hoops23
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:19pm
                            
                        Nice to see Andy get some recognition, now he needs to suck up his injury and contribute in the playoffs.LeBron James and Anderson Varejao make NBA All-Defensive team
The NBA announced the All-Defensive first team and second team today. LeBron James of the Cleveland Cavaliers made the first team. Anderson Varejao of the Cavaliers made the second team.
The voting panel consisted of the NBA’s 30 head coaches, who were asked to
select NBA All-Defensive First and Second Teams by position. Coaches were
not permitted to vote for players from their own team.
2009-10 NBA ALL-DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAM
Center Dwight Howard, Orlando
Guard Rajon Rondo, Boston
Forward LeBron James, Cleveland
Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers
Forward Gerald Wallace, Charlotte
NBA ALL-DEFENSIVE SECOND TEAM
Center Tim Duncan, San Antonio
Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami
Forward Josh Smith, Atlanta
Forward Anderson Varejao, Cleveland
Guard Thabo Sefolosha, Oklahoma City
wildcats20
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:27pm
                            
                        
                                Can't really argue with it.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:28pm
                            
                        I think it's one of the better ones of the last few seasons.. I was glad to see Thabo and Gerald get some love as well..wildcats20 wrote: Can't really argue with it.
I'm not sure on the Tim Duncan pick though..
                                        
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                                May 5, 2010 9:30pm
                            
                        
                                Kobe a good defensive player?
                            
                        wildcats20
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:30pm
                            
                        
                                Yeah Timmy was the only iffy pick IMO.
But then again, who would take his spot?? I'm guessing it's just a center, 2 forwards, and 2 guards.
                        But then again, who would take his spot?? I'm guessing it's just a center, 2 forwards, and 2 guards.
Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:33pm
                            
                        
                                Id just switch LBJ and Josh Smith
                            
                        Trueblue23
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:35pm
                            
                        
                                I like both teams actually, nice to see Gerald Wallace on there, he def. earned it
                            
                        Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:36pm
                            
                        
                                Yea Gerald Wallace is a freak on D
                            
                        Trueblue23
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:38pm
                            
                        
                                I see this is Duncan's 13th NBA all-defensive team. The most ever. In fact it's two more than Kareem with 11. It's also Kobe's 10th which makes him only the 5th player and the only guard with 10 NBA all-defense selections.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:38pm
                            
                        lol, Josh Smith is a good shot blocker, but so is LeBron.Hb31187 wrote: Id just switch LBJ and Josh Smith
Josh Smith is a good rebounder, but so is LeBron.
Josh Smith is an "ok" at best strong side defender, LeBron is a very good strong side defender.
So nah, I think they got it right.
hoops23
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:38pm
                            
                        Good point, the Center spot is so weak in the NBA, it really is tough to think of anybody else who should have it over Timmy.wildcats20 wrote: Yeah Timmy was the only iffy pick IMO.
But then again, who would take his spot?? I'm guessing it's just a center, 2 forwards, and 2 guards.
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                                May 5, 2010 9:39pm
                            
                        
                                How is he an OK at best strong side defender? Theres no real statistic for that, its all opinion.
And Im not saying LBJ is a bad defender, but Smith is a better rebounder, shot blocker and has just as many steals(I know you cant really use stats to justify defensive team)
                        And Im not saying LBJ is a bad defender, but Smith is a better rebounder, shot blocker and has just as many steals(I know you cant really use stats to justify defensive team)
wildcats20
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:39pm
                            
                        
                                Maybe Noah?? I mean if AV gets a nod, I think Noah should as well.
                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:40pm
                            
                        
                                I may have put Camby over Duncan though.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:42pm
                            
                        Josh Smith is very uninspired when playing defense, aside from blocking shots.Hb31187 wrote: How is he an OK at best strong side defender? Theres no real statistic for that, its all opinion.
And Im not saying LBJ is a bad defender, but Smith is a better rebounder, shot blocker and has just as many steals(I know you cant really use stats to justify defensive team)
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                                May 5, 2010 9:43pm
                            
                        
                                Yeah, I actually think I'd put Noah and Camby over Duncan now as well..
                            
                        Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:43pm
                            
                        ok?LTrain23 wrote:Josh Smith is very uninspired when playing defense, aside from blocking shots.Hb31187 wrote: How is he an OK at best strong side defender? Theres no real statistic for that, its all opinion.
And Im not saying LBJ is a bad defender, but Smith is a better rebounder, shot blocker and has just as many steals(I know you cant really use stats to justify defensive team)
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                                May 5, 2010 9:44pm
                            
                        
                                If you look at what most people consider "defensive stats," Noah trumps AV. And he did it in less games, not that that means all that much.
                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:45pm
                            
                        
                                "Defensive stats" are vastly overrated.
                            
                        Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:46pm
                            
                        Yeah..Its pretty much pure opinionTrueblue23 wrote: "Defensive stats" are vastly overrated.
wildcats20
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:47pm
                            
                        
                                Oh I know, I was just saying. People like to say that Noah is a poor man's Andy, but honestly I think Noah brings a lot more to the table than AV.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:48pm
                            
                        ok? what? That's what this award is for!Hb31187 wrote:ok?LTrain23 wrote:Josh Smith is very uninspired when playing defense, aside from blocking shots.Hb31187 wrote: How is he an OK at best strong side defender? Theres no real statistic for that, its all opinion.
And Im not saying LBJ is a bad defender, but Smith is a better rebounder, shot blocker and has just as many steals(I know you cant really use stats to justify defensive team)
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                                May 5, 2010 9:49pm
                            
                        
                                Im just sayin Ok..bc Idk that sounds like an opinion to me. You dont get on a all defensive team by not playing inspired defense IMO
                            
                        Trueblue23
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:49pm
                            
                        
                                Josh Smith is a terrible on ball defender.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                May 5, 2010 9:49pm
                            
                        He does. He's a much more offensively gifted player, but I still think Andy is a better defender.wildcats20 wrote: Oh I know, I was just saying. People like to say that Noah is a poor man's Andy, but honestly I think Noah brings a lot more to the table than AV.