GoPens
Posts: 2,339
May 18, 2010 4:15pm
If this were any other young adult speaking of the problems of teenage pregnancy they wouldn't be milking it for 30K either.jmog wrote: The problem some of you have is her last name, not her background and speaking topics.
If this were any other young adult speaking on the problems of teenage pregnancy and promoting abstinence based on her own struggles/problems, you would cheer for her strong character at overcoming the odds and helping other young girls avoid the same mistakes.
You know it, I know it.
You know it, and I know it.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
May 18, 2010 4:23pm
She should if she can milk it for what its worth if an idiot is going to pay it. I could sit here and make those demands as well, they are the idiots if they are going to pay it!
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mattinctown
May 18, 2010 4:28pm
I agree that she should milk this for all it's worth, but you could grab someone off the street and have her speak, you wouldn't have to pay that kind of lettuce, it's all about her name 
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
May 18, 2010 4:28pm
I think she will have a pretty hard time getting that much, but you never know. There is definitely something to be said for hearing from both those who have suffered the consequences of their actions and those who made the decision not to take the actions. Some will be influenced by the former, some the latter, some both and some neither. As others have said, ultimately the market will determine if Bristol Palin's perspective on abstinance is relevant and valuable. I wish her well.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 18, 2010 4:32pm
I can't wait for the day her son asks mommy what she does for a living.
"Well, Trippity-doo-da, I do what your grandma taught me: I got a gimmick."
"A gimmick? What does that mean?"
"It means that I get people to pay me obscene amounts of money to talk about things I know nothing about, desperately ignoring the cognitive dissonance of saying that I love my son but that I really shouldn't have had him."
"...what?"
"AND I keep my clothes on while doing it, unlike a certain mulleted sperm donor I know."
"Well, Mommy, in keeping with the family business of famewhoring, I can't wait to grow up and write a book about you and Grandma."
"That's my boy."
"Well, Trippity-doo-da, I do what your grandma taught me: I got a gimmick."
"A gimmick? What does that mean?"
"It means that I get people to pay me obscene amounts of money to talk about things I know nothing about, desperately ignoring the cognitive dissonance of saying that I love my son but that I really shouldn't have had him."
"...what?"
"AND I keep my clothes on while doing it, unlike a certain mulleted sperm donor I know."
"Well, Mommy, in keeping with the family business of famewhoring, I can't wait to grow up and write a book about you and Grandma."
"That's my boy."
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
May 18, 2010 4:33pm
$15,000 for a public figure(a celebrity if you will) to give speeches is not a lot of money. In fact, I would bet it is on the low end of the norm. I recall seeing where Lou Holtz used to command high six figures for his public speaking engagements.
Just to show I am not talking out of my arse, I did a very cursory google search. I found several articles that confirmed by suspicions. Here is an example of one. Note, this article states a typical range for a celebrity is anywhere from $15,000-115,000 a gig.
As someone else noted, the biggest beef people have with this figure is the name of the person giving the speeches.
http://www.bradmontgomery.com/after-you-have-decided/speakers-rates/
Just to show I am not talking out of my arse, I did a very cursory google search. I found several articles that confirmed by suspicions. Here is an example of one. Note, this article states a typical range for a celebrity is anywhere from $15,000-115,000 a gig.
As someone else noted, the biggest beef people have with this figure is the name of the person giving the speeches.
http://www.bradmontgomery.com/after-you-have-decided/speakers-rates/
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
May 18, 2010 4:36pm
I Wear Pants wrote: I can't wait for the day her son asks mommy what she does for a living.
"Well, Trippity-doo-da, I do what your grandma taught me: I got a gimmick."
"A gimmick? What does that mean?"
"It means that I get people to pay me obscene amounts of money to talk about things I know nothing about, desperately ignoring the cognitive dissonance of saying that I love my son but that I really shouldn't have had him."
"...what?"
"AND I keep my clothes on while doing it, unlike a certain mulleted sperm donor I know."
