
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Apr 10, 2010 5:40pm
Currently beating Real Madrid 2-0 with 15 minutes to go. The game never looked in doubt, despite Madrid having way more shots. Barca killed them on time of possession.
Also, Messi with ANOTHER goal.
I'm not too familiar with Spanish cup tournaments. Is it possible they can go for a treble? I'm almost guaranteeing they will win La Liga, and I doubt anyone can in the CL can take them either.
Also, Messi with ANOTHER goal.
I'm not too familiar with Spanish cup tournaments. Is it possible they can go for a treble? I'm almost guaranteeing they will win La Liga, and I doubt anyone can in the CL can take them either.

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 10, 2010 5:54pm
Sevilla took Barca out in the Copa Del Rey round of 16. It's Sevilla and Atletico Madrid in the final there. Messi has been unreal this season.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 10, 2010 6:36pm
I give you guys credit. Who in hell follows this shit?
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Apr 10, 2010 6:41pm
Barca is tough right now, but in the CL anything can happen.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 10, 2010 7:14pm
they are saying the same thing about the NFL and MLB soooo we are even.Footwedge wrote: I give you guys credit. Who in hell follows this shit?

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Apr 10, 2010 7:43pm
I've been going strong for about 6 years now. Its gaining popularity.......mostly with younger folks.Footwedge wrote: I give you guys credit. Who in hell follows this shit?

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 10, 2010 8:40pm
Soccer is boring, I'd rather eat a bagel.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Apr 10, 2010 9:46pm
Champions League is awesome. I'd go as far to even say that has better quality teams/players than the World Cup.
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spartan
Posts: 178
Apr 10, 2010 9:59pm
why was messi booked? i couldnt watch the game, i had spend tim with the girl friend today.

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Apr 10, 2010 10:18pm
Soccer? are you posting soccer on here? eewwwww.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 10, 2010 10:36pm
says the guy with a girls softball avatar? lol have fun with that sport!HitsRus wrote: Soccer? are you posting soccer on here? eewwwww.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 10, 2010 10:38pm
I don't know about htat one...Automatik wrote: Champions League is awesome. I'd go as far to even say that has better quality teams/players than the World Cup.

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Apr 10, 2010 11:01pm
Hahaha....says the guy with the avatar of a sport where big guys jam a ball in a hole from 6 inches! Let's see Michael Jordan hit a baseball...oh wait...he couldn't!
....just havin' some fun
....just havin' some fun
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rock_knutne
Apr 10, 2010 11:09pm
I think Automatic is spot on with that one. The clubs play together much more than international squads and are in better sync. Countries are pretty much at the mercy of the players they have available (which is a ton of talent for some), clubs on the other hand, especially rich ones can buy what ever they need.DeyDurkie5 wrote:I don't know about htat one...Automatik wrote: Champions League is awesome. I'd go as far to even say that has better quality teams/players than the World Cup.

3reppom
Posts: 765
Apr 10, 2010 11:20pm
Barca have to be prohibitive favorites for the Champions League as well as La Liga now that they are 3 points clear of los blancos. I am very interested for the Champions League semi with Inter. If there is a guy who can devise a plan to nullify Messi it would be José Mourinho. But Messi's form at the moment is just unreal, he is staking his claim as the greatest player of this generation rather emphatically. I am pretty sure that you have to have something approximating his run of form to prompt a chocolatier to devise a life size chocolate Messi. He's pretty fucking amazing right now.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 10, 2010 11:20pm
Yeah, certain clubs have more talent than smaller countries..but to say these clubs are better than say Spain, England, Italy, etc. is just dumb...as far as the smaller countries, i definitely agree that the Barcelonas of the world are a lot better than themrock_knutne wrote:I think Automatic is spot on with that one. The clubs play together much more than international squads and are in better sync. Countries are pretty much at the mercy of the players they have available (which is a ton of talent for some), clubs on the other hand, especially rich ones can buy what ever they need.DeyDurkie5 wrote:I don't know about htat one...Automatik wrote: Champions League is awesome. I'd go as far to even say that has better quality teams/players than the World Cup.
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rock_knutne
Apr 10, 2010 11:30pm
ALL the big clubs have more collective talent than most any national side. Clubs like Man Utd and Barca field mostly players who are also first team selections for their country.DeyDurkie5 wrote:Yeah, certain clubs have more talent than smaller countries..but to say these clubs are better than say Spain, England, Italy, etc. is just dumb...as far as the smaller countries, i definitely agree that the Barcelonas of the world are a lot better than themrock_knutne wrote:I think Automatic is spot on with that one. The clubs play together much more than international squads and are in better sync. Countries are pretty much at the mercy of the players they have available (which is a ton of talent for some), clubs on the other hand, especially rich ones can buy what ever they need.DeyDurkie5 wrote:I don't know about htat one...Automatik wrote: Champions League is awesome. I'd go as far to even say that has better quality teams/players than the World Cup.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 10, 2010 11:34pm
rock_knutne wrote:ALL the big clubs have more collective talent than most any national side. Clubs like Man Utd and Barca field mostly players who are also first team selections for their country.DeyDurkie5 wrote:Yeah, certain clubs have more talent than smaller countries..but to say these clubs are better than say Spain, England, Italy, etc. is just dumb...as far as the smaller countries, i definitely agree that the Barcelonas of the world are a lot better than themrock_knutne wrote:I think Automatic is spot on with that one. The clubs play together much more than international squads and are in better sync. Countries are pretty much at the mercy of the players they have available (which is a ton of talent for some), clubs on the other hand, especially rich ones can buy what ever they need.DeyDurkie5 wrote:I don't know about htat one...Automatik wrote: Champions League is awesome. I'd go as far to even say that has better quality teams/players than the World Cup.
No they don't

