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gibby08

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Apr 6, 2010 1:21 AM
My thoughts exactly pants

ptown,in no way am I trying to say that everything is rosey,but the "republic and country is dead" crowd should at least acknowledge that this the economic reports coming out in the last few days is good news and things are starting to look up and get better
Apr 6, 2010 1:21am
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queencitybuckeye

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Apr 6, 2010 6:30 AM
Gblock wrote: bush was in office all that time and nobody was even mentioning politics and now its life or death every week every decsion.
You have to be fucking kidding with this.
Apr 6, 2010 6:30am
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Apr 6, 2010 8:12 AM
queencitybuckeye wrote:
Gblock wrote: bush was in office all that time and nobody was even mentioning politics and now its life or death every week every decsion.
You have to be fucking kidding with this.

Haha my thoughts exactly.... How old are you Gblock? Cause if you paid any attention during the 8 years Bush was in office it was nothing but politics. The only time Bush wasn't shoveling shit out of the white house (put there by the media) was right after 9/11. His last 3-4 years were especially brutal and heavily scrutinized by everyone. You either have been under a rock for the last 10 years or are 15 and weren't old enough to understand what was going on.
Apr 6, 2010 8:12am
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Apr 6, 2010 9:02 AM
Bush did some things pretty well. Bush did many things that left him very vulnerable for bashing, which he got. On the old site, I don't know if the politics forum was open during the whole time he was President, so maybe that is what is being referred to. I think alot of people got desensitized from BushBashing also. There just simply wasn't anything left to bash LOL!

But that was then and this is now. President Obama is the target now. And like it or not, that is who WILL be catching the publics's ire. It's just the way it is. Some of the posters here have to step back and not take it too personally. Remember, whoever the next President will be will get their daily dose of it also. Until or if the people can get our government straightened out, nobody will be safe from being bashed.
Apr 6, 2010 9:02am
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Apr 6, 2010 11:33 AM
Footwedge wrote:
jmog wrote:
Manhattan Buckeye wrote: Swamp fox, congrats on your wife's choice, unfortunately, she is in the minority. There are millions of Americans unemployed not out of choice. I don't know what it will take to beat in some people's heads that we are in the worst labor situation since the '40's. That's not politics, it is reality.
1982 unemployement peaked at 10.8%, 2009 unemployment peaked at 10.1%. So no, its not the worst labor situation since the '40s.

I hate when the liberal media tries to spin it that way and the sad thing is people actually buy it, as evidence by your post.
The liberal media is spinning the unemployment as being overly high? When a preceived liberal is running the WH? Doesn't make sense to me.

Also, the numbers cited by the government do not reflect the real unemployment figures.

Most would place it at or around 16% or 17%. And that doesn't even include the underemployed...which continues to rise.
Sure it makes sense -- it has from the beginning.

Obama is not now, nor has he ever been blamed for this economy by the people with the pens, microphones and computers. By the media repeating how horrid the economy is (worst since the Great Depression) they BUY HIM POLITICAL TIME for things to turn around.

Some of you keep repeating this same mantra (he's only been in office a year; this is the worst economy we've seen in decades; it's too soon to judge him).

Fact is, the economy and whether it starts getting better and creating jobs is now Obama's. He took ownership of it when he claimed his stimulus bill would keep unemployment from rising above 8 percent -- and it failed miserably...and has continued to fail at creating jobs.

That is an area on which Obama and the Dems will be judged in all future elections, and rightly so.
Apr 6, 2010 11:33am
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Apr 6, 2010 11:39 AM
CenterBHSFan wrote: Bush did some things pretty well. Bush did many things that left him very vulnerable for bashing, which he got. On the old site, I don't know if the politics forum was open during the whole time he was President, so maybe that is what is being referred to. I think alot of people got desensitized from BushBashing also. There just simply wasn't anything left to bash LOL!

But that was then and this is now. President Obama is the target now. And like it or not, that is who WILL be catching the publics's ire. It's just the way it is. Some of the posters here have to step back and not take it too personally. Remember, whoever the next President will be will get their daily dose of it also. Until or if the people can get our government straightened out, nobody will be safe from being bashed.
The old site only allowed politics starting in 2008 (by the time Bush was in his last year). However, if anyone would pull up any other site which allowed such discussion, they would have seen the drivel going all the way back from day one of the Bush presidency.

