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BCSbunk
Posts: 972
Apr 2, 2010 2:02pm
His sign says so!LJ wrote:How else are you going to prove that he wouldn't?derek bomar wrote:so, is it the Obama supporters job to walk in anyway and find out if he would treat them?LJ wrote:No he isn't, he is saying that he doesn't want to treat you. C'mon, I think it's a stupid and petty thing to do just as much as the next person, but until someone comes in and says "I've got a giant cancerous kidney tumor, will you remove it?" and he says "no", it's a moot, rhetorical argument.derek bomar wrote:i dunno if that would hold up in court...hes basically saying he won't treat you (and the sign doesn't say come on it anyway and I will, jk hahah lol)iclfan2 wrote: He isn't refusing treatment. So....
His sign refuses care.
Same as Irish need not apply.
Oh I am only joking come on in and really ask and I will give you an application.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 2, 2010 2:04pm
No it doesn't. I can send the IRS letter upon letter stating that I am not going to pay my taxes, but they can't do anything about it until April 15th comes and goes.BCSbunk wrote:His sign says so!LJ wrote:How else are you going to prove that he wouldn't?derek bomar wrote:so, is it the Obama supporters job to walk in anyway and find out if he would treat them?LJ wrote:No he isn't, he is saying that he doesn't want to treat you. C'mon, I think it's a stupid and petty thing to do just as much as the next person, but until someone comes in and says "I've got a giant cancerous kidney tumor, will you remove it?" and he says "no", it's a moot, rhetorical argument.derek bomar wrote:i dunno if that would hold up in court...hes basically saying he won't treat you (and the sign doesn't say come on it anyway and I will, jk hahah lol)iclfan2 wrote: He isn't refusing treatment. So....
His sign refuses care.
Same as Irish need not apply.
Oh I am only joking come on in and really ask and I will give you an application.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Apr 2, 2010 2:04pm
isn't it standard for most doctors who "conscientiously object" to a treatment or service to give you another option for said service/treatment? He doesn't say go to this doctor, he basically says GFY...LJ wrote:How else are you going to prove that he wouldn't?derek bomar wrote:so, is it the Obama supporters job to walk in anyway and find out if he would treat them?LJ wrote:No he isn't, he is saying that he doesn't want to treat you. C'mon, I think it's a stupid and petty thing to do just as much as the next person, but until someone comes in and says "I've got a giant cancerous kidney tumor, will you remove it?" and he says "no", it's a moot, rhetorical argument.derek bomar wrote:i dunno if that would hold up in court...hes basically saying he won't treat you (and the sign doesn't say come on it anyway and I will, jk hahah lol)iclfan2 wrote: He isn't refusing treatment. So....
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Apr 2, 2010 2:06pm
I mean, I think most people really aren't aware that he would have to treat them...and I think that's the rub
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 2, 2010 2:07pm
He hasn't declined treatment to anyone.derek bomar wrote:isn't it standard for most doctors who "conscientiously object" to a treatment or service to give you another option for said service/treatment? He doesn't say go to this doctor, he basically says GFY...LJ wrote:How else are you going to prove that he wouldn't?derek bomar wrote:so, is it the Obama supporters job to walk in anyway and find out if he would treat them?LJ wrote:No he isn't, he is saying that he doesn't want to treat you. C'mon, I think it's a stupid and petty thing to do just as much as the next person, but until someone comes in and says "I've got a giant cancerous kidney tumor, will you remove it?" and he says "no", it's a moot, rhetorical argument.derek bomar wrote:i dunno if that would hold up in court...hes basically saying he won't treat you (and the sign doesn't say come on it anyway and I will, jk hahah lol)iclfan2 wrote: He isn't refusing treatment. So....
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Apr 2, 2010 2:10pm
I get he hasn't actually done it, but he's saying he's going to do it...and for the common person, that would be enough to assume he won't treat them (if they supported the chosen one)LJ wrote:He hasn't declined treatment to anyone.derek bomar wrote:isn't it standard for most doctors who "conscientiously object" to a treatment or service to give you another option for said service/treatment? He doesn't say go to this doctor, he basically says GFY...LJ wrote:How else are you going to prove that he wouldn't?derek bomar wrote:so, is it the Obama supporters job to walk in anyway and find out if he would treat them?LJ wrote:No he isn't, he is saying that he doesn't want to treat you. C'mon, I think it's a stupid and petty thing to do just as much as the next person, but until someone comes in and says "I've got a giant cancerous kidney tumor, will you remove it?" and he says "no", it's a moot, rhetorical argument.derek bomar wrote:i dunno if that would hold up in court...hes basically saying he won't treat you (and the sign doesn't say come on it anyway and I will, jk hahah lol)iclfan2 wrote: He isn't refusing treatment. So....