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 11, 2010 4:10am
Agreed. Laughable statement to make.DeyDurkie5 wrote:
No they don't

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Apr 11, 2010 4:16am
As stated before...
Major clubs go after the TOP TALENT to their starting 11. International teams field the best from their respective countries. More often then not the top clubs will have the stronger teams.
Saying England is better than some of the clubs is asinine. Have you even watched their international team play in the last few years? They have been decent during this WC qualifying, but with the talent they have, they have been atrocious in the past years. They didn't even qualify for the Euro. That is absolutely unacceptable.....ask any Brit and they will tell you the same.
The Champions League brings the best talent in the world on the best clubs in the world.
Barca, United, Inter....the majority of those players are starting for their countries. This point has been argued over and over again on Sky Sports. I'm surprised Durkie is disagreeing with it. A casual fan might disagree.....but watch enough and you will see where I'm getting...
Major clubs go after the TOP TALENT to their starting 11. International teams field the best from their respective countries. More often then not the top clubs will have the stronger teams.
Saying England is better than some of the clubs is asinine. Have you even watched their international team play in the last few years? They have been decent during this WC qualifying, but with the talent they have, they have been atrocious in the past years. They didn't even qualify for the Euro. That is absolutely unacceptable.....ask any Brit and they will tell you the same.
The Champions League brings the best talent in the world on the best clubs in the world.
Barca, United, Inter....the majority of those players are starting for their countries. This point has been argued over and over again on Sky Sports. I'm surprised Durkie is disagreeing with it. A casual fan might disagree.....but watch enough and you will see where I'm getting...

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 11, 2010 4:17am
Nothing is better than the World Cup... Nothing.
I will admit though, Barca is looking like it may be the best club team in the world. Messi is unreal right now.
I still wish ManU would have kept Ronaldo if possible.
I will admit though, Barca is looking like it may be the best club team in the world. Messi is unreal right now.
I still wish ManU would have kept Ronaldo if possible.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Apr 11, 2010 4:22am
I agree. As a whole I think the WC is the greatest sporting event on the planet....and I mean that.
But when compared to the talent of each team collectively in a single tourney....the CL is above it.
Also, United had no chance at Ronaldo. When a team offers as much as Real did....you take it. I don't think a team on earth is going to take a player over that amount of dough.
But when compared to the talent of each team collectively in a single tourney....the CL is above it.
Also, United had no chance at Ronaldo. When a team offers as much as Real did....you take it. I don't think a team on earth is going to take a player over that amount of dough.
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rock_knutne
Apr 11, 2010 8:41am
Wow, Durkie you're clueless when it comes to soccer too!Mulva wrote:Agreed. Laughable statement to make.DeyDurkie5 wrote:
No they don't
What's laughable? If you guys think that an international squad has more collective talent than one of the big clubs you're crazy!

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 11, 2010 10:42am
I'm 22 in May, been playing the game since I was 5 on high level club teams and collegiately and I coach as well. To say I'm clueless is laughable when it comes to soccer topics. The fact is, yes a lot of these clubs have unreal talent and I understand the argument about them getting the top talent in the world, not just one country. BUT, as a whole, the top teir club teams don't compare to top tier international teams. The ONLY one at the moment who I would even consider putting in that argument is Barca...You can agree to disagree with me if that makes you feel better rock.rock_knutne wrote:Wow, Durkie you're clueless when it comes to soccer too!Mulva wrote:Agreed. Laughable statement to make.DeyDurkie5 wrote:
No they don't
What's laughable? If you guys think that an international squad has more collective talent than one of the big clubs you're crazy!
Man U, Real Madrid, Inter, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool would get spanked by Spain, England, Italy, Brazil, etc. and it's not even a question in my eye.

3reppom
Posts: 765
Apr 11, 2010 10:50am
It depends on which international side and club you are making the comparison with. Real Madrid have more talent on hand than say Honduras. On the flip side Spain or Brazil have more talent than a champions league side like Bordeaux. There are some clubs that have more quality than the vast majority of national sides, but there aren't many of them, maybe 8 at the most.rock_knutne wrote:Wow, Durkie you're clueless when it comes to soccer too!Mulva wrote:Agreed. Laughable statement to make.DeyDurkie5 wrote:
No they don't
What's laughable? If you guys think that an international squad has more collective talent than one of the big clubs you're crazy!