SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 4:33pm
                            
                        
                                Dickerson 8
Janish 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Rolen 5
Bruce 9
Gomes 7
Hernandez 2
Bailey 1
                        Janish 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Rolen 5
Bruce 9
Gomes 7
Hernandez 2
Bailey 1
stroups
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 4:39pm
                            
                        
                                I am happy to see Stubbs get some time off, I think he is a great talent but those strikeouts are becoming a liability at the leadoff spot.
                            
                        jordo212000
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 4:53pm
                            
                        
                                Why the heck is Janish hitting in the 2 hole? You need to have a guy who can actually hit in that spot. I hate the fact that Baker has set spots in the batting order for certain positions. Leadoff must play CF, the 2 hole must be the shortstop, etc
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                Swamp Fox
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 5:26pm
                            
                        
                                How about those Reds. Off to a pretty good start. Perhaps this will be the turnaround year!
                            
                        BCBulldog
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 5:37pm
                            
                        
                                jordo, don't waste any brain power trying to figure out the logic behind Baker's lineups. Your brain will try to eat itself.
                            
                        Little Danny
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 5:46pm
                            
                        
                                Have you seen the turnout for this series down in Florida.   I hope the first two games does not turn Floridians from going to the ballpark.   There might not be anyone in attendance for game four.
                            
                        BCBulldog
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 6:06pm
                            
                        
                                There is no doubt in my mind that there are more people at any minor league park in Ohio than there are at Marlins games. That is pathetic.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                mhs95_06
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 6:51pm
                            
                        Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.jordo212000 wrote: Why the heck is Janish hitting in the 2 hole? You need to have a guy who can actually hit in that spot. I hate the fact that Baker has set spots in the batting order for certain positions. Leadoff must play CF, the 2 hole must be the shortstop, etc
Reds starters ERA is 3rd best in the league, but starters have no wins, the bullpen has all five wins. A few blown saves, but none by Cordero. I wonder how many runs worse the bullpen ERA is vs the starters?
jordo212000
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 7:00pm
                            
                        Who came up with that stat? Haha. His defense may be better than Cabrera's, but ultimately that bump in defense does not offset the fact that he is a career .205 hitter.mhs95_06 wrote: Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.
I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.
                                        
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                                                                mhs95_06
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 7:04pm
                            
                        
                                Reds bullpen is not weary because the starters have been poor.  They are 5th in the league at 6.1 innings per start, with only 6 teams at 6.0 or better, and two leams are at less than 5.0!
                            
                        stroups
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 7:10pm
                            
                        
                                This is what I would like to see for a  lineup 
Dickerson 8
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Gomes 7
Bruce 9
Janish 6
Hernandez 2
Bailey 1
                        Dickerson 8
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Gomes 7
Bruce 9
Janish 6
Hernandez 2
Bailey 1
                                        
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                                                                mhs95_06
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 7:11pm
                            
                        I'm sure there are other variables, but the point is he doesn't hurt them too bad there.jordo212000 wrote:Who came up with that stat? Haha. His defense may be better than Cabrera's, but ultimately that bump in defense does not offset the fact that he is a career .205 hitter.mhs95_06 wrote: Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.
I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.
SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 7:28pm
                            
                        Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.jordo212000 wrote:
I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.
SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 7:29pm
                            
                        
                                Homer gettin murked.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                mhs95_06
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 7:38pm
                            
                        
                                Not what these two managers with weary bullpens want to see in the first inning:
Volstad 27 pitches
Bailey 24 pitches
                        Volstad 27 pitches
Bailey 24 pitches
CinciX12
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 7:43pm
                            
                        
                                I was content with Bailey only giving up 1 in that inning.
                            
                        CinciX12
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 7:50pm
                            
                        
                                This inning looks to be a disaster. 
2-0 FLA
                        2-0 FLA
jordo212000
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 7:57pm
                            
                        Wouldn't the main stat that determines how solid of a hitter he is be his career numbers?SportsAndLady wrote: Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.
SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 7:58pm
                            
                        There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.jordo212000 wrote:Wouldn't the main stat that determines how solid of a hitter he is be his career numbers?SportsAndLady wrote: Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.At the end of the day he hits .205, how can anybody say that he is a solid #2 hitter? It makes no sense statistically. You tend to put your best/better hitters towards the top of the lineup so that they get more at bats. Why would you want a guy like Janish getting more ABs than a guy like Scott Rolen?
"It makes no sense statistically."
Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.
jordo212000
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 8:09pm
                            
                        His OBP is only .290, which is abysmal. Wouldn't one think that Scott Rolen or nearly anybody else who hits above a .270 clip be just as adept at situational hitting?SportsAndLady wrote:
There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.
"It makes no sense statistically."
Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.
Also what difference does it make how good a bunter he is? We all know over the past year and a half the Reds have had non-existent leadoff hitters who never get on base.
SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 8:11pm
                            
                        Look I don't know the reasoning, I was just throwing out possibilities.jordo212000 wrote:His OBP is only .290, which is abysmal. Wouldn't one think that Scott Rolen or nearly anybody else who hits above a .270 clip be just as adept at situational hitting?SportsAndLady wrote:
There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.
"It makes no sense statistically."
Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.
Also what difference does it make how good a bunter he is? We all know over the past year and a half the Reds have had a non-existent leadoff hitters who never get on base.
All I'm saying is he must be doing something right, because you don't have that good of a winning record after 36 starts and it be coincidence/luck.
10 games, yes. 36?
                                        
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                                                                mhs95_06
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 8:49pm
                            
                        
                                After 4 innings:
Volstad 76 pitches, one run
Bailey 82 pitches, 3 runs
                        Volstad 76 pitches, one run
Bailey 82 pitches, 3 runs
Rotinaj
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 8:53pm
                            
                        
                                Why does everyone swing at such shitty pitches??
                            
                        SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 8:54pm
                            
                        
                                Buy or sell Chris Welch has a boner right now
                            
                        wildcats20
                                                                            
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                                Apr 14, 2010 8:54pm
                            
                        
                                lol
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