Heretic
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 3:30am
                            
                        
                                ^^
I don't disagree with that. To me, it's telling that during the regular season, they were probably the #2 team in the West while Karl was on the sideline, but fell to #4 after he had to sideline himself (I believe; if wrong, don't crucify me) and without him in the playoffs, looked pretty inferior to a team with injury problems. I think they're a very talented team, but full of individuals. Dantley was above his head keeping things together. Karl would have done so, at least against the Jazz. I don't think he'd be able to keep them together against the Lakers, but he'd get them to that team. Karl's like Andy Reid...a coach that's great until it REALLY gets real...then things fall apart.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but when he was playing (at least later in his career), didn't Dantley have somewhat of a "high-maintenance" reputation? I have vague, hazy memories of reading that in SI or TSN back when he played. If my memory is correct, he'd probably have the worst personality possible to lead that team.
                        I don't disagree with that. To me, it's telling that during the regular season, they were probably the #2 team in the West while Karl was on the sideline, but fell to #4 after he had to sideline himself (I believe; if wrong, don't crucify me) and without him in the playoffs, looked pretty inferior to a team with injury problems. I think they're a very talented team, but full of individuals. Dantley was above his head keeping things together. Karl would have done so, at least against the Jazz. I don't think he'd be able to keep them together against the Lakers, but he'd get them to that team. Karl's like Andy Reid...a coach that's great until it REALLY gets real...then things fall apart.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but when he was playing (at least later in his career), didn't Dantley have somewhat of a "high-maintenance" reputation? I have vague, hazy memories of reading that in SI or TSN back when he played. If my memory is correct, he'd probably have the worst personality possible to lead that team.
sleeper
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 4:29am
                            
                        
                                Denver sucks, outside of Melo and Billups, pure garbage.
                            
                        Pick6
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 11:07am
                            
                        
                                hb- werent you saying a couple weeks ago denver could win the ship?
                            
                        Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 12:11pm
                            
                        Said could, not enough of a homer to say they had a good chance.Pick6 wrote: hb- werent you saying a couple weeks ago denver could win the ship?
Least I dont think i said that
jordo212000
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 12:22pm
                            
                        
                                Another gag job by the Nuggets. Can't say I am surprised.
                            
                        SQ_Crazies
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 1:44pm
                            
                        
                                They overachieved all year (because I'm with HB, their roster isn't as good as people think it is), but I didn't expect them to lose to the Jazz.  I think Karl being out hurt them big time.
                            
                        SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 1:45pm
                            
                        
                                "Pierce=Melo"
Not sure I agree with that.
                        Not sure I agree with that.
Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 1:48pm
                            
                        
                                ^^
Besides his ring...theyre pretty much the same player
                        Besides his ring...theyre pretty much the same player
SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 1:49pm
                            
                        Melo is much more physical than Pierce, I'd definitely give melo the edge...it is pretty close though.Hb31187 wrote: ^^
Besides his ring...theyre pretty much the same player
                                        
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                                                                JakeGiant
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 1:52pm
                            
                        
                                Denver hasn't been the only pretender the last decade, so no big deal. Plus, outside of last year, they pretty much foil in Postseason, anyways. 
Having said this, I think people are overvaluing Karl. Yes, I'm very sorry he's ill, but he has always been a decent regular season coach(much like Flippard Saunders), but underachieves this time of year. I'm plenty old enough to remember 1994. It was classic, and the 1st time an 8th seed took out a 1.
                        Having said this, I think people are overvaluing Karl. Yes, I'm very sorry he's ill, but he has always been a decent regular season coach(much like Flippard Saunders), but underachieves this time of year. I'm plenty old enough to remember 1994. It was classic, and the 1st time an 8th seed took out a 1.
SQ_Crazies
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 1:55pm
                            
                        
                                I'm not saying Karl is a great coach, but I don't think you're understanding why people are saying they missed him.  If you don't think that had an effect on this series then you're absolutely out of your mind.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                JakeGiant
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 1:58pm
                            
                        
                                Then I guess I'm out of my mind for the reasons I stated in my last post. I've seen Denver, Karl, and other pretenders do this quite bit in the last 10 years(granted, the classic choke job happened 16 years ago).
                            
                        SQ_Crazies
                                                                            
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                                May 1, 2010 1:59pm
                            
                        
                                Yeah, you are.  You're straight up fucking stupid, basically.
Unlike the other thread that you and I were back and forth on, I won't waste time trying to explain why.
                        Unlike the other thread that you and I were back and forth on, I won't waste time trying to explain why.