I agree with your other point. As the POTUS is a target for criticism. If blogspots were in existance during George Washington's administration, you can guarantee there would be people critcizing him much as they do today.
Apr 6, 2010 11:39am
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Gblock

Apr 6, 2010 3:26 PM
goosebumps wrote:
queencitybuckeye wrote:
Gblock wrote: bush was in office all that time and nobody was even mentioning politics and now its life or death every week every decsion.
You have to be fucking kidding with this.

Haha my thoughts exactly.... How old are you Gblock? Cause if you paid any attention during the 8 years Bush was in office it was nothing but politics. The only time Bush wasn't shoveling shit out of the white house (put there by the media) was right after 9/11. His last 3-4 years were especially brutal and heavily scrutinized by everyone. You either have been under a rock for the last 10 years or are 15 and weren't old enough to understand what was going on.
outside of 9/11 or iraq it was pretty quiet....on the old huddle there werent 10 percent of political threads as there are now. now it has its own section.
Apr 6, 2010 3:26pm
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Apr 6, 2010 3:27 PM
Gblock wrote:
goosebumps wrote:
queencitybuckeye wrote:
Gblock wrote: bush was in office all that time and nobody was even mentioning politics and now its life or death every week every decsion.
You have to be fucking kidding with this.

Haha my thoughts exactly.... How old are you Gblock? Cause if you paid any attention during the 8 years Bush was in office it was nothing but politics. The only time Bush wasn't shoveling shit out of the white house (put there by the media) was right after 9/11. His last 3-4 years were especially brutal and heavily scrutinized by everyone. You either have been under a rock for the last 10 years or are 15 and weren't old enough to understand what was going on.
outside of 9/11 or iraq it was pretty quiet....on the old huddle there werent 10 percent of political threads as there are now. now it has its own section.
Politics were banned on the old huddle until they opened up the rules a teeny tiny bit and started a politics foru,.
Apr 6, 2010 3:27pm
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Apr 6, 2010 3:42 PM
well it seems that since obama that everyone is hating on every decision not just on here. i know people who never had a conversation about politics who are now spending all their time complaining and overanalyzing things....give it some time and give it a chance...i personally couldnt care who the president is, but as a member of this country ill support them. if i dont like what they do ill vote against them, but sheesh has the guy done anything right?....
Apr 6, 2010 3:42pm
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Apr 6, 2010 5:06 PM
Gblock wrote: well it seems that since obama that everyone is hating on every decision not just on here. i know people who never had a conversation about politics who are now spending all their time complaining and overanalyzing things....give it some time and give it a chance...i personally couldnt care who the president is, but as a member of this country ill support them. if i dont like what they do ill vote against them, but sheesh has the guy done anything right?....
On the economy (since that's the topic here)? Nothing much right that I can think of.

He left Gitmo open (good) and has taken a strong stand in Afghanistan (also good). And he's rethinking the whole putting terrorists on trial in NYC thing, so that's probably good as well.
Apr 6, 2010 5:06pm
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Footwedge

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Apr 6, 2010 5:07 PM
Gblock wrote: decision but sheesh has the guy done anything right?....
He beat Clark Kellogg in a game of horse....well actually...they changed the letters to POTUS.
Apr 6, 2010 5:07pm
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QuakerOats

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Apr 8, 2010 9:43 AM
Jobless claims rise ....... again.

When socilaists are in charge of economic policy, this is what you will contintue to get:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Initial-jobless-claims-apf-355511092.html?x=0&.v=7

In Ohio alone, 450,000 jobs lost under democrat state leadership in three years; and 200,000 lost since the 'stimulus'.

When every policy coming out of D.C. is anti-growth, anti-business, anti-private sector, no improvevement can be expected.

The only thing that has grown under obama/pelosi/reid is .................... GOVERNMENT!

Change we can believe in ......................
Apr 8, 2010 9:43am
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Apr 8, 2010 1:46 PM
QuakerOats wrote: Jobless claims rise ....... again.

When socilaists are in charge of economic policy, this is what you will contintue to get:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Initial-jobless-claims-apf-355511092.html?x=0&.v=7

In Ohio alone, 450,000 jobs lost under democrat state leadership in three years; and 200,000 lost since the 'stimulus'.

