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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Mar 4, 2016 9:44 AM
Belly35;1784623 wrote:why is everyone the liberal socialist disagrees with a old fart? Hey! shit for brains we where young also at one time, we grump old fart grew up, began to understand, live in the real world.
Take a hint what you want now, is not what you want for your family, yourself or kids later... you'll understand that you work to hard to just have government take it away.
The fact hes a grumpy old fuck has nothing to do with his economic ideas and everything to do with his horrible personality.
Mar 4, 2016 9:44am
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Mar 4, 2016 10:12 AM
Understandable to get bitter with age when everything you worked for for your employees and your family and yourself is on the verge of being stolen by young idiots who call themselves progressives giving BIG government the green light to confiscate production, earnings, and wealth and redistribute it to those who contribute little to nothing.

Heck, bitter will just be the beginning; how about a literal fight about it someday.
Mar 4, 2016 10:12am
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Mar 4, 2016 10:28 AM
QuakerOats;1784642 wrote:Understandable to get bitter with age when everything you worked for for your employees and your family and yourself is on the verge of being stolen by young idiots who call themselves progressives giving BIG government the green light to confiscate production, earnings, and wealth and redistribute it to those who contribute little to nothing.

Heck, bitter will just be the beginning; how about a literal fight about it someday.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to QuakerOats again.
Mar 4, 2016 10:28am
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Mar 4, 2016 2:46 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784594 wrote:Wow. All those taxes and still 7% growth.
Because that's the tax rates aren't remotely correlated with receipts.

Tax rates have varied wildly, but revenues have generally been within +/- 1% of 18.2% of GDP. And that's partly because of loopholes and deductions, but also because taxes for the wealthy are "voluntary" in the sense that capital gains can be deferred for years before they are realized for tax purposes.
Mar 4, 2016 2:46pm
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Mar 4, 2016 5:56 PM
QuakerOats;1784642 wrote:Understandable to get bitter with age when everything you worked for for your employees and your family and yourself is on the verge of being stolen by young idiots who call themselves progressives giving BIG government the green light to confiscate production, earnings, and wealth and redistribute it to those who contribute little to nothing.

Heck, bitter will just be the beginning; how about a literal fight about it someday.
I have never agreed with you more
Mar 4, 2016 5:56pm
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Mar 4, 2016 7:58 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to QuakerOats again.
Mar 4, 2016 7:58pm
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Mar 5, 2016 5:35 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784583 wrote:I must have missed the part where he suggested taking control of production back to the government. You were at that rally?
That would be communism not socialism Zwick
Mar 5, 2016 5:35am
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Mar 5, 2016 7:32 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1784615 wrote:The answer to your question was in your question... Majority rules. If the majority doesn't want social programs and higher taxes, then no it shouldn't. If the majority does, then yes it should. It appears in not in the majority since Hillary is winning the nomination and not Bernie. But it also appears the country is shifting that way since Bernie is winning states and taking votes from Hillary. Will we see it in our lifetimes? Who knows.

...k.
Maybe in a pure democracy majority rules but I'm pretty sure just because the majority want something in our country doesn't mean it should or will be. It's never been that way.
Mar 5, 2016 7:32am
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Mar 5, 2016 7:39 AM
jmog;1784764 wrote:That would be communism not socialism Zwick
a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies.

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
Mar 5, 2016 7:39am
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Mar 5, 2016 1:46 PM
The main difference between communism and socialism is the latter pretends not to take over industry, but effectively does the same thing with punishing taxes and regulation. It's an indirect method, but still central planning at the end of the day.
Mar 5, 2016 1:46pm
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Mar 6, 2016 8:11 PM
Bernie blaming Flint's water problems on Corporations and Wall Street.......L...M...F...A...O...
Mar 6, 2016 8:11pm
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Mar 6, 2016 8:20 PM
LOL at asking Hillary if government officials should go to jail over the Flint water crisis.
Mar 6, 2016 8:20pm
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Mar 6, 2016 8:40 PM
Mar 6, 2016 8:40pm
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Mar 6, 2016 9:37 PM
Bernie blaming Flint's water problems on Corporations and Wall Street.......L...M...F...A...O...
LOL at asking Hillary if government officials should go to jail over the Flint water crisis.
what planet are these guys on?
Mar 6, 2016 9:37pm
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Mar 8, 2016 9:19 PM
So much for Hillary being up 21 points in Michigan. How do polls miss that badly?
Mar 8, 2016 9:19pm
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Mar 8, 2016 9:29 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1785232 wrote:So much for Hillary being up 21 points in Michigan. How do polls miss that badly?
this pattern will continue since the email scandal is going to turn into a trial soon
Mar 8, 2016 9:29pm
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Mar 8, 2016 9:39 PM
Spock;1785233 wrote:this pattern will continue since the email scandal is going to turn into a trial soon
It might turn into a trial, but not for Hillary. If you know anything about America, someone like Hillary Clinton will never have to worry.
Mar 8, 2016 9:39pm
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Mar 8, 2016 9:44 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1785237 wrote:It might turn into a trial, but not for Hillary. If you know anything about America, someone like Hillary Clinton will never have to worry.
I wouldn't go that far. Even her husband got impeached and we all know he is 100x the con artist Hillary is.
Mar 8, 2016 9:44pm
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Mar 8, 2016 9:49 PM
like_that;1785239 wrote:I wouldn't go that far. Even her husband got impeached and we all know he is 100x the con artist Hillary is.
Impeached and he's a billionaire today. Like I said.. People like the Clintons never have to worry.
Mar 8, 2016 9:49pm
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Mar 8, 2016 10:17 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1785240 wrote:Impeached and he's a billionaire today. Like I said.. People like the Clintons never have to worry.
He's a billionaire? No wonder Bernie appeals to people like you who struggle with numbers.
Mar 8, 2016 10:17pm
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Mar 8, 2016 10:26 PM
Al Bundy;1785241 wrote:He's a billionaire? No wonder Bernie appeals to people like you who struggle with numbers.
In Zwick's defense he's only $920 million from being a billionaire.
Mar 8, 2016 10:26pm
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Mar 8, 2016 11:09 PM
SportsAndLady;1785242 wrote:In Zwick's defense he's only $920 million from being a billionaire.
In Bernie math, it's all the same :)
Mar 8, 2016 11:09pm
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Mar 9, 2016 5:51 AM
Yeah I stand corrected. I had read between Bill and Hillary and the foundation they're worth 1.1 bill, but it looks like a fluff piece. Everything else looks like Bill is 100 mil, Hillary is 200 mil and the foundation is 200 mil. So half a billion.

Still insanely rich from their net worth prior to his presidency of $350,000
Mar 9, 2016 5:51am
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Mar 9, 2016 7:46 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1785253 wrote:Yeah I stand corrected. I had read between Bill and Hillary and the foundation they're worth 1.1 bill, but it looks like a fluff piece. Everything else looks like Bill is 100 mil, Hillary is 200 mil and the foundation is 200 mil. So half a billion.

Still insanely rich from their net worth prior to his presidency of $350,000
Dude what are you talking about lol

Hillary Clinton is worth roughly $30 million. Bill roughly $80 million.
Mar 9, 2016 7:46am
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Mar 9, 2016 7:59 AM
SportsAndLady;1785259 wrote:Dude what are you talking about lol

Hillary Clinton is worth roughly $30 million. Bill roughly $80 million.
Yeah another fail on me. When it said Hillary was worth 200 mil it counted the foundation.. so yeah they're not close to billionaires.
Mar 9, 2016 7:59am