"Well, Mommy, in keeping with the family business of famewhoring, I can't wait to grow up and write a book about you and Grandma."
"That's my boy."
Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
May 18, 2010 4:50pm
Lou Holtz is alot more accomplished than Bristol Palin. Both are ridiculous amounts of money for a speaking gig. Some ppl think it's ridiculous for a MLB pitcher to make 5k/pitch. That's somewhat true but that's a very specific skill set that tnot many ppl can do. On the other hand I could grab Marla off the corner after school lets out and she could share her experiences w/ teen pregnancy.
Again, its not Bristols fault for trying to milk this. She learned from her mama.
However, to act like some rich girl with a famous mother is exhibiting some extraordinary amnt of character that should be applauded is a stretch.
Again, its not Bristols fault for trying to milk this. She learned from her mama.
However, to act like some rich girl with a famous mother is exhibiting some extraordinary amnt of character that should be applauded is a stretch.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
May 18, 2010 4:57pm
I agree Lou and Britol are different animals, but the fact remains $15K is a drop in a bucket for a celebrity figure for a speaking gig. Hell, Paris Hilton is a nobody and she gets paid even bigger bucks just show up at night clubs and the like. The fact is people are going to pay more for a celebrity than they will "Marla off the street" because nobody gives a rats ass about "Marla off the street. They would have interest in watching a celebrity. I don't care if a liberal, a conservative, a black guy, a white guy, an latino or a hermaphrodite. It is the way it is. There's really no need to bitch and whine about it just because you have some intense hatred for the Palin family
rookie_j70
Posts: 677
May 18, 2010 6:05pm
diapers are expensive...so i understand
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
May 18, 2010 6:22pm
Exactly...Shes also gotta be able to feed her child. I cant imagine how tough she has it in that household. I hope she gets a ton of offers and is able to live a halfway decent life.rookie_j70 wrote: diapers are expensive...so i understand
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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
May 18, 2010 6:58pm
Haha.
She knew she was going to be in good shape financially when her mother quit on the people of Alaska. She'll be just fine as far as money is concerned because of her mother.
She knew she was going to be in good shape financially when her mother quit on the people of Alaska. She'll be just fine as far as money is concerned because of her mother.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
May 18, 2010 7:15pm
if she's a good enough speaker and delivers a strong enough message(which I think, to the right audience, she may do), then hell give her the money
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
May 18, 2010 7:35pm
There is no doubt some of you are just plain and simple Palin haters. This could be anyone of your daughters! Any of you calling her trash, etc....have daughters? Guess what they could get pregnant too incase you weren't aware. Is your daughter with you 24/7? If not then its more than probably it could happen. I could care less that she is a Palin. Anyone could make this type of demand for whatever service they want to offer. Its up to those that choose the service to pay it or not!
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
May 18, 2010 7:42pm
Not when it comes to being a single mother.Lou Holtz is alot more accomplished than Bristol Palin.
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goldengonzo
Posts: 140
May 18, 2010 7:46pm
I'm in no ways trying to say Bristol Palin has it easy being a teenage mother, but I'd imagine she sure has it better than just about every other teenage mom in this country.Prescott wrote:Not when it comes to being a single mother.Lou Holtz is alot more accomplished than Bristol Palin.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
May 18, 2010 7:49pm
I don't know how hard or difficult Bristol Palin's life as a single is and I don't care.
I am not a Sarah Palin fan, but I find it laughable that she is painted by some to be a total idiot, yet she is marketing herself like someone who knows exactly what they are doing.She is selling books, giving speeches, and making serious bank.
She ain't no dummy.
I am not a Sarah Palin fan, but I find it laughable that she is painted by some to be a total idiot, yet she is marketing herself like someone who knows exactly what they are doing.She is selling books, giving speeches, and making serious bank.
She ain't no dummy.
