lhs, you've been the model of brilliance on this thread haven't you...
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
May 22, 2010 7:29pm
To be fair.. that's with shoes. Without them, lep is actually right.Keebler wrote:SURVEY SAYS...lhslep134 wrote: If you're so sure Cousins is going top 3 SQ then make the bet.
Because I'm willing to bet he doesn't.
And Keebler, he's listed at 6'9.5", and I'm willing to bet at the combine he's listed at something closer to that than closer to 6'11".
A lot of guys seem to lose some of their media guide heights when they go to the combine.
Wrong..
6'10.75"
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
May 22, 2010 7:36pm
How often does he play barefoot?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 22, 2010 7:46pm
Never.GOONx19 wrote: How often does he play barefoot?
But I wasn't referring to his height with shoes, I was referring to his height, which was not 6'11". It was 6'9.5"
http://www.nbadraft.net/2010-nba-draft-combine-official-measurements
When you get measured at the doctors, is your height measured with or without shoes? Without.
Therefore, I was right, just like I thought I'd be.
SQ, eat my nutsack.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 22, 2010 7:48pm
The part where:Azubuike24 wrote: Read this and tell me Cousins was "dominated" by Favors in their head to head match-up.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Battle-In-Birmingham--DeMarcus-Cousins-vs-Derrick-Favors-3083/
Favors: 39 pts 16 rebounds
Cousins: 21 pts 11 rebounds
That part.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
May 22, 2010 8:32pm
Did you watch the game? I remember the game. There wasn't any domination. It was...Favors had to carry the team to stay in it.
Much like Brandon Knight had to do when he played a far better team and Austin Rivers.
Then again, I can see you just going off stats.
Much like Brandon Knight had to do when he played a far better team and Austin Rivers.
Then again, I can see you just going off stats.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
May 24, 2010 8:53am
I've never played basketball barefoot. I don't think anyone has.jpake1 wrote:To be fair.. that's with shoes. Without them, lep is actually right.Keebler wrote:SURVEY SAYS...lhslep134 wrote: If you're so sure Cousins is going top 3 SQ then make the bet.
Because I'm willing to bet he doesn't.
And Keebler, he's listed at 6'9.5", and I'm willing to bet at the combine he's listed at something closer to that than closer to 6'11".
A lot of guys seem to lose some of their media guide heights when they go to the combine.
Wrong..
6'10.75"
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 24, 2010 9:09am
He's part of this group of basketball genius on this site that thinks they know what they're talking about based on box scores. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.Azubuike24 wrote: Then again, I can see you just going off stats.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
May 24, 2010 9:13am
SQ preaching to others about basketball knowledge = This weeks sign of the apocalypse
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 24, 2010 10:24am
I did watch the majority of the game, I missed the first 10 minutes of it.Azubuike24 wrote: Did you watch the game? I remember the game. There wasn't any domination. It was...Favors had to carry the team to stay in it.
Much like Brandon Knight had to do when he played a far better team and Austin Rivers.
Then again, I can see you just going off stats.
I know that there's a reason Favors HAD to score more, but my point is that if Cousins should have been able to at least neutralize him a little bit instead of allowing 39 and 16, even though there were parts of the game Cousins didn't guard him.
Both will be NBA studs, IMO, but it's going to take Cousins longer because of his mental issues, because there's plenty of cases of big men not being effective at all until they corral their minds.
If you really fail to see the presence of the mental issues, then I can't help but think you're a homer.
And Dynasty, LOLLOLOLOLOL I know.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 24, 2010 10:29am
How can you say that about something that has no objective, sure-fire reasoning and make inferences about someone based off of it?lhslep134 wrote: Both will be NBA studs, IMO, but it's going to take Cousins longer because of his mental issues. If you really fail to see that, then I can't help but think you're a homer
That's like me saying "The Phillies are going to win the World Series..if you dont see that, you are inept"
There is nothing that can prove that Cousins will be slowed by his mental issues, so azu's prediction is as good as yours.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 24, 2010 10:30am
It had more to do with the presence of mental issue, something AZU discounted earlier in the thread. I'll re-phrase my original post, because you're right.SportsAndLady wrote:How can you say that about something that has no objective, sure-fire reasoning and make inferences about someone based off of it?lhslep134 wrote: Both will be NBA studs, IMO, but it's going to take Cousins longer because of his mental issues. If you really fail to see that, then I can't help but think you're a homer
That's like me saying "The Phillies are going to win the World Series..if you dont see that, you are inept"
There is nothing that can prove that Cousins will be slowed by his mental issues, so azu's prediction is as good as yours.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
May 24, 2010 10:31am
Yea, I agree with that. No one knows at this point whether Cousins will have problems mentally. Is he more likely than Derrick Favors, yes, I think you have to admit that. But I think things were blown out of proportion last year at UK.
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
May 24, 2010 3:28pm
Per ESPN Insider:
Just thought that was interesting after reading this thread.Georgia Tech's Derrick Favors also got a boost from the measurements. He's a legit 6-foot-10, has a 7-2 wingspan and a 9-2 standing reach. Those numbers are actually very close to Dwight Howard and better than the Atlanta Hawks' Al Horford. If Favors projects as a center in the NBA, he too could get some strong consideration with the No. 2 pick.
"Favors doesn't have the offensive game that DeMarcus Cousins has," another GM told me. "But he's a better athlete, a better defender and when the two of them met head-to-head in high school, Favors kicked Cousins' butt. Had he got going earlier at Georgia Tech, he could've been, probably should've been, the No. 1 pick."
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 24, 2010 7:35pm
Dat dude,
you have to realize that everyone on here is much smarter than ESPN, especially when ESPN cites GM's criticism and notes of a player.
God forbid I post an opinion that I shared after watching that game, the same opinion ESPN held, only to be told it was wrong by a UK homer.
you have to realize that everyone on here is much smarter than ESPN, especially when ESPN cites GM's criticism and notes of a player.
God forbid I post an opinion that I shared after watching that game, the same opinion ESPN held, only to be told it was wrong by a UK homer.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 24, 2010 7:57pm
You have to realize that ONE matchup in HIGH SCHOOL doesn't really mean shit.