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charliehustle14
Posts: 2,224
Nov 20, 2009 2:43pm
Spiller is tough. He's going to be huge at the next level. I look for him to have a Percy Harvin type impact as a rookie for whatever team he ends up with.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Nov 20, 2009 4:05pm
Fail-Bring some numbers next time to back up that nonsense.Elliot Stabler wrote: ^^^
Just like when Archie won his 2nd too
As long as you're inserting Archie into the conversation, he could've easily won it his sophomore year as well. Might as well give it to him this year too if people are considering Tebow.
osudarby08
Posts: 734
Nov 20, 2009 4:52pm
this.darbypitcher22 wrote: When you have Thom Brenneman and Charles White calling a BCS game, there's a problem
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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Nov 20, 2009 5:34pm
Vball10set wrote:I guess this site needs trolls too...do you have stats supporting Archie not deserving this award,or are you just blowing hot air--again :@Elliot Stabler wrote: ^^^
Just like when Archie won his 2nd too
1973jhay78 wrote:Fail-Bring some numbers next time to back up that nonsense.Elliot Stabler wrote: ^^^
Just like when Archie won his 2nd too
As long as you're inserting Archie into the conversation, he could've easily won it his sophomore year as well. Might as well give it to him this year too if people are considering Tebow.
John Cappelletti 1,522 yds 17 TD's Also played Defensive back
Archie Griffin 1,577 yds 13 TD's
1975
Archie Griffin 1,357 yds 4TD's
Chuck Muncie 1,477 yds 12 TD's
Ricky Bell 1,875 yds 14 TD's
Bell or Muncie should have won in '75 over Archie. It's not even really close
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Nov 20, 2009 5:46pm
How did this happen? Team success?Elliot Stabler wrote:Vball10set wrote:I guess this site needs trolls too...do you have stats supporting Archie not deserving this award,or are you just blowing hot air--again :@Elliot Stabler wrote: ^^^
Just like when Archie won his 2nd too1973jhay78 wrote:Fail-Bring some numbers next time to back up that nonsense.Elliot Stabler wrote: ^^^
Just like when Archie won his 2nd too
As long as you're inserting Archie into the conversation, he could've easily won it his sophomore year as well. Might as well give it to him this year too if people are considering Tebow.
John Cappelletti 1,522 yds 17 TD's Also played Defensive back
Archie Griffin 1,577 yds 13 TD's
1975
Archie Griffin 1,357 yds 4TD's
Chuck Muncie 1,477 yds 12 TD's
Ricky Bell 1,875 yds 14 TD's
Bell or Muncie should have won in '75 over Archie. It's not even really close
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Nov 20, 2009 6:03pm
I believe OSU went to their FB a majority of the time close to the goal line which took away Archie's TD total. He still carried the team which was a reason he was selected.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Nov 21, 2009 9:29am
Todd McShay knows as much about football as I do nuclear engineering.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 21, 2009 9:36am
I would love to see Spiller win it! He's a hell of a football player!!
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George Costanza
Posts: 120
Nov 21, 2009 2:58pm
Lets be honest guys, Archie really didnt deserve the 2nd Heisman.
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George Costanza
Posts: 120
Nov 21, 2009 3:01pm
Tebow had 317 total yards and 3 total TD's today in just over a half of action
Ingram had 107 rushing yards and 2 TD's in a half of action today.
Gerhart can really make an impact tonight on a national level with another monster game against CAL
Ingram had 107 rushing yards and 2 TD's in a half of action today.
Gerhart can really make an impact tonight on a national level with another monster game against CAL
BuckeyeBlue
Posts: 561
Nov 21, 2009 3:12pm
I would say the top 3 right now are probably Ingram, McCoy, and Spiller. All 3 have had very good seasons. Tebow definitely hasn't lived up to his last 2 seasons.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 22, 2009 12:18am
Gerhart had 20 rushes for 136 yards and 4TDs in a loss to Cal. Despite the loss, he made a huge statement in my opinion.
Colt McCoy made a big move also...32-41 for 396 yards and 4 TDs.
Colt McCoy made a big move also...32-41 for 396 yards and 4 TDs.
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Elliot Stabler
Posts: 388
Nov 22, 2009 12:20am
Atleast they were 1-A. Bama played a 1-AAccrunner609 wrote: Dont stain this thread with Tebow stats today.......he played a JV team.
After Today:
1.Tim Tebow
2.Colt McCoy
3.Mark Ingrahm
4.Toby Gerhart
5.Kellen Moore
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Nov 22, 2009 12:22am
McCoy jumped into the lead today with his huge performance. 400+ total yards, 78% completion. Against a somewhat decent team unlike Florida and Bama.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 22, 2009 12:38am
Everybody has played bad teams at one point or another in the season. Why is what Florida and Alabama did today discounted, but Texas playing Wyoming gets a pass now?
