Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Nov 22, 2009 10:49pm
I have no regrets……..sad memories and wonderful thoughts, hurts and pains but also joy and satisfaction, great experiences and bad facts of reality.........
I would not trade my military life and everything that happen for anything ……
I would do it again
I would not trade my military life and everything that happen for anything ……
I would do it again
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Nov 22, 2009 10:59pm
Glory Days wrote:
Isnt broken in Israel. and the majority of training for basic and jobs specific training takes less than a year. i would say very few jobs take specialty training that last longer. i am pretty sure in the army, unless you are going to be a helicopter pilot, that is the only training that takes longer.
I don't think you can compare Israel to the United States though GD. I don't think it is possible to say that the U.S. is a free nation if you force people to serve in the military (even if 2 years). You can't force people to serve and not let them have a choice and then consider our nation a nation of liberty and freedom IMO.Glory Days wrote: yeah, but someone who is drafted wouldnt be in for a career, and wouldnt be given jobs where they need career training. they would be sent to combat units or work in supply, not small specialized units that need a lot of training. they wouldnt take someone who was drafted and make them a full up medic or a pilot.
salto
Posts: 2,611
Dec 31, 2009 1:22pm
Dug this old thread up.....if your profile is an indication...you are a junior grade officer that is 26 years old. That makes you a junior Capt.....trust me you don't have a clue about the military of today, and the fact that you think you do, scares me.Glory Days wrote:trust me, i have a grasp on the military of today.salto wrote: Sorry, but I don't think you have a real grasp on the U.S. military of today. What is a "full-up" medic? All medic's in the Air Force are trained to a certain level. That is they all require the initial training that brings them to a little more than a year of training. It takes that long to attain the skill and knowledge level adequate for routine medical/corpsman proficiency. That comes nowhere near the additional training required of the Critical Care medic, and doesn't even scrape the surface of the training required for Army and Navy Combat Medic's. Just so you know, the military does not skimp on training just to rush troops into action. They may have condensed some of that training into a smaller time frame in the past, but we have the best trained force in the world for a reason. Training is never minimized or shortened in substance to fill a tasking requirement.
In years past some positions may have been menial, requiring less training. As I stated earlier, that is not the case in today's military. The weapons system are much more technically demanding than those in the past. One reason the U.S. has suffered so relatively few casualties in the two on-going campaigns is the technical advantage of our weapons system and just as importantly the proficiency, knowledge and skill of our forces. There's more to it than just handing out rifles and pointing them in the right direction.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Dec 31, 2009 2:39pm
The only regret of my life thus far is that it does not include any military service.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Dec 31, 2009 2:41pm
Ya, you told us in post #32Con_Alma wrote: The only regret of my life thus far is that it does not include any military service.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Dec 31, 2009 2:42pm
...said I would change it not that I regretted it.
End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Dec 31, 2009 7:57pm
Yes and No.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Jan 1, 2010 6:47am
haha ok, because i was an officer?salto wrote: Dug this old thread up.....if your profile is an indication...you are a junior grade officer that is 26 years old. That makes you a junior Capt.....trust me you don't have a clue about the military of today, and the fact that you think you do, scares me.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 1, 2010 7:07am
Salto and Glory Days,
Gents...As someone who spent a little time in both the Army and the Air Force I respect both of you for your service but please stop the "you ain't gotta clue" stuff.
- "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." General Patton
Gents...As someone who spent a little time in both the Army and the Air Force I respect both of you for your service but please stop the "you ain't gotta clue" stuff.
- "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." General Patton
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trackandccrunner
Posts: 1,283
Jan 1, 2010 8:58am
I kinda do regret not doing it. I still think about going into the Navy or Army now. I really wish I would have gone into the Navy when I graduated high school like I was heavily considering.
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Gobuckeyes1
Posts: 497
Jan 1, 2010 9:45am
Sometimes I do regret it, especially after seeing so many members of my family who either were or are currently in the military.
I'll still go if the shit really hits the fan and I am called on, though...
I'll still go if the shit really hits the fan and I am called on, though...
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Jan 1, 2010 1:16pm
trackandccrunner wrote: I kinda do regret not doing it. I still think about going into the Navy or Army now. I really wish I would have gone into the Navy when I graduated high school like I was heavily considering.
Join the Navy. I don't know how old you are but you have until your 35th birthday to go to boot camp for active duty. I know I was late in joining at 29, but I knew if I didn't do it, it would bother me the rest of my life. There are a lot of people older than me in my barracks so age is nothing.
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jm71witmr
Posts: 85
Jan 1, 2010 1:54pm
Never has bothered me.
I was #99 in the last draft lottery during Vietnam and was never called. If called would have enlisted in navy.