When every policy coming out of D.C. is anti-growth, anti-business, anti-private sector, no improvevement can be expected.

The only thing that has grown under obama/pelosi/reid is .................... GOVERNMENT!

Change we can believe in ......................

Do you have proof to back up those claims?? I doubt you do

Also...you seem to have missed these parts

WHILE TOTAL BENEFIT ROLLS DROP

Slightly more than 5.8 million people were receiving extended benefits in the week ended March 20, the latest data available, a drop of about 230,000 from the previous week. The extended benefit data isn't seasonally adjusted and is volatile from week to week.

Other recent reports have indicated that employers are slowly ramping up hiring. The Labor Department said Friday that the nation added a net total of 162,000 jobs in March, the most in three years. The unemployment rate held at 9.7 percent for the third straight month.
Apr 8, 2010 1:46pm
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Apr 8, 2010 2:38 PM
Things will slowly improve and it will break Conservative's hearts around the country. God forbid we climb out of this current economic mess and start to show real growth, but it will happen. When the new recipients of the health care package begin to use their new benefits, there will be a large and very enthusiastic base of support for President Obama in 2012. The very loud minority of Conservative anti Obama folks will lose steam and Obama's numbers will continue to rebound. Moderate Republicans who just coudn't deal with the positions of the Conservative Republican Tea Party crowd, will remain outside the "new" Republican group and be a big help to the Democrats in 2012. The Conservatives keep saying they can hardly wait until 2012, but they should be warned that it may not be quite as happy a time as they once thought it would be. When small business takes advantage of the Obama tax breaks and kids can get additiobnal funding for college, an entire new generation of Obama supporters will begin to emerge and the only thing the Conservatives will be able to say is what they have always been saying. "No,no,no,no,no ad nauseum."
Apr 8, 2010 2:38pm
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Apr 8, 2010 4:16 PM
Gonna be hard for that base of folks receiving health care bennies when most don't really take effect until 2014, isn't it?

As for the "no,no,no,no,no" schtick -- you need new material.

No is NOT a bad word when saying yes means you're hurting yourself.
Apr 8, 2010 4:16pm
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queencitybuckeye

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Apr 8, 2010 4:36 PM
Swamp Fox wrote: Things will slowly improve and it will break Conservative's hearts around the country. God forbid we climb out of this current economic mess and start to show real growth, but it will happen.
The unfortunate part is that the dull will believe that the policies of this administration was a primary cause of the recovery, and half the people who know better will pretend it's so due to political partisanship.
Apr 8, 2010 4:36pm
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Apr 8, 2010 4:41 PM
When every policy coming out of D.C. is anti-growth, anti-business, anti-private sector, no improvevement can be expected.
While I agree with the sentiment, we are coming off a decade in which we had the low tax rates, lax regulation, and pro-private sector policies, and for the decade as a whole we saw a net job loss.

If tax cuts and pro business regulation didn't create jobs then, how are we to reasonably expect more of the same will produce new jobs?

What we need is a third party to emerge that offers solutions that have a realistic chance of working, because we have seen that conservative policies of last decade didn't grow jobs, and BHO's policies aren't growing jobs. What we need is a group not tied to dogmatic ideology to put forth realistic solutions to a real jobs crisis in this country.
Apr 8, 2010 4:41pm
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QuakerOats

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Apr 8, 2010 4:52 PM
IggyPride00 wrote:
When every policy coming out of D.C. is anti-growth, anti-business, anti-private sector, no improvevement can be expected.
While I agree with the sentiment, we are coming off a decade in which we had the low tax rates, lax regulation, and pro-private sector policies, and for the decade as a whole we saw a net job loss.

If tax cuts and pro business regulation didn't create jobs then, how are we to reasonably expect more of the same will produce new jobs?

What we need is a third party to emerge that offers solutions that have a realistic chance of working, because we have seen that conservative policies of last decade didn't grow jobs, and BHO's policies aren't growing jobs. What we need is a group not tied to dogmatic ideology to put forth realistic solutions to a real jobs crisis in this country.
Actually we had job growth under Bush, despite the 9/11 attacks and the resultant recession. It was the Bush tax cuts that spurred such growth. Since late '08 we have had massive job losses, but unfortunately the remedy for the ailment is not what D.C. is prescribing. If we don't turn that around real soon, we might not have a chance of ever turning it around. Massive new deficit spending that DWARFS anything Bush ever did is NOT the answer.
Apr 8, 2010 4:52pm
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Apr 8, 2010 5:03 PM
gibby08 wrote:
Do you have proof to back up those claims?? I doubt you do


"From December 2008 to December 2009, more than 255,000 Ohio jobs disappeared, according to revised, seasonally adjusted numbers. The state now has a bit fewer than 5 million jobs."