Why is today any different?
Why is today any different?
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Nov 22, 2009 12:44am
Because its getting later into the year imo and the later performances stay with the voters more I would think. If the voting ended today, I'd rather be playing a BCS conference opponent.jordo212000 wrote: Everybody has played bad teams at one point or another in the season. Why is what Florida and Alabama did today discounted, but Texas playing Wyoming gets a pass now?
Why is today any different?
Its basically setting up for a player to make the huge move come Conf. Championship time. McCoy, Tebow, Ingram, and Spiller will all be playing late in the season against good competition.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 22, 2009 12:47am
I really don't see any difference. Not everybody has the same schedule and bye weeks. There's a chance that this was one of their few weeks for an out of conference team and everybody else is in conference, thus voila you end up playing a sacrificial lamb.devil1197 wrote:
Because its getting later into the year imo and the later performances stay with the voters more I would think. If the voting ended today, I'd rather be playing a BCS conference opponent.
Its basically setting up for a player to make the huge move come Conf. Championship time. McCoy, Tebow, Ingram, and Spiller will all be playing late in the season against good competition.
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George Costanza
Posts: 120
Nov 22, 2009 1:42pm
Tebow, Gerhart and McCoy had the best games yesterday of the contenders at this point.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Nov 22, 2009 1:44pm
There isn't any difference scheduling wise correct, but the voters will look at a later performance against a BCS school more closely than a performance against a crappy FIU team.jordo212000 wrote:I really don't see any difference. Not everybody has the same schedule and bye weeks. There's a chance that this was one of their few weeks for an out of conference team and everybody else is in conference, thus voila you end up playing a sacrificial lamb.devil1197 wrote:
Because its getting later into the year imo and the later performances stay with the voters more I would think. If the voting ended today, I'd rather be playing a BCS conference opponent.
Its basically setting up for a player to make the huge move come Conf. Championship time. McCoy, Tebow, Ingram, and Spiller will all be playing late in the season against good competition.
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trep14
Posts: 842
Nov 22, 2009 1:49pm
I think it is pretty clear that people on here just really don't like the SEC and will grasp at any straws to discredit them.jordo212000 wrote:I really don't see any difference. Not everybody has the same schedule and bye weeks. There's a chance that this was one of their few weeks for an out of conference team and everybody else is in conference, thus voila you end up playing a sacrificial lamb.devil1197 wrote:
Because its getting later into the year imo and the later performances stay with the voters more I would think. If the voting ended today, I'd rather be playing a BCS conference opponent.
Its basically setting up for a player to make the huge move come Conf. Championship time. McCoy, Tebow, Ingram, and Spiller will all be playing late in the season against good competition.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Nov 22, 2009 3:05pm
I actually like the SEC, Bama is my 2nd favorite team.trep14 wrote:I think it is pretty clear that people on here just really don't like the SEC and will grasp at any straws to discredit them.jordo212000 wrote:I really don't see any difference. Not everybody has the same schedule and bye weeks. There's a chance that this was one of their few weeks for an out of conference team and everybody else is in conference, thus voila you end up playing a sacrificial lamb.devil1197 wrote:
Because its getting later into the year imo and the later performances stay with the voters more I would think. If the voting ended today, I'd rather be playing a BCS conference opponent.
Its basically setting up for a player to make the huge move come Conf. Championship time. McCoy, Tebow, Ingram, and Spiller will all be playing late in the season against good competition.
But wouldn't you, as a Heisman candidate, want to play better competition later in the year? Its only logical that voters remember the latest games in the year? Every team plays cupcakes but I'd much rather get them out of the way but I know with the SEC schedule its hard to do.
This is nothing against any conference, I'd say the same thing if Spiller and Clemson were playing Middle TN this past week instead of Week 1.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 26, 2009 11:44pm
Colt McCoy vs. Texas A&M
24-40 for 304 yards and 4 TDs
18 carries for 175 yards and a TD
Gotta be the front runner for the Heisman right now.
24-40 for 304 yards and 4 TDs
18 carries for 175 yards and a TD
Gotta be the front runner for the Heisman right now.
ohiotiger33
Posts: 1,500
Nov 26, 2009 11:52pm
Wow what a game by McCoy. He may have wrapped it up. i still would like Spiller to play hard and get an invite to New York.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 27, 2009 11:05pm
Mark Ingram vs. Auburn
16 carries for 30 yards
3 catches for 21 yards
Ingram's Heisman chances took a MAJOR hit today.
16 carries for 30 yards
3 catches for 21 yards
Ingram's Heisman chances took a MAJOR hit today.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Nov 27, 2009 11:08pm
Its Colt's to lose.