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                                Apr 6, 2010 4:07pm
                            
                        
                                Berry and I agree on McCoy also.
And I wouldn't be upset if we ended up with Thomas.
                        And I wouldn't be upset if we ended up with Thomas.
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                                Apr 6, 2010 4:08pm
                            
                        
                                We can always take Darius Heyward Bey at 7 instead of Crabtree
                            
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                                Apr 6, 2010 4:10pm
                            
                        
                                I would take the best available Buckeye with the #7.  And then pick the guy that looks the fastest on youtube with the 2nd rounder.
                            
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                                Apr 6, 2010 4:20pm
                            
                        
                                ^^
Both those options sound good to me.
                        Both those options sound good to me.
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                                Apr 6, 2010 5:07pm
                            
                        amazing how you've changed your opinion on the importance of height in a quarterback in the past few years...BR1986FB wrote: As I mentioned on the Browns thread, Reghi had Colt McCoy on WKNR and the kid impressed the hell out of me. Nothing but confident.
I've heard knocks on his height (he's 6' 1 3/8, NOT the "under 6 foot" that some assclown...they know who they are but are too busy to see this because they are getting teabagged by Tebow, said about him). BTW...he only had ONE ball batted down which is one of the things that impressed scouts.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 6, 2010 6:24pm
                            
                        Please, enlighten me. McCoy is almost 6'2". It's not like he's 5'10" of < 6' like Troy Smith.krazie45 wrote:amazing how you've changed your opinion on the importance of height in a quarterback in the past few years...BR1986FB wrote: As I mentioned on the Browns thread, Reghi had Colt McCoy on WKNR and the kid impressed the hell out of me. Nothing but confident.
I've heard knocks on his height (he's 6' 1 3/8, NOT the "under 6 foot" that some assclown...they know who they are but are too busy to see this because they are getting teabagged by Tebow, said about him). BTW...he only had ONE ball batted down which is one of the things that impressed scouts.
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                                Apr 6, 2010 9:02pm
                            
                        
                                Well if you get to round up and say McCoy is 6'2'' then Smith gets rounded up to 6'0'' in which case you're still talking about 2 inches...
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Apr 6, 2010 9:04pm
                            
                        
                                And McCoy will STILL end up having the much better career.
                            
                        Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Apr 6, 2010 9:08pm
                            
                        
                                Troy Smith was actually 6'0" at the Combine.
                            
                        Mr. 300
                                                                            
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                                Apr 6, 2010 9:28pm
                            
                        Who the flock cares what you think. You have no friggin' clue based on the names you provided. The kiddy forum is down the road.gibby08 wrote: I really don;t know what the big obsession is with Colt McCoy...
I would rather have Tim Tebow,Tony Pike,or Dan Lefevour
                                        
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                                Apr 6, 2010 10:34pm
                            
                        
                                Pike is going to be a pretty good pro and would be a good fit here in Cleveland.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Apr 6, 2010 10:35pm
                            
                        
                                ummmm Drew Brees height at combine...6'0", you don't exactly have to be gigantic to be an effective QB
                            
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                                Apr 6, 2010 11:58pm
                            
                        And people care about what you think??Mr. 300 wrote:Who the flock cares what you think. You have no friggin' clue based on the names you provided. The kiddy forum is down the road.gibby08 wrote: I really don;t know what the big obsession is with Colt McCoy...
I would rather have Tim Tebow,Tony Pike,or Dan Lefevour
Fine...go ahead and take Colt McCoy.....and you guys will continue to suck
BR.....someone really needs to just beat the shit out of you. You need to be knocked down a couple of pegs
You think you know something about the NFL...but in reality you dont know shit...like the majority of us here
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 7, 2010 5:26am
                            
                        Good luck finding someone who CAN do it. :rolleyes:gibby08 wrote:
BR.....someone really needs to just beat the shit out of you.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 7, 2010 5:29am
                            
                        Pike is still on their radar if they can't get McCoy. His workouts haven't been impressive but the team has looked at his overall body of work.Big Red Monster wrote: Pike is going to be a pretty good pro and would be a good fit here in Cleveland.
Just read something from a scout on Tebow. He said something to the effect of "he's never seen a group (Team Tebow) put on such a media blitz to get a QB drafted in the "top half of the 1st round." This scout also said "and if that happens, that would be a shame."
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                                Apr 7, 2010 8:04am
                            
                        What a douche bag. Go back to sucking Obama's dick on the politics forum, because it is obvious your not very intelligent.gibby08 wrote:
BR.....someone really needs to just beat the shit out of you. You need to be knocked down a couple of pegs
You think you know something about the NFL...but in reality you dont know shit...like the majority of us here
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 7, 2010 8:26am
                            
