Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 27, 2010 12:48pm
On 1st and 10 today, they debated it.
The 2 stews picked Pujols
Skip picked Howard, said he's a better hitter in the clutch, and better in the clubhouse.
What say you?
The 2 stews picked Pujols
Skip picked Howard, said he's a better hitter in the clutch, and better in the clubhouse.
What say you?
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Apr 27, 2010 12:55pm
Pujols, for sure.
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Apr 27, 2010 1:01pm
Of course skip picked howard. So predictable.
Pujols for me, no doubt.
Pujols for me, no doubt.
BigAppleBuckeye
Posts: 2,935
Apr 27, 2010 1:07pm
I'll pick whoever Stew doesn't pick. That guy is a puppet hired to ruffle feathers.
Pujols, and it's not even close. He's better at EVERYTHING, no debate here.
Pujols, and it's not even close. He's better at EVERYTHING, no debate here.
stroups
Posts: 3,223
Apr 27, 2010 1:09pm
As a reds fan I would love for Howard and Pujols to switch places
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 27, 2010 1:18pm
What moron would pick Howard?
Pujols is the best player in the league...Howard is maybe top 10, but probably isnt even that good.
Not to mention both are 30, but body type and swing production tend to say Howard will decline sooner and more rapidly.
Pujols is the best player in the league...Howard is maybe top 10, but probably isnt even that good.
Not to mention both are 30, but body type and swing production tend to say Howard will decline sooner and more rapidly.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Apr 27, 2010 1:33pm
Pujols is not only a beast at the plate but he is very good defensively too.
Pujols may go down as the best player ever if he keeps up his production another title.
Pujols may go down as the best player ever if he keeps up his production another title.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 27, 2010 1:34pm
Pujols is younger than Howard and better at every aspect of the game. Pujols by a mile.
I also agree with stroups.
I also agree with stroups.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 27, 2010 1:37pm
Pujols by far.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 27, 2010 1:45pm
Pujols. Better OBP. Strikes out a ton less and walks more.
Listening to Mike & Mike this morning, they were talking about Howard's new contract. They mentioned that Braves manager Bobby Cox was asked how much Pujols should be making (in regard to Howard's new contract) and his answer was a straight faced "$50 million per year."
Listening to Mike & Mike this morning, they were talking about Howard's new contract. They mentioned that Braves manager Bobby Cox was asked how much Pujols should be making (in regard to Howard's new contract) and his answer was a straight faced "$50 million per year."
fiction
Posts: 347
Apr 27, 2010 1:54pm
Pujols, easily, and you can make an argument for a couple other one baggers over Howard.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Apr 27, 2010 1:55pm
There's no debate, it's Pujols, by a mile.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 27, 2010 1:57pm
lol, who picked Ryan Howard?
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 27, 2010 1:59pm
Yep:fiction wrote: Pujols, easily, and you can make an argument for a couple other one baggers over Howard.
1. Pujols
2. Miggy
3. Fielder
4. Teixiera
Those 4 I take over Howard for sure. Others in the discussion but probably fall short
-Morneau
-Gonzalez
-Votto (age)
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 27, 2010 2:09pm
I think skip bayless is a part of the freehuddle nation.LTrain23 wrote: lol, who picked Ryan Howard?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2010 2:57pm
Pujols. Already one of the best ever, if not the greatest ever.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 27, 2010 3:11pm
Sorry...thought it said "Ron" Howard.LTrain23 wrote: lol, who picked Ryan Howard?
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Al Capone
Posts: 1,727
Apr 27, 2010 3:19pm
I'll go with Howard. He has 4 straight seasons of 45 hrs and 135 rbi. They only longer streak belongs to Babe Ruth. The only downfall on Howard is the amount of strikeouts that he has.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Apr 27, 2010 3:39pm
Pujols, and it's not close. They shouldn't even be in the same conversation.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Apr 27, 2010 6:30pm
I would also take Pujols.BigAppleBuckeye wrote: Pujols, and it's not even close. He's better at EVERYTHING, no debate here.
But it's a false notion that it isn't even close. You can't go wrong with either one of them.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Apr 27, 2010 6:42pm
I'll go ahead and say it isn't THAT close. Trend-wise, Pujols is a much better player.
VORP:
Howard 2009: 47.7
Pujols 2008: 99.1
Howard 2008: 36.5
Pujols 2007: 73.9
Howard 2007: 54.7
Pujols 2006: 86.6
Howard 2006: 82.3
Pujols is otherworldly in his contribution to the Cards. Howard, while a very very good player, isn't on the same plane.
VORP:
Pujols 2009: 98.3Value Over Replacement Player. The number of runs contributed beyond what a replacement-level player at the same position would contribute if given the same percentage of team plate appearances. VORP scores do not consider the quality of a player's defense.
Howard 2009: 47.7
Pujols 2008: 99.1
Howard 2008: 36.5
Pujols 2007: 73.9
Howard 2007: 54.7
Pujols 2006: 86.6
Howard 2006: 82.3
Pujols is otherworldly in his contribution to the Cards. Howard, while a very very good player, isn't on the same plane.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Apr 27, 2010 6:52pm
No, Pujols is the better player, but Howard has come into his own and it is fairly close. Much closer than most realize.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 27, 2010 6:53pm
Nice argumentSQ_Crazies wrote: No, Pujols is the better player, but Howard has come into his own and it is fairly close. Much closer than most realize.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 27, 2010 6:56pm
SQ, sorry man but it isnt that close.
If you REALLY want to start a good debate over who to take over the next 5 years (1B wise) make it between Miggy and Fat Albert.
If you REALLY want to start a good debate over who to take over the next 5 years (1B wise) make it between Miggy and Fat Albert.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Apr 27, 2010 6:56pm
Ok...give me a second.