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Jan 18, 2010 12:27 PM


arrested for cheering? Stupid NFL rules
Jan 18, 2010 12:27pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:32 PM
Eh, the video cuts out, so its hard to tell.
Jan 18, 2010 12:32pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:32 PM
What a bunch of bullshit. This is why some people dont like cops. There were Charger fans saying the man was doing nothing but cheering for his team.
Jan 18, 2010 12:32pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:37 PM
yeah the video does cut out, I'd like to see more of what happened. But the guy was kind of asking for it. This might have been an anticipatory arrest. They might have observed what he was doing and tried to stop him before he incited a riot.
Jan 18, 2010 12:37pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:38 PM
All the Charger fans around him are saying he didn't do anything. I'm gonna go with their word on that.
Jan 18, 2010 12:38pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:39 PM
jordo212000 wrote: yeah the video does cut out, I'd like to see more of what happened. But the guy was kind of asking for it. This might have been an anticipatory arrest. They might have observed what he was doing and tried to stop him before he incited a riot.
That's called a false arrest
Jan 18, 2010 12:39pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:42 PM
LJ wrote: That's called a false arrest
Yeah, I wasn't taking up for the guy nor was I saying the police were right. Just giving my $.02.
Jan 18, 2010 12:42pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:44 PM
jordo212000 wrote: yeah the video does cut out, I'd like to see more of what happened. But the guy was kind of asking for it. This might have been an anticipatory arrest. They might have observed what he was doing and tried to stop him before he incited a riot.
Anticipatory arrest???? I hope that was not the case. If police started doing that, they might as well just pull over any sports car going down the road in case the driver decides to speed. IF what the video is portraying is correct, then that is a major abuse of power and the police should be punished accordingly.
Jan 18, 2010 12:44pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:45 PM
And as to the "false arrest" cops have alot leeway with the law. They could have simply charged the guy with disorderly conduct
Jan 18, 2010 12:45pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:48 PM
jordo212000 wrote: And as to the "false arrest" cops have alot leeway with the law. They could have simply charged the guy with disorderly conduct or
Cheering at a football game is not disorderly conduct?
Jan 18, 2010 12:48pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:48 PM
elbuckeye28 wrote: Anticipatory arrest???? I hope that was not the case. If police started doing that, they might as well just pull over any sports car going down the road in case the driver decides to speed. IF what the video is portraying is correct, then that is a major abuse of power and the police should be punished accordingly.
somebody didn't read on... haha. Just saying why I thought a guy who got arrested, who from all appearances seemed to be doing nothing wrong except yelling at other fans, might get arrested.
Jan 18, 2010 12:48pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:50 PM
I think it all boils down to the NFL's shitty fan conduct policy. There are fans on another forum where I found this saying that they were tossed from opposing team stadiums in the past 2 seasons for cheering LESS than this guy.
Jan 18, 2010 12:50pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:54 PM
LJ wrote: Cheering at a football game is not disorderly conduct?
Its cool. Its okay. You've watched 3 minutes and 40 seconds of one event and you know exactly what happened before the recording happened and what happened before it mysteriously stops and then continues recording.

I got a quick definition of disorderly conduct for you via wikipedia:
"A person who recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally:
1) engages in fighting or in tumultuous conduct;
2) makes unreasonable noise and continues to do so after being asked to stop
3) disrupts a lawful assembly of persons; "

Seems like it would be pretty easy for the cops to peg disorderly conduct on this guy. Not saying it was right or that he should have been arrested (he shouldn't have...)
Jan 18, 2010 12:54pm
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Jan 18, 2010 12:56 PM
jordo212000 wrote:
LJ wrote: Cheering at a football game is not disorderly conduct?
Its cool. Its okay. You've watched 3 minutes and 40 seconds of one event and you know exactly what happened before the recording happened and what happened before it mysteriously stops and then continues recording.

I got a quick definition of disorderly conduct for you via wikipedia:
"A person who recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally:
1) engages in fighting or in tumultuous conduct;
2) makes unreasonable noise and continues to do so after being asked to stop
3) disrupts a lawful assembly of persons; "

Seems like it would be pretty easy for the cops to peg disorderly conduct on this guy. Not saying it was right or that he should have been arrested (he shouldn't have...)

And all the Charger fans around him were saying he didn't do anything and were even getting tossed for standing up for him. I think I will take their opinion over someone who wasn't even there.

And if what he did was Disorderly Conduct, we might as well all stay away from opposing teams stadiums.
Jan 18, 2010 12:56pm
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Jan 18, 2010 1:01 PM
Now you can't cheer. LMFAO. Not sure if the powers to be ordered the police security to arrest the guy or if the police took it upon themselves to do so.

