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May 22, 2010 12:37 PM
I still prefer the flashy yet fundamental style of the mighty USA's 4-4-2 attack.



/sarcasm
May 22, 2010 12:37pm
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May 22, 2010 12:45 PM
May 22, 2010 12:45pm
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May 25, 2010 11:56 PM
looking at the groups...i would think clearly Group G is the most stacked with Port, Brazil, and Cote d'voire...
followed by Group C with the US and England.

the interesting thing is, for Germany, despite the loss of Ballack, they are clear favorites to come out of Group D as the 1.

Realistically, in my opinion the 16 should be France, Mexico, Argentina, Nigeria, England, US, Germany, Ghana, Camaroon, Netherlands, Italy, Paraguay, Brazil, Portugal, Spain, Suiss....although the injustice is that a very talented Ivory Coast squad is left watching. Just the luck of the draw.

Clearly the top 4 are Spain, Argentina, Netherlands, and possibly England or Brazil for the last spot. Whether it turns out this way has a lot to do with the first round......

can't wait.
May 25, 2010 11:56pm
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May 26, 2010 1:22 PM
The 23-man US Roster:

Goalkeepers- Tim Howard, Marcus Hahnemann, Brad Guzan

Defenders- Carlos Bocanegra, Oguchi Onyewu, Jay DeMerit, Steve Cherundolo, Jonathan Spector, Clarence Goodson, Jonathan Bornstein

Midfielders- Landon Donovan, Michael Bradley, Stuart Holden, Maurice Edu, Ricardo Clark, DaMarcus Beasley, Benny Feilhaber, Jose Francisco Torres

Forwards- Clint Dempsey, Jozy Altidore, Herculez Gomez, Edson Buddle, Robbie Findley

http://preview.ussoccer.com/News/Mens-National-Team/2010/05/US-Head-Coach-Bob-Bradley-Names-23-Players-to-Represent-the-US-at-the-2010-FIFA-World-Cup.aspx
May 26, 2010 1:22pm
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May 26, 2010 1:24 PM
That's right kids, no Brian Ching in sight. Surprised to see Robbie made it.
May 26, 2010 1:24pm
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May 26, 2010 1:32 PM
I like everyone but finley and bornstein I would prefer pierce and robbie Rodgers
May 26, 2010 1:32pm
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May 26, 2010 1:36 PM
Edson Buddle???

Really???

Laziest forward in the history of the entire world.
May 26, 2010 1:36pm
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May 26, 2010 1:37 PM
cya ching, about time bradley realized what a shitfuck he is on the field.
May 26, 2010 1:37pm
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May 26, 2010 1:40 PM
DeyDurkie5 wrote: cya ching, about time bradley realized what a shitfuck he is on the field.
So excited that Ching is off the squad.
May 26, 2010 1:40pm
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May 26, 2010 2:04 PM
Greatest day in the history of US soccer. No Brian Ching!!!

As for Buddle, he has been in GREAT form for the Galaxy. COuldnt leave off a guy who is putting in golas liek that.
May 26, 2010 2:04pm
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May 26, 2010 2:12 PM
So from that group, who's your starting 11?

Howard
Bocanegra, Onyewu, DeMerit, Spector
Donovan, Bradley, Clark, ... Holden?
Dempsey, Altidore

Gomez is the first sub off the bench for offense.
May 26, 2010 2:12pm
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May 26, 2010 2:28 PM
I think the best midfield group would go Donovan, Bradley, Clark and Dempsey. If you want to deploy Dempsey as a second striker in lieu of Buddle or Gomez then the 4th midfielder should be Benny Feilhaber. I know he usually plays a more central role but with two more defensive minded players in the middle of the pitch you need another attacking option and with Dempsey up front I think Feilhaber is the next best option. He won't score a ton of goals I think he can still orchestrate things and create chances even from a wider position.
May 26, 2010 2:28pm
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May 26, 2010 2:31 PM
I just have a feeling after his success up top in the Confed Cup, Dempsey will see more time at forward than midfield. If we had Davies, it'd be a no brainer to put him in the midfield and Davies/Altidore up top.
May 26, 2010 2:31pm
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May 26, 2010 2:38 PM
Man I was so happy when I saw Ching wasn't on the squad I actually did a double take to make sure it was true haha.