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BCSbunk
Posts: 972
Apr 2, 2010 2:13pm
He is refusing treatment.LJ wrote:No it doesn't. I can send the IRS letter upon letter stating that I am not going to pay my taxes, but they can't do anything about it until April 15th comes and goes.BCSbunk wrote:His sign says so!LJ wrote:How else are you going to prove that he wouldn't?derek bomar wrote:so, is it the Obama supporters job to walk in anyway and find out if he would treat them?LJ wrote:No he isn't, he is saying that he doesn't want to treat you. C'mon, I think it's a stupid and petty thing to do just as much as the next person, but until someone comes in and says "I've got a giant cancerous kidney tumor, will you remove it?" and he says "no", it's a moot, rhetorical argument.derek bomar wrote:i dunno if that would hold up in court...hes basically saying he won't treat you (and the sign doesn't say come on it anyway and I will, jk hahah lol)iclfan2 wrote: He isn't refusing treatment. So....
His sign refuses care.
Same as Irish need not apply.
Oh I am only joking come on in and really ask and I will give you an application.
If I ask you as Doctor to treat me and you say Seek treatment elsewhere. that is a refusal. True or false?
If I come to your office and there is a sign on your door that says BCSbunk seek treatment elsewhere what am I to think of that?
Oh he is kidding around? Oh he can't be serious? Oh I better go in and talk to him because I am stupid and do not understand plain English on his sign he wrote?
Hopefully this POS gets his license revoked.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 2, 2010 2:17pm
:rolleyes: Isn't that what I have been saying all along? lolBCSbunk wrote:He is refusing treatment.LJ wrote:
No it doesn't. I can send the IRS letter upon letter stating that I am not going to pay my taxes, but they can't do anything about it until April 15th comes and goes.
If I ask you as Doctor to treat me and you say Seek treatment elsewhere. that is a refusal. True or false?
Until someone tries to get treatment and he says "no", he won't.Hopefully this POS gets his license revoked.
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BCSbunk
Posts: 972
Apr 2, 2010 2:21pm
My point is the note is the same as the words face to face.LJ wrote::rolleyes: Isn't that what I have been saying all along? lolBCSbunk wrote:He is refusing treatment.LJ wrote:
No it doesn't. I can send the IRS letter upon letter stating that I am not going to pay my taxes, but they can't do anything about it until April 15th comes and goes.
If I ask you as Doctor to treat me and you say Seek treatment elsewhere. that is a refusal. True or false?
Until someone tries to get treatment and he says "no", he won't.Hopefully this POS gets his license revoked.
If I tell you seek treatment elsewhere to your face that is a refusal.
If I give you a note that says seek treatment elsewhere that is a refusal.
They are one and the same.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 2, 2010 2:23pm
No they aren't, but you are welcome to think that they are.BCSbunk wrote:My point is the note is the same as the words face to face.LJ wrote::rolleyes: Isn't that what I have been saying all along? lolBCSbunk wrote:He is refusing treatment.LJ wrote:
No it doesn't. I can send the IRS letter upon letter stating that I am not going to pay my taxes, but they can't do anything about it until April 15th comes and goes.
If I ask you as Doctor to treat me and you say Seek treatment elsewhere. that is a refusal. True or false?
Until someone tries to get treatment and he says "no", he won't.Hopefully this POS gets his license revoked.
If I tell you seek treatment elsewhere to your face that is a refusal.
If I give you a note that says seek treatment elsewhere that is a refusal.
They are one and the same.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 2, 2010 3:22pm
The guy is a dick doctor...very appropos.
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berry
Posts: 475
Apr 2, 2010 3:24pm
Footwedge wrote: The guy is a dick doctor...very appropos.
That's so confusing. Why would an Obama supporter need a dick doctor.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Apr 2, 2010 3:31pm
This guy is a humongous douche bag. He should get a reprimand from whoever does that in the medical field but i think until he actually carries out that promise it'd be a bit harsh to take his license. But a stern talking to/warning/forced apology might be appropriate.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Apr 2, 2010 4:12pm
He isn't breaking the law, just be a huge jerk. I hope he loses a bunch of patients.
