RedBlackAttack
Posts: 133
Apr 23, 2010 9:09pm
He might still be there at our next pick... And we may pass on him again. One thing has been crystal clear through the first three rounds... While this is considered a very deep class in virtually all other positions, it is absolutely not a good draft for QBs.IggyPride00 wrote: McCoy would have been there at 71, the pick the Browns traded for the running back. I hope he doesn't end up being a decent QB because that would have been some nice value at this point in the draft.
I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).
Sykotyk
Posts: 1,155
Apr 23, 2010 9:15pm
True. But at a certain point, the value of McCoy would match the pick in hand. If the Browns truly are doing 'best available' then that means they think McCoy is a really crappy pro QB.RedBlackAttack wrote:He might still be there at our next pick... And we may pass on him again. One thing has been crystal clear through the first three rounds... While this is considered a very deep class in virtually all other positions, it is absolutely not a good draft for QBs.IggyPride00 wrote: McCoy would have been there at 71, the pick the Browns traded for the running back. I hope he doesn't end up being a decent QB because that would have been some nice value at this point in the draft.
I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).
Which surprised me.
Oh well. We traded up for a RB that I didn't think we'd fill in by giving up a third and two fifths. Right now, no qualms with MH or Heckert. i'll let the draft and season play out before i start laying into them on their first go-round.
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Apr 23, 2010 9:17pm
Whats the deal with Everson Griffen? I heard he might take a play or two off but he is a first round talent supposedly
RedBlackAttack
Posts: 133
Apr 23, 2010 9:22pm
Agreed. It is pretty obvious that taking McCoy with the pick we traded up for would have been a terrible decision, because he is still out there. We almost certainly wouldn't have gotten Hardesty with our original 3rd round pick, so things have gone pretty much exactly how Heckert probably envisioned.Sykotyk wrote:True. But at a certain point, the value of McCoy would match the pick in hand. If the Browns truly are doing 'best available' then that means they think McCoy is a really crappy pro QB.RedBlackAttack wrote:He might still be there at our next pick... And we may pass on him again. One thing has been crystal clear through the first three rounds... While this is considered a very deep class in virtually all other positions, it is absolutely not a good draft for QBs.IggyPride00 wrote: McCoy would have been there at 71, the pick the Browns traded for the running back. I hope he doesn't end up being a decent QB because that would have been some nice value at this point in the draft.
I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).
Which surprised me.
Oh well. We traded up for a RB that I didn't think we'd fill in by giving up a third and two fifths. Right now, no qualms with MH or Heckert. i'll let the draft and season play out before i start laying into them on their first go-round.
It looks like we will have another shot at McCoy. If Heckert/Holmgren don't take him with our next pick, then I don't want anything to do with him because it will be obvious that there are serious issues, there.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Apr 23, 2010 9:22pm
If he is there again when the Browns draft they should just take him because at this point the odds of getting a starting player at any position are iffy, and McCoy is too much of a value to pass on at this point considering his skills are actually a good fit for what the Browns want to do offensively in a semi-west coast offense. Not to mention the fans want it, which would buy the team some good will which is always needed.
BigAppleBuckeye
Posts: 2,935
Apr 23, 2010 9:23pm
I have to assume that freak injury to McCoy in the BCS title game has really hurt his stock? I think the kid can play, someone is going to get a steal with McCoy in the 3rd round, the guy is a winner.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 23, 2010 9:24pm
Workout warrior, but doesn't live up to it on game days.KR1245 wrote: How do you guys feel about Everson Griffen? I'm surprised that hes still available
imex99
Posts: 4,927
Apr 23, 2010 9:26pm
I'm guessing McCoy to Da BROWNS...
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Apr 23, 2010 9:26pm
We are at pick #86 in a DEEP draft. To say that a pick at any position is iffy is dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb... or ignorant? I'm leaning towards stupid for the right word. Judges ruling??? "Retarded" Ahh yes, that was a retarded assumption..
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pinstriper
Posts: 225
Apr 23, 2010 9:28pm
This. Browns will be near the top of the draft next year and that will be the time to take a QB.RedBlackAttack wrote:
I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Apr 23, 2010 9:29pm
Bengals need to start pickin more bad character guys. Lagarret Blount next?
Sykotyk
Posts: 1,155
Apr 23, 2010 9:29pm
We'll find out in two picks. If the Browns don't take him then, there's obviously issues and McCoy is damaged goods.
Worst time for a commercial.
What was that about trading up? NFL.com shows the bengals picking a WR. Where was the trade-up?
Worst time for a commercial.
What was that about trading up? NFL.com shows the bengals picking a WR. Where was the trade-up?
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Apr 23, 2010 9:29pm
Wow, nice pick up Shipley (helluva draft) so far for the bengals.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Apr 23, 2010 9:30pm
No, that's a scheduled pick.Sykotyk wrote: We'll find out in two picks. If the Browns don't take him then, there's obviously issues and McCoy is damaged goods.
Edit.
We just traded up. Worst time for a commercial.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 23, 2010 9:31pm
I would like Eric Decker with one of these 2 picks, even though I know Holmgren wants a speed guy at receiver.
Sykotyk
Posts: 1,155
Apr 23, 2010 9:31pm
Damn, for a second I thought they were saying we traded with the Bengals to move up one spot. I was a little concerned with that.
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Apr 23, 2010 9:32pm
eh.. not a fanMulva wrote: I would like Eric Decker with one of these 2 picks, even though I know Holmgren wants a speed guy at receiver.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Apr 23, 2010 9:32pm
Schefter and Mort are saying McCoy
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Apr 23, 2010 9:33pm
This McCoy?
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Apr 23, 2010 9:33pm
LOL obvious.
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Apr 23, 2010 9:33pm
haha Colt Mccoy!
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Apr 23, 2010 9:33pm
Good value this late in the draft
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Apr 23, 2010 9:34pm
Exceptional value IMO.KR1245 wrote: Good value this late in the draft
imex99
Posts: 4,927
Apr 23, 2010 9:34pm
2nd that ^^
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Apr 23, 2010 9:35pm
Good pick Cleveland.