
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 14, 2010 4:33pm
Dickerson 8
Janish 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Rolen 5
Bruce 9
Gomes 7
Hernandez 2
Bailey 1
Janish 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Rolen 5
Bruce 9
Gomes 7
Hernandez 2
Bailey 1

stroups
Posts: 3,223
Apr 14, 2010 4:39pm
I am happy to see Stubbs get some time off, I think he is a great talent but those strikeouts are becoming a liability at the leadoff spot.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Apr 14, 2010 4:53pm
Why the heck is Janish hitting in the 2 hole? You need to have a guy who can actually hit in that spot. I hate the fact that Baker has set spots in the batting order for certain positions. Leadoff must play CF, the 2 hole must be the shortstop, etc
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Swamp Fox
Posts: 2,218
Apr 14, 2010 5:26pm
How about those Reds. Off to a pretty good start. Perhaps this will be the turnaround year!

BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Apr 14, 2010 5:37pm
jordo, don't waste any brain power trying to figure out the logic behind Baker's lineups. Your brain will try to eat itself.

Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Apr 14, 2010 5:46pm
Have you seen the turnout for this series down in Florida. I hope the first two games does not turn Floridians from going to the ballpark. There might not be anyone in attendance for game four.

BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Apr 14, 2010 6:06pm
There is no doubt in my mind that there are more people at any minor league park in Ohio than there are at Marlins games. That is pathetic.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Apr 14, 2010 6:51pm
Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.jordo212000 wrote: Why the heck is Janish hitting in the 2 hole? You need to have a guy who can actually hit in that spot. I hate the fact that Baker has set spots in the batting order for certain positions. Leadoff must play CF, the 2 hole must be the shortstop, etc
Reds starters ERA is 3rd best in the league, but starters have no wins, the bullpen has all five wins. A few blown saves, but none by Cordero. I wonder how many runs worse the bullpen ERA is vs the starters?

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Apr 14, 2010 7:00pm
Who came up with that stat? Haha. His defense may be better than Cabrera's, but ultimately that bump in defense does not offset the fact that he is a career .205 hitter.mhs95_06 wrote: Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.
I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Apr 14, 2010 7:04pm
Reds bullpen is not weary because the starters have been poor. They are 5th in the league at 6.1 innings per start, with only 6 teams at 6.0 or better, and two leams are at less than 5.0!

stroups
Posts: 3,223
Apr 14, 2010 7:10pm
This is what I would like to see for a lineup
Dickerson 8
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Gomes 7
Bruce 9
Janish 6
Hernandez 2
Bailey 1
Dickerson 8
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Gomes 7
Bruce 9
Janish 6
Hernandez 2
Bailey 1
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Apr 14, 2010 7:11pm
I'm sure there are other variables, but the point is he doesn't hurt them too bad there.jordo212000 wrote:Who came up with that stat? Haha. His defense may be better than Cabrera's, but ultimately that bump in defense does not offset the fact that he is a career .205 hitter.mhs95_06 wrote: Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.
I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 14, 2010 7:28pm
Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.jordo212000 wrote:
I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 14, 2010 7:29pm
Homer gettin murked.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Apr 14, 2010 7:38pm
Not what these two managers with weary bullpens want to see in the first inning:
Volstad 27 pitches
Bailey 24 pitches
Volstad 27 pitches
Bailey 24 pitches

CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Apr 14, 2010 7:43pm
I was content with Bailey only giving up 1 in that inning.

CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Apr 14, 2010 7:50pm
This inning looks to be a disaster.
2-0 FLA
2-0 FLA

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Apr 14, 2010 7:57pm
Wouldn't the main stat that determines how solid of a hitter he is be his career numbers?SportsAndLady wrote: Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 14, 2010 7:58pm
There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.jordo212000 wrote:Wouldn't the main stat that determines how solid of a hitter he is be his career numbers?SportsAndLady wrote: Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.At the end of the day he hits .205, how can anybody say that he is a solid #2 hitter? It makes no sense statistically. You tend to put your best/better hitters towards the top of the lineup so that they get more at bats. Why would you want a guy like Janish getting more ABs than a guy like Scott Rolen?
"It makes no sense statistically."
Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Apr 14, 2010 8:09pm
His OBP is only .290, which is abysmal. Wouldn't one think that Scott Rolen or nearly anybody else who hits above a .270 clip be just as adept at situational hitting?SportsAndLady wrote:
There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.
"It makes no sense statistically."
Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.
Also what difference does it make how good a bunter he is? We all know over the past year and a half the Reds have had non-existent leadoff hitters who never get on base.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 14, 2010 8:11pm
Look I don't know the reasoning, I was just throwing out possibilities.jordo212000 wrote:His OBP is only .290, which is abysmal. Wouldn't one think that Scott Rolen or nearly anybody else who hits above a .270 clip be just as adept at situational hitting?SportsAndLady wrote:
There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.
"It makes no sense statistically."
Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.
Also what difference does it make how good a bunter he is? We all know over the past year and a half the Reds have had a non-existent leadoff hitters who never get on base.
All I'm saying is he must be doing something right, because you don't have that good of a winning record after 36 starts and it be coincidence/luck.
10 games, yes. 36?
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Apr 14, 2010 8:49pm
After 4 innings:
Volstad 76 pitches, one run
Bailey 82 pitches, 3 runs
Volstad 76 pitches, one run
Bailey 82 pitches, 3 runs

Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Apr 14, 2010 8:53pm
Why does everyone swing at such shitty pitches??

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 14, 2010 8:54pm
Buy or sell Chris Welch has a boner right now

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 14, 2010 8:54pm
lol
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