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Apr 2, 2010 4:32pm
An American Hero
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 2, 2010 4:41pm
urologists deal with one of the strangest forms of cancer, kidney cancer. I wouldn't just call them "dick doctors".Footwedge wrote: The guy is a dick doctor...very appropos.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 2, 2010 4:59pm
I never said they were just dick doctors...but they are in fact dick doctors. They deal in urination problems and sexual problems for males. Those 2 listed are the functions of one's dick, So, my statement is true. This guy is a dick doctor.LJ wrote:urologists deal with one of the strangest forms of cancer, kidney cancer. I wouldn't just call them "dick doctors".Footwedge wrote: The guy is a dick doctor...very appropos.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 2, 2010 5:04pm
Maybe if a urologist saved your dad's life you wouldn't call them dick doctorsFootwedge wrote:I never said they were just dick doctors...but they are in fact dick doctors. They deal in urination problems and sexual problems for males. Those 2 listed are the functions of one's dick, So, my statement is true. This guy is a dick doctor.LJ wrote:urologists deal with one of the strangest forms of cancer, kidney cancer. I wouldn't just call them "dick doctors".Footwedge wrote: The guy is a dick doctor...very appropos.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Apr 2, 2010 6:40pm
Lol why it is not a form of racial discrimination or sexism or ageism so technically there is no problem and also if you are dying and going to the doctors office well then u deserve to. Dying people go to a HOSPITAL!!!gibby08 wrote: Whatever he's doing...it's really stupid of him to do this and he could get in major trouble
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 2, 2010 7:43pm
I would say that the dick doctor saved my dad's life. And I would have a good laugh with my dad in discussing it.LJ wrote:Maybe if a urologist saved your dad's life you wouldn't call them dick doctorsFootwedge wrote:I never said they were just dick doctors...but they are in fact dick doctors. They deal in urination problems and sexual problems for males. Those 2 listed are the functions of one's dick, So, my statement is true. This guy is a dick doctor.LJ wrote:urologists deal with one of the strangest forms of cancer, kidney cancer. I wouldn't just call them "dick doctors".Footwedge wrote: The guy is a dick doctor...very appropos.
Calling one a dick doctor is far different than calling a doctor a dick. But in the context of this thread, this dick doctor is also an obvious dick....and as such, will probably have an entry made on his behalf in dickipedia. Do you want me to explain about Peter Piper and his pickled peppers now?
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Apr 2, 2010 8:03pm
As long as the patient is not in need of emergent care, it is appropriate for a physcian to refuse to see a patient if they so wish. Physicians often decide to disengage a patient for a number of reasons (ie. reepearted uncompliant treatment, non-payment/late payment of bills, harrassing office staff, conflicts with personality, etc.).
Just as a physcian ha a right to not treat these patients, the patients have the right to go to another doctor. In the long run, this could hurt him from an economic point of view.
Just as a physcian ha a right to not treat these patients, the patients have the right to go to another doctor. In the long run, this could hurt him from an economic point of view.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 2, 2010 8:37pm
Why would you have a good laugh about a kidney tumor twice the size of his kidney? Want me to explain how you aren't being funny and struck a personal nerve with me now?Footwedge wrote:I would say that the dick doctor saved my dad's life. And I would have a good laugh with my dad in discussing it.LJ wrote:Maybe if a urologist saved your dad's life you wouldn't call them dick doctorsFootwedge wrote:I never said they were just dick doctors...but they are in fact dick doctors. They deal in urination problems and sexual problems for males. Those 2 listed are the functions of one's dick, So, my statement is true. This guy is a dick doctor.LJ wrote:urologists deal with one of the strangest forms of cancer, kidney cancer. I wouldn't just call them "dick doctors".Footwedge wrote: The guy is a dick doctor...very appropos.
Calling one a dick doctor is far different than calling a doctor a dick. But in the context of this thread, this dick doctor is also an obvious dick....and as such, will probably have an entry made on his behalf in dickipedia. Do you want me to explain about Peter Piper and his pickled peppers now?
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Apr 2, 2010 9:03pm
The guy is just looking out for #1.
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Swamp Fox
Posts: 2,218
Apr 2, 2010 10:56pm
I think that if I walk into a doctor's office and see a sign that says if I support someone politically that the "doctor" doesn't, I should seek treatment elsewhere,that that is about as clear a case of refusal to treat as I have ever seen. At the very least, I would not demand he treat me because I would not have much confidence in him as my physician. I think it would be about as unprofessional and worthy of having his license pulled as anything I could possibly imagine. There is simply no excuse for it.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Apr 2, 2010 11:50pm
I agree with this. Why would anyone want to demand their physician treat them. No thank you I would go elsewhere. As much as I disagree with the federal government increasing its involvement in the health care field, the doctors office is not the place to make that stand.Swamp Fox wrote:At the very least, I would not demand he treat me because I would not have much confidence in him as my physician.