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/business/stories/2010/03/27/ohios-2009-job-losses-revised-up.html

The stimulus was a transfer payment ...................
Apr 8, 2010 5:03pm
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Apr 8, 2010 6:02 PM
QuakerOats wrote:
IggyPride00 wrote:
When every policy coming out of D.C. is anti-growth, anti-business, anti-private sector, no improvevement can be expected.
While I agree with the sentiment, we are coming off a decade in which we had the low tax rates, lax regulation, and pro-private sector policies, and for the decade as a whole we saw a net job loss.

If tax cuts and pro business regulation didn't create jobs then, how are we to reasonably expect more of the same will produce new jobs?

What we need is a third party to emerge that offers solutions that have a realistic chance of working, because we have seen that conservative policies of last decade didn't grow jobs, and BHO's policies aren't growing jobs. What we need is a group not tied to dogmatic ideology to put forth realistic solutions to a real jobs crisis in this country.
Actually we had job growth under Bush, despite the 9/11 attacks and the resultant recession. It was the Bush tax cuts that spurred such growth. Since late '08 we have had massive job losses, but unfortunately the remedy for the ailment is not what D.C. is prescribing. If we don't turn that around real soon, we might not have a chance of ever turning it around. Massive new deficit spending that DWARFS anything Bush ever did is NOT the answer.
The answer is not tax cuts.
Apr 8, 2010 6:02pm
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QuakerOats

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Apr 8, 2010 7:07 PM
I Wear Pants wrote:
The answer is not tax cuts.
You're right; it's tax cuts AND REAL government spending cuts.
Apr 8, 2010 7:07pm
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Apr 8, 2010 8:38 PM
QuakerOats wrote:
gibby08 wrote:
Do you have proof to back up those claims?? I doubt you do


"From December 2008 to December 2009, more than 255,000 Ohio jobs disappeared, according to revised, seasonally adjusted numbers. The state now has a bit fewer than 5 million jobs."

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/business/stories/2010/03/27/ohios-2009-job-losses-revised-up.html

The stimulus was a transfer payment ...................

And that proves your point of every policy out of Dc being anti-business and anti-growth??
Apr 8, 2010 8:38pm
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Apr 8, 2010 8:51 PM
QuakerOats wrote:
IggyPride00 wrote:
When every policy coming out of D.C. is anti-growth, anti-business, anti-private sector, no improvevement can be expected.
While I agree with the sentiment, we are coming off a decade in which we had the low tax rates, lax regulation, and pro-private sector policies, and for the decade as a whole we saw a net job loss.

If tax cuts and pro business regulation didn't create jobs then, how are we to reasonably expect more of the same will produce new jobs?

What we need is a third party to emerge that offers solutions that have a realistic chance of working, because we have seen that conservative policies of last decade didn't grow jobs, and BHO's policies aren't growing jobs. What we need is a group not tied to dogmatic ideology to put forth realistic solutions to a real jobs crisis in this country.
Actually we had job growth under Bush, despite the 9/11 attacks and the resultant recession. It was the Bush tax cuts that spurred such growth. Since late '08 we have had massive job losses, but unfortunately the remedy for the ailment is not what D.C. is prescribing. If we don't turn that around real soon, we might not have a chance of ever turning it around. Massive new deficit spending that DWARFS anything Bush ever did is NOT the answer.
We had growth, but then everything collapsed in 2007/2008, which outweighed and undid all the growth.
Apr 8, 2010 8:51pm
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Cleveland Buck

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Apr 8, 2010 11:53 PM
Well, the collapse in 2008 had little to do with what Bush did. It was a whole host of fuck ups that led to that.
Apr 8, 2010 11:53pm
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Apr 9, 2010 12:36 AM
what we had was a president making tax cuts like a conservative and then spending like a liberal
Apr 9, 2010 12:36am