Gorocks I like that starting 11 but like Feilhaber or Beasley to start instead of Holden.
May 26, 2010 2:38pm
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May 26, 2010 2:41 PM
Yeah, I didn't really know who to put there. Feilhaber is probably a better choice than Holden, I don't think we'll see Beasley start out there even w/ his experience.
May 26, 2010 2:41pm
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May 26, 2010 2:47 PM
I don't think he would start either but I just like him more than Holden haha.
May 26, 2010 2:47pm
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May 26, 2010 3:15 PM
Davies' injury is just the worst...UGH
May 26, 2010 3:15pm
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May 26, 2010 3:25 PM
This is what I'd like to see...

Bocanegra--Onyewu---DeMerit---Spector
Dempsey----Feilhaber----Bradley----Donovan
Altidore-----Buddle or Gomez

I'm undecided on the second forward, but all I know is that I want Dempsey out wide.
May 26, 2010 3:25pm
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May 26, 2010 5:30 PM
Heres what I would do....and I wouldnt NOT move Dempsey or Donovan forward (goRocks, Dempsey wasnt a forward in the confed cup, he was on the wing.)

------------------------Howard------------------------

---Spector-----Onyewu----DeMerit---Bocanegra--

--------------------Bradley----------------------------
------------Clark-----------------Donovan------------
-----Dempsey------------------------------------------

--------------Altidore------------Buddle---------------
May 26, 2010 5:30pm
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May 26, 2010 5:32 PM
Laley23 wrote:goRocks, Dempsey wasnt a forward in the confed cup, he was on the wing.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/worldcup/2010-05-19-clint-dempsey_N.htm
During last summer's Confederations Cup, Dempsey started in the midfield but was moved up to striker when a spark was needed. After the USA opened with two losses, he scored in consecutive matches against Egypt, Spain and Brazil, winning the tournament's Bronze Ball.
Pretty sure he scored all his goals from the forward position.
May 26, 2010 5:32pm
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May 26, 2010 5:59 PM
gorocks99 wrote:
Laley23 wrote:goRocks, Dempsey wasnt a forward in the confed cup, he was on the wing.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/worldcup/2010-05-19-clint-dempsey_N.htm
During last summer's Confederations Cup, Dempsey started in the midfield but was moved up to striker when a spark was needed. After the USA opened with two losses, he scored in consecutive matches against Egypt, Spain and Brazil, winning the tournament's Bronze Ball.
Pretty sure he scored all his goals from the forward position.
Well now that is being quite subjective because they are considering his winger position as forward. He was not playing forward (as a striker) for his goals vs Spain or Brazil. I dont remember where he was for his Egypt goal (the header). But yes, if we are counting his wing position as forward than he should play there, as I diagramed I hope he does on another thread.

But that is like calling Messi a forward when he really isnt. He is more a forward than Dempsey in terms of defensive responsibilities, but not a forward.
May 26, 2010 5:59pm
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May 27, 2010 6:47 PM
Damn sad to see him out. One of my favorite players, at one of my favorite positions. :(
May 27, 2010 6:47pm
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May 27, 2010 7:57 PM
Automatik wrote: Damn sad to see him out. One of my favorite players, at one of my favorite positions. :(
Just watch Ivory Coast to see what the best player at said position has to offer :D:D

Kidding aside, Essien is the best holding mid there is in the game, imo. Just ahead of Yaya Toure (of said Ivory Coast). Very tough blow to Ghana, especially since they had a true shot of advancing. Still, do...but the road is certainly much tougher now.
May 27, 2010 7:57pm
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May 27, 2010 9:00 PM
Tough break for Essien and Ghana.

Side note... it's going to have to be a little awkward for Milovan Rajevac to manage against Serbia in the World Cup.
May 27, 2010 9:00pm