Izzy walks into a roomisadore;1743676 wrote:Gosh a ruddie that is Charles Dickens' description of Scrooge, who thought the poor should just die and decrease the excess population. We have found his self confessed contemporary manifestation.
isadore;1743686 wrote:bio-hazzzzzard look in the mirror
How can you call me greedy, I offered you a Christmas gift didn't I?
Bio-Hazzzzard;1743710 wrote:gosh a ruddies, you whine about those in need receiving your tax dollars, that is scrooge-like.isadore;1743686 wrote:bio-hazzzzzard look in the mirror
How can you call me greedy, I offered you a Christmas gift didn't I?
isadore;1743711 wrote:gosh a ruddies, you whine about those in need receiving your tax dollars, that is scrooge-like.
gosh a ruddies you begrudge aid to the working poor and the children in single parent households. That is scrooge like. The biggest exploiters of the system are the super rich and corporations but all you can bitch about are those on the lower end of the economic spectrum.Bio-Hazzzzard;1743712 wrote:No sir, I don't whine about those in true need. I only object of those that take advantage of the system.
as a kid living in the project, single parent, welfare cheese (great stuff) the system provided a relief but with goals of being wealth, responsible citizen and a PROVIDER for my family...career entitlement was not an option. Mom worked , I worked, she saved, planned and searcher for better income means... 5 years we walked away for being poor and being responsible of our future and the future of my family.isadore;1743728 wrote:gosh a ruddies you begrudge aid to the working poor and the children in single parent households. That is scrooge like. The biggest exploiters of the system are the super rich and corporations but all you can bitch about are those on the lower end of the economic spectrum.
You are the one that suggesting that heredity is everything in determining animal behavior even when presented with evidence to the contrary from experts.isadore;1743708 wrote:you are the one applying the idea of breeding to humans. animals are breed, humans are not.
gosh a ruddiesHitsRus;1743744 wrote:You are the one that suggesting that heredity is everything in determining animal behavior even when presented with evidence to the contrary from experts.
Gosh a ruddies I am not the one who begrudges providing support for those in need. All one has to do is read this thread to see the hatred expressed toward those with the least resource in our society.Belly35;1743743 wrote:as a kid living in the project, single parent, welfare cheese (great stuff) the system provided a relief but with goals of being wealth, responsible citizen and a PROVIDER for my family...career entitlement was not an option. Mom worked , I worked, she saved, planned and searcher for better income means... 5 years we walked away for being poor and being responsible of our future and the future of my family.
I witness individual that expected, taught and depended on the government to be the PROVIDER. No goals, no ambition, no self worth, trapped into a system that does not incourage achievement but rewards additional failure. I'm thankful for that five years of support yes but would I be as thankful of 25 years of government aid or like you bitter, hater,anger and frustrated.... Finding blame of the rich because my goals of wealth was suppressed by a system of rewarding failure and enslaving people the right to be a PROVIDER.
i was given away to a family member at birth, single parent and poor. My resource was the same as many other poverty families, same intercity public school, same hard project life style, same option of military, college and work...isadore;1743762 wrote:Gosh a ruddies I am not the one who begrudges providing support for those in need. All one has to do is read this thread to see the hatred expressed toward those with the least resource in our society
So let's eliminate the welfare state and offer to hire the unemployed instead.Bio-Hazzzzard;1743712 wrote:No sir, I don't whine about those in true need. I only object of those that take advantage of the system.
Belly35;1743836 wrote:i was given away to a family member at birth, single parent and poor. My resource was the same as many other poverty families, same intercity public school, same hard project life style, same option of military, college and work...
You never lived in poverty, poor and hungry, beaten, belittled and suppressed by your own failures.
I will say it again because I've seen it, live with it and watched childhood friends believe it... Poor families living on the government at some point believe that this is the norm and give up ... Poor people are poor because the want to be poor.
The become enslaved in a system that reward failure, dependency and laziness
poverty is in America a taught behavior ...
I am easily the most "liberal" person who posts here from time to time and yet here it is evident that we do not disagree that much.Bio-Hazzzzard;1743504 wrote:
Should able bodied persons be required to perform an 8 hour civic duty in order to collect welfare?
​Why can you not answer this simple question?
majorspark;1742977 wrote:I don't have time to review these numbers. However you are giving an example of a job market in a limited geographical area. It is a personal choice to remain in a given job market is it not? US citizens are free to traverse the national job market with few legal hurdles. This guy at the base is not even willing to leave NYC to cut his living expenses dramatically and perform the exact same job for the same money elsewhere.
Typical. There is only so many slices of the pie to give out. Maybe we need more bakers. So the solution to the problem is to force an employer to provide compensation to an employee greater than his/her value?
You people are all about strict government regulation of economic activity. Should we not have better regulation of the immigrant workforce that would bring in more skilled management type individuals or potential job creators? Why not focus on more developing potential job creators? Any healthy economy should have jobs readily available to those initially entering the work force.
Btw every other time you have told the story about how you grew up on welfare, etc. You said it was yoir mom who raised you as a single mother. In this version you are saying you were given away to another family member??Belly35;1743836 wrote:i was given away to a family member at birth, single parent and poor. My resource was the same as many other poverty families, same intercity public school, same hard project life style, same option of military, college and work...
You never lived in poverty, poor and hungry, beaten, belittled and suppressed by your own failures.
I will say it again because I've seen it, live with it and watched childhood friends believe it... Poor families living on the government at some point believe that this is the norm and give up ... Poor people are poor because the want to be poor.
The become enslaved in a system that reward failure, dependency and laziness
poverty is in America a taught behavior ...
Belly can't keep his stories straight. I'm almost wondering if he was actually in the military. I'm also wondering what projects Belly grew up in.BoatShoes;1743846 wrote:Btw every other time you have told the story about how you grew up on welfare, etc. You said it was yoir mom who raised you as a single mother. In this version you are saying you were given away to another family member??
And some conservatives here including myself have agreed with you that something along this line should replace the welfare state.BoatShoes;1743845 wrote:An employer of last resort through non-profits and social enterprise at a wage below the prevailing private sector wage satisfies all of the concerns you raised.
I would call the female who raised me my mother. His mom may not be the female that gave birth to him. Just sayin.BoatShoes;1743846 wrote:Btw every other time you have told the story about how you grew up on welfare, etc. You said it was yoir mom who raised you as a single mother. In this version you are saying you were given away to another family member??
