Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Apr 3, 2010 10:54pm
I've noticed there have been a couple Mods lately who have been moderating beyond the scope of the rules.
They have been either closing threads or hiding posts that are very questionable in nature, but don't actually break any rules... for example sleeper has been getting silenced lately for posts that don't break any rules.
His prayer thread comment and comment on ND player dying. While what he is doing and saying is disrespectful, it's perfectly fine according to the rules listed.
Another example is the "Shaun Rogers terrorist" thread over in pro sports. While it's a stupid thread and all, closing it because it's trolling? It doesn't break any defined rules.
This is the slope that we spoke about in beginning. Do we completely just mod according to rules or are judgement calls and personal preference used now?
They have been either closing threads or hiding posts that are very questionable in nature, but don't actually break any rules... for example sleeper has been getting silenced lately for posts that don't break any rules.
His prayer thread comment and comment on ND player dying. While what he is doing and saying is disrespectful, it's perfectly fine according to the rules listed.
Another example is the "Shaun Rogers terrorist" thread over in pro sports. While it's a stupid thread and all, closing it because it's trolling? It doesn't break any defined rules.
This is the slope that we spoke about in beginning. Do we completely just mod according to rules or are judgement calls and personal preference used now?
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Apr 3, 2010 10:56pm
Posts/threads like that contribute nothing to the site, all they do is encourage retarded bickering between retarded people.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 3, 2010 10:58pm
Open it back up.......let me grab my popcorn.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Apr 3, 2010 10:58pm
But arbitrarily silencing people because you don't like what they have to say? I remember a lot of that on JJ and it's a bad road to travel down. Unless we can specifically word a rule to prevent that kind of behavior and is specific... I'd like to stay away from it.Trueblue23 wrote: Posts/threads like that contribute nothing to the site, all they do is encourage retarded bickering between retarded people.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 3, 2010 11:02pm
The Sleeper comments were the "bad fellowship" issues I had mentioned before, that is a worse slippery slope than the one you fear. I've mentioned wanting a bad fellowship rule before, but you were the most outspoken against it.Fly4Fun wrote:But arbitrarily silencing people because you don't like what they have to say? I remember a lot of that on JJ and it's a bad road to travel down. Unless we can specifically word a rule to prevent that kind of behavior and is specific... I'd like to stay away from it.Trueblue23 wrote: Posts/threads like that contribute nothing to the site, all they do is encourage retarded bickering between retarded people.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 3, 2010 11:03pm
Pretty easy to see what is going to happen with this one....doesn't take a rocket scientist.Trueblue23 wrote: Posts/threads like that contribute nothing to the site, all they do is encourage retarded bickering between retarded people.
Next comment will by a Browns fan and it will be calling Capone a fucking douchebag.
Capone will reply that the Browns organization is a joke and the guy is a terrorist.
Browns fan: Fuck you Capone, you are a piece of fucking shit.
ETC, ETC, ETC.
We have been down this road before.
PS...I opened it back up....I can use the entertainment
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 3, 2010 11:17pm
I agree with Fly4Fun. Unless we modify the rules I don't want to just arbitrarily close threads and delete posts.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 3, 2010 11:19pm
I propose a rule against bad fellowship.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 3, 2010 11:19pm
Then something needs to be done like LJ suggested. If not, br1986fb, Capone, Strapping Young Lad, and many others are just going to go off on each other in every sports thread.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Apr 3, 2010 11:20pm
Yes, it's easy to see where it will go. It's easy to tell what the purpose is of the people who do this.
But right now, the moderating being done is against the scope of the rules set forth... and it's starting to look like JJhuddle with very subjective rulings of what can and can't be said.
But right now, the moderating being done is against the scope of the rules set forth... and it's starting to look like JJhuddle with very subjective rulings of what can and can't be said.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 3, 2010 11:20pm
Eh, what I propose is more for lik the Sleeper comments.wes_mantooth wrote: Then something needs to be done like LJ suggested. If not, br1986fb, Capone, Strapping Young Lad, and many others are just going to go off on each other in every sports thread.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 3, 2010 11:22pm
Yeah, but wouldn't starting shit stirring threads like Capone, Society be about the same?LJ wrote:Eh, what I propose is more for lik the Sleeper comments.wes_mantooth wrote: Then something needs to be done like LJ suggested. If not, br1986fb, Capone, Strapping Young Lad, and many others are just going to go off on each other in every sports thread.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 3, 2010 11:23pm
Nah, I just think it needs to be on actual serious issues... deaths, family problems, actual problems, I'd say when Society was calling mirg fat that would probably fall in there.wes_mantooth wrote:Yeah, but wouldn't starting shit stirring threads like Capone, Society be about the same?LJ wrote:Eh, what I propose is more for lik the Sleeper comments.wes_mantooth wrote: Then something needs to be done like LJ suggested. If not, br1986fb, Capone, Strapping Young Lad, and many others are just going to go off on each other in every sports thread.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 3, 2010 11:26pm
Gotcha. I really could give a shit less about what these guys say, but I can almost guarantee that the pro sports and college sports will get shittier and shittier with Capone and SYL starting topics like this.....but I am about half in the bag so what do I know.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Apr 3, 2010 11:32pm
LJ wrote:
Nah, I just think it needs to be on actual serious issues... deaths, family problems, actual problems, I'd say when Society was calling mirg fat that would probably fall in there.
Calling mirg fat would fall under the personal rule, so you could get rid of that and give a warning based upon that.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 3, 2010 11:42pm
Whatever happens I (we) are in a can't win situation. It's really fucking annoying that people can't act like adults.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Apr 3, 2010 11:47pm
This is true. But it's also a given that some people will continually try to push the boundaries no matter what.justincredible wrote: Whatever happens I (we) are in a can't win situation. It's really fucking annoying that people can't act like adults.
If we can some how come up with a reasonable rule to some how exclude trolling while making it defined enough to enforce with as little subjectivity as possible I'd be all for it.
But this is the price you take for having a more open forum, you take the good with the bad.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Apr 4, 2010 12:25am
Some of you mods need to quit fucking up before you get shit canned!
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 4, 2010 12:26am
He will never fire us....just send him a certified letter...that will take care of it.GoChiefs wrote: Some of you mods need to quit fucking up before you get shit canned!
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Apr 4, 2010 12:28am
He and Les Schear have teamed up now I'm sure. They will be merging soon enough. Together, they now have the funding to fight any legal battles that may ensue.wes_mantooth wrote: He will never fire us....just send him a certified letter...that will take care of it.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 4, 2010 12:31am
+1.GoChiefs wrote:He and Les Schear have teamed up now I'm sure. They will be merging soon enough. Together, they now have the funding to fight any legal battles that may ensue.wes_mantooth wrote: He will never fire us....just send him a certified letter...that will take care of it.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 4, 2010 12:32am
^^^^Did you get part ownership in his loan sharking....I mean pay day loans operation?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 4, 2010 12:35am
I did.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 4, 2010 12:36am
Sweet. I need about 3 hundred dollars....for a hooker. She is STD free
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Apr 4, 2010 12:38am
When did mom raise her prices?wes_mantooth wrote: Sweet. I need about 3 hundred dollars....for a hooker. She is STD free