I will reserve judgment until it is known which of the parties is the worthless POS.
Jan 18, 2010 1:01pm
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Jan 18, 2010 1:02 PM
I definitely should have been arrested in Cincy last weekend 'cause I was cheering for the Jets.

Unless he was physically or verbally assaulting a Chargers fan, which by the reaction of the Chargers fans he clearly wasn't, there is absolutely no reason for him to be arrested. I am sure if he was being a dick the Chargers fans would have been more than happy to sell him out. Disorderly conduct? I don't think so.
Jan 18, 2010 1:02pm
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Jan 18, 2010 1:03 PM
I hope the cops in Indy are as overzealous as the cops in San Diego. I'm gonna do my best to get arrested this weekend. :)
Jan 18, 2010 1:03pm
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Jan 18, 2010 1:04 PM
LJ wrote: And all the Charger fans around him were saying he didn't do anything and were even getting tossed for standing up for him. I think I will take their opinion over someone who wasn't even there.

And if what he did was Disorderly Conduct, we might as well all stay away from opposing teams stadiums.
its like arguing with a brick wall with you... Once again... because you don't seem to be comprehending this, I do not feel like the guy did anything wrong haha. (that was until he started acting stupid and resisting arrest)

The point was that charges can easily be pegged on you by the police. Disorderly conduct is one of those catch all charges that are very easy to put on somebody
Jan 18, 2010 1:04pm
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Jan 18, 2010 1:05 PM
justincredible wrote: Disorderly conduct? I don't think so.
what else would it have been?
Jan 18, 2010 1:05pm
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Jan 18, 2010 1:06 PM
jordo212000 wrote:
LJ wrote: And all the Charger fans around him were saying he didn't do anything and were even getting tossed for standing up for him. I think I will take their opinion over someone who wasn't even there.

And if what he did was Disorderly Conduct, we might as well all stay away from opposing teams stadiums.
its like arguing with a brick wall with you... Once again... because you don't seem to be comprehending this, I do not feel like the guy did anything wrong haha. (that was until he started acting stupid and resisting arrest)

The point was that charges can easily be pegged on you by the police. Disorderly conduct is one of those catch all charges that are very easy to put on somebody
I'm the brick wall? I have understood what you have been saying, but I have been saying that it's not that easy. Sure they can "charge" him with anything they want. Doesn't mean it's gonna stick, doesn't mean that an investigation won't find that they were false charges, and it doesn't mean that those charges are correct.
Jan 18, 2010 1:06pm
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Jan 18, 2010 1:07 PM
jordo212000 wrote:
justincredible wrote: Disorderly conduct? I don't think so.
what else would it have been?
I'm not saying that isn't what they nabbed him on. I'm saying that it's a bullshit reason if that is the case.
Jan 18, 2010 1:07pm
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Jan 18, 2010 1:07 PM
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justincredible wrote: Disorderly conduct? I don't think so.
what else would it have been?
An arrest based on false premise based on the NFL's ridiculous fan conduct policy.
Jan 18, 2010 1:07pm
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Jan 18, 2010 1:09 PM
LJ wrote:

I'm the brick wall? I have understood what you have been saying, but I have been saying that it's not that easy. Sure they can "charge" him with anything they want. Doesn't mean it's gonna stick, doesn't mean that an investigation won't find that they were false charges, and it doesn't mean that those charges are correct.
Yeah I don't think whatever they arrested him on will stick either (unless there is more to this guy's story that isn't recorded)
Jan 18, 2010 1:09pm
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Jan 18, 2010 1:14 PM
LJ wrote:
jordo212000 wrote: yeah the video does cut out, I'd like to see more of what happened. But the guy was kind of asking for it. This might have been an anticipatory arrest. They might have observed what he was doing and tried to stop him before he incited a riot.
That's called a false arrest
or bad editing. Some other loudmouth (even one on the other side) saying the guy did nothing is less convincing than the Watergate-esque gap in the clip IMO.
Jan 18, 2010 1:14pm
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Jan 18, 2010 1:15 PM
queencitybuckeye wrote:
LJ wrote:
jordo212000 wrote: yeah the video does cut out, I'd like to see more of what happened. But the guy was kind of asking for it. This might have been an anticipatory arrest. They might have observed what he was doing and tried to stop him before he incited a riot.
That's called a false arrest
or bad editing.
Why are people ignoring the fact that the Charger fans around him where saying that he didn't do anything and were even getting tossed themselves for standing up for him? Yeah, seems like bad editing to me
Jan 18, 2010 1:15pm