                        
                                I'm not saying they WON'T take Tebow but from what I've heard, McCoy seems to be their top pick AND fits the offensive direction that they are headed in. 
For "Mr. My Lips are permanently attached to Tebow's nads", sing his praises ALL you want, but I don't recall ANYONE saying the Colt McCoy was a projected "H-Back or Tight End" in the NFL or any of his receivers NOT referring to him as a "real quarterback" like they have about Tebow.
                        For "Mr. My Lips are permanently attached to Tebow's nads", sing his praises ALL you want, but I don't recall ANYONE saying the Colt McCoy was a projected "H-Back or Tight End" in the NFL or any of his receivers NOT referring to him as a "real quarterback" like they have about Tebow.
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                                Apr 7, 2010 8:34am
                            
                        
                                What gets me the most is that Pike, LeFevour, Tebow are all spread/read option QB at the college level. Aside from not taking a snap from center his entire college career, poor mechanics, and a box-o-rocks wonderlic score...what spread/read option QB has even had marginal success at the pro level?
and we're supposed to choose three (3) of them over pro style QB's at the college level?
Go diddle your privates over passing healthcare , you have no idea what you're talking about.
                        and we're supposed to choose three (3) of them over pro style QB's at the college level?
Go diddle your privates over passing healthcare , you have no idea what you're talking about.
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                                Apr 7, 2010 8:55am
                            
                        
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                                Apr 7, 2010 9:49am
                            
                        
                                While I dont know if I agree with it yet or not, it certainly appears that McCoy will be the 2nd round pick.
The 1st round pick is just too hard to predict right now.
                        The 1st round pick is just too hard to predict right now.
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                                Apr 7, 2010 10:10am
                            
                        I accept that challenge.BR1986FB wrote:Good luck finding someone who CAN do it. :rolleyes:gibby08 wrote:
BR.....someone really needs to just beat the shit out of you.
Just be gentle with the face, it's my money maker.
                                        
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                                Apr 7, 2010 10:17am
                            
                        Nah, man. I don't mess with the cool ones. It's assholes I have issues with.justincredible wrote:I accept that challenge.BR1986FB wrote:Good luck finding someone who CAN do it. :rolleyes:gibby08 wrote:
BR.....someone really needs to just beat the shit out of you.
Just be gentle with the face, it's my money maker.
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                                Apr 7, 2010 10:53am
                            
                        
                                This is to funny. Gibby the gay boy calling out BR??? I'd pay good money to watch that curb stomp take place.
Ytown, excellent points, and I'll add that Pike's level of competition was below average at best. Under center QB is who I'd want in Cleveland. Run oriented team on the lake playing in the AFC needs to establish run first, pass second. McCoy would be the logical first choice if available.
                        Ytown, excellent points, and I'll add that Pike's level of competition was below average at best. Under center QB is who I'd want in Cleveland. Run oriented team on the lake playing in the AFC needs to establish run first, pass second. McCoy would be the logical first choice if available.
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                                Apr 7, 2010 10:16pm
                            
                        
                                Colt McCoy isnt a spread QB????
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Apr 8, 2010 1:17pm
                            
                        
                                Hes not a spread/read option QB
As for any spread/read option QBs who have had success in the pro's...Vince Young. He ran the hell out of the zone read in college. Keep in mind as well that the zone read is still a relatively young offense in college, so not many good zone QBs have gone to the pros. The zone blocking scheme has been in the pros for a long time and it wont be long before a pro coach will make an effort to run the zone read as part of their shotgun package. People thought the Wildcat was a gimmick until the Dolphins started killing teams with it.
Pike, McCoy, and Tebow...yes TEBOW will be successful in the NFL as QBs. Ive never been impressed with Lefevour. His schedule allowed him to be good.
As for all the crap about Tebow being mentioned as an H-Back or a TE and McCoy not being mentioned that way...That just tells me that Tebow is more versatile of an athlete and teams will find a way to get a proven winner on the field for them. regardless...that talk has died down since he has worked on his release and all of a sudden teams are talking about taking him earlier and earlier. He went from being maybe a 3rd rounder or even switching positions to being a potential late 1st round pick. There are at least 5 teams he would start for next season.
As for Clausen...he sucks. He would be a reach pick in any round. I think he should go at least 20 picks after Mr. Irrelivant.
                        As for any spread/read option QBs who have had success in the pro's...Vince Young. He ran the hell out of the zone read in college. Keep in mind as well that the zone read is still a relatively young offense in college, so not many good zone QBs have gone to the pros. The zone blocking scheme has been in the pros for a long time and it wont be long before a pro coach will make an effort to run the zone read as part of their shotgun package. People thought the Wildcat was a gimmick until the Dolphins started killing teams with it.
Pike, McCoy, and Tebow...yes TEBOW will be successful in the NFL as QBs. Ive never been impressed with Lefevour. His schedule allowed him to be good.
As for all the crap about Tebow being mentioned as an H-Back or a TE and McCoy not being mentioned that way...That just tells me that Tebow is more versatile of an athlete and teams will find a way to get a proven winner on the field for them. regardless...that talk has died down since he has worked on his release and all of a sudden teams are talking about taking him earlier and earlier. He went from being maybe a 3rd rounder or even switching positions to being a potential late 1st round pick. There are at least 5 teams he would start for next season.
As for Clausen...he sucks. He would be a reach pick in any round. I think he should go at least 20 picks after Mr. Irrelivant.