Stiffman
Posts: 512
May 18, 2010 7:55pm
Like it or not, her name is the draw. She was on the public stage for her pregnancy and is well known. People want to hear what she's doing now and how she's making it. Of course the speaking fees help her to make it by comfortably, but I applaud her for taking the initiative to do this. Many wouldn't do it out of fear of speaking and fear of ridicule. You think it's that easy to get on stage and know that there are people there to see you fail - not as many as the genuine people there to hear you speak, but they are there. I'm not a Palin fan or supporter one bit, but I don't knock this. She has a story to tell and it's one better told by someone who's family was in the highest of spotlights only to have it shine on the darkest of situations. Instead of despair and failure, she can speak of fortitude and perseverance.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
May 18, 2010 7:59pm
bases_loaded wrote: Who knows more about the importance of abstinence than a teenage single mother? Not the same at all Lad
If anything she's a poster child for how teen abstinence isn't a great path...bases_loaded wrote:And I would counter argue facing the consequences is stronger evidence than a belief. You can have a parade of Bible thumpers on stage and kids will make fun of them, you put a single teen mother up there and they not only relate but they listen. Do you have a problem with the amount of money she is getting paid or her last name?Strapping Young Lad wrote:ummmm, I could argue some young adults who have overcome the struggles of remaining abstinent despite the pressures from society and within their own bodies????bases_loaded wrote: Who knows more about the importance of abstinence than a teenage single mother? Not the same at all Lad
She was obviously raised in an environment that exhorts those virtues... but she thought otherwise. Maybe if she was properly educated about practicing safe sex she wouldn't have a baby.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
May 18, 2010 8:06pm
Snooki makes that just for going to some bar and getting drunk.
And a fun note, the girl that goes out and does cartwheels in a dress with no underwear is the one that DOESN'T have the illegitimate child.
The lesson: Snooki > Bristol
And a fun note, the girl that goes out and does cartwheels in a dress with no underwear is the one that DOESN'T have the illegitimate child.
The lesson: Snooki > Bristol
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assumption
Posts: 147
May 18, 2010 8:14pm
Consequences !!?? I know a few gals who could tell the same story. Only her LAST name made her the big bucks. She's just doubling her pleasure.Fab1b wrote: Well let me ask you this then, concerning that subject would you rather hear it from someone who has never had to experience the consequences of that action or someone who has?
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
May 18, 2010 8:24pm
Well yeah, that's a no-brainer. Shit, giving speeches for cash is cool and all, but I'd rather get cash for getting idiot-plastered!2kool4skool wrote: Snooki makes that just for going to some bar and getting drunk.
And a fun note, the girl that goes out and does cartwheels in a dress with no underwear is the one that DOESN'T have the illegitimate child.
The lesson: Snooki > Bristol
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
May 18, 2010 8:32pm
You are correct, but the last time I woke up I was in America. A country that thrives on celebrity and popularity. Bristol has the right last name so she will get the attention, the others won't. Same in every walk of like in this country pretty much. Oh same in Corp. America, it’s all about who you know. Who cares anyways. Like someone else pointed out people get paid shitloads of cash for speaking engagements all the time, most famous as well. If someone is dumb enough to pay it that is their freaking problem.assumption wrote:Consequences !!?? I know a few gals who could tell the same story. Only her LAST name made her the big bucks. She's just doubling her pleasure.Fab1b wrote: Well let me ask you this then, concerning that subject would you rather hear it from someone who has never had to experience the consequences of that action or someone who has?
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
May 18, 2010 11:43pm
I agree that the problem here lies in the girl's last name and hatred for her mother. It's pretty simple.
I for one hope we hear more speeches by Palins in the future and less from our current president. Hopefully, once November of 2010 passes, he will be on the path to his way out.
I for one hope we hear more speeches by Palins in the future and less from our current president. Hopefully, once November of 2010 passes, he will be on the path to his way out.
rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
May 18, 2010 11:51pm
All of them need to shut the fuck up and go away!reclegend22 wrote: I agree that the problem here lies in the girl's last name and hatred for her mother. It's pretty simple.
I for one hope we hear more speeches by Palins in the future and less from our current president. Hopefully, once November of 2010 passes, he will be on the path to his way out.