I was #99 in the last draft lottery during Vietnam and was never called. If called would have enlisted in navy.
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trackandccrunner
Posts: 1,283
Jan 1, 2010 1:55pm
I'm 23 and I would go but can't right now due to a law I broke and plus the first time I didnt do it because my mom didn't want me too and I doubt she does now.Ytowngirlinfla wrote:
Join the Navy. I don't know how old you are but you have until your 35th birthday to go to boot camp for active duty. I know I was late in joining at 29, but I knew if I didn't do it, it would bother me the rest of my life. There are a lot of people older than me in my barracks so age is nothing.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Jan 5, 2010 6:12pm
I regret getting out....I was in for just over 5 years, and miss it everyday....but I do love seeing my son and fiance every day.
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eersandbeers
Posts: 1,071
Jan 5, 2010 8:15pm
Glory Days wrote:haha ok, because i was an officer?salto wrote: Dug this old thread up.....if your profile is an indication...you are a junior grade officer that is 26 years old. That makes you a junior Capt.....trust me you don't have a clue about the military of today, and the fact that you think you do, scares me.
Well that answers a lot of questions about you.
I'm assuming that since you are a 26 year old Captain you went straight officer and didn't serve any time as enlisted. If that is the case then yes, you are clueless.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Jan 5, 2010 8:42pm
if you think i am a stereotypical officer then you are both sadly mistaken.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 7, 2010 12:37pm
There are alot of waivers out there to many of infractions. Quite possible it wouldnt be a big deal..trackandccrunner wrote:I'm 23 and I would go but can't right now due to a law I broke and plus the first time I didnt do it because my mom didn't want me too and I doubt she does now.Ytowngirlinfla wrote:
Join the Navy. I don't know how old you are but you have until your 35th birthday to go to boot camp for active duty. I know I was late in joining at 29, but I knew if I didn't do it, it would bother me the rest of my life. There are a lot of people older than me in my barracks so age is nothing.
Would stink if your mom wouldnt want ya to join, but ultimately it should be the choice of the individual enlisting.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Jan 7, 2010 12:53pm
The hell with all OFFICERS!!!! They think they are the shit and take all the credit, for everything us Grunts do....You can all take your Bachelors Degree and shove it up your ass...Only officer I liked are what us Marine Grunts call "A Mustang"...Pryor enlisted....The reason I say so is because they were with us one day while we were kicking in doors in Iraq and Afghan. Unlike like your bitch ass officer who is hiding in the Hum-V hoping his boys see combat so he can take credit and wear the Combat Action Ribbon..
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trackandccrunner
Posts: 1,283
Jan 7, 2010 12:54pm
Its not that she wont let me join she just kinda guilted me into not going when I turned 18(Im her only son). And I don't think there is a waiver that could help me but maybe once I get my stuff situated I'll talk to a recruiter.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jan 7, 2010 12:55pm
Honestly, no.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 7, 2010 12:59pm
Well of course I dont know what the infraction was, nor am I asking or seeking to know, just stating there are waivers for alot of things.trackandccrunner wrote: Its not that she wont let me join she just kinda guilted me into not going when I turned 18(Im her only son). And I don't think there is a waiver that could help me but maybe once I get my stuff situated I'll talk to a recruiter.
Goodluck in whatever ya choose.
BuckeyeBlue
Posts: 561
Jan 7, 2010 1:15pm
When I joined the recruiters really helped ease my parents minds. The recruiter was more than willing to sit down and answer all of my parents' questions.trackandccrunner wrote: Its not that she wont let me join she just kinda guilted me into not going when I turned 18(Im her only son). And I don't think there is a waiver that could help me but maybe once I get my stuff situated I'll talk to a recruiter.
Like thavoice said, the military is willing to grant a waiver for just about any infraction. As long as you're not trying to get multiple (3+) waivers, you're usually fine.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Jan 7, 2010 1:23pm
I had this discussion with the girlfriend/baby mama the other night. I told her if I was ever to be unemployed again I would enlist in a branch. Now that I have to provide for the three of us, I cannot afford to be out of work nor will I sit on my bottom waiting on a job forever. I don't have a branch of preference.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Jan 7, 2010 1:30pm
TC send me a pm if you don't mind, I have a few friends that are Navy recruiters and I can find out for you if it's a waiverable offense. Also my family didn't necessarily want me to join the military but I know they are very proud of me, especially after boot camp graduation.trackandccrunner wrote: Its not that she wont let me join she just kinda guilted me into not going when I turned 18(Im her only son). And I don't think there is a waiver that could help me but maybe once I get my stuff situated I'll talk to a recruiter.