Why is it different now? It almost seems like you're making excuses for him. (Maybe I'm reading that wrong) He did it because he was a racist piece of shit. When you say he was mentally ill, it seems to me like you are saying he couldn't help himself.SportsAndLady;1736990 wrote:In 2015, if you lynch a black person you are some sort of mentally deranged. Yes.
Well if you can't tell the difference in racial tension and social norms in 1967 and 2015, I don't know what to tell you.FatHobbit;1737272 wrote:Why is it different now? It almost seems like you're making excuses for him. (Maybe I'm reading that wrong) He did it because he was a racist piece of shit. When you say he was mentally ill, it seems to me like you are saying he couldn't help himself.
If that's the case, why wouldn't they sentence him to a psychiatric facility?SportsAndLady;1737277 wrote:Well if you can't tell the difference in racial tension and social norms in 1967 and 2015, I don't know what to tell you.
And I'm not making excuses for the guy. He's a racist sack of shit who should be burned alive as a death penalty. But he was definitely mentally not-all-there.
Mentally ill doesn't mean he was insane/incompetent. He might "serve" in a psychiatric facility, but it's probably not enough to keep him off death row. One can be seriously mentally ill and still know their actions were wrong, especially when talking about something premeditated.Fab4Runner;1737331 wrote:If that's the case, why wouldn't they sentence him to a psychiatric facility?
But it's almost always a white guy, at least in the US.rmolin73;1737336 wrote:But it seems as if whenever there is a mass murder that is the first label most try and put on the person if it's a white guy.
Truegut;1737337 wrote:But it's almost always a white guy, at least in the US.
Aaron Alexis, the guy who shot up the Navy Yard in DC in September 2013 was black. He was definitely labeled mentally unstable.gut;1737337 wrote:But it's almost always a white guy, at least in the US.
Yeah that's the guy that woulda got you that day if he'd been a better shot right?sleeper;1737379 wrote:Aaron Alexis, the guy who shot up the Navy Yard in DC in September 2013 was black. He was definitely labeled mentally unstable.
I don't know how "mentally ill" this guy is. He said that when he sat down and got to know the people in that church, he "almost couldn't go through with it because they were so nice to him" so he was aware of his actions and knew they were wrong. One would think this would take any insanity defense off the table if they push for the death penalty. I think the dude was more of a racist POS than he was mentally ill.gut;1737335 wrote:Mentally ill doesn't mean he was insane/incompetent. He might "serve" in a psychiatric facility, but it's probably not enough to keep him off death row. One can be seriously mentally ill and still know their actions were wrong, especially when talking about something premeditated.
He very well could have but I was crouched behind a desk in a locked office.Tiernan;1737386 wrote:Yeah that's the guy that woulda got you that day if he'd been a better shot right?
The fact that most, if not all of them have been on some kind of medication for the treatment of mental illness makes it easier.rmolin73;1737336 wrote:The vast majority of murders are a little mentally unstable. But it seems as if whenever there is a mass murder that is the first label most try and put on the person if it's a white guy.
That's my point. You can have serious mental issues but you have to be batshit loco to get off on insanity when it was premeditated. There are plenty of people with serious mental issues who are functional. Saying his mental issues/drug use were likely a significant contributing factor isn't the same as saying he didn't know what he was doing.BR1986FB;1737390 wrote:I don't know how "mentally ill" this guy is. He said that when he sat down and got to know the people in that church, he "almost couldn't go through with it because they were so nice to him" so he was aware of his actions and knew they were wrong. One would think this would take any insanity defense off the table if they push for the death penalty. I think the dude was more of a racist POS than he was mentally ill.
No. Sane or ill, both need put down.Zoltan;1737450 wrote:Should any mental illness shield you from regular sentencing when you killed 9 innocent people? Lots of diseases sentence you to death, and if you have a mental illness that caused you to kill nine people maybe that should too.
Actus reus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea.Zoltan;1737450 wrote:Should any mental illness shield you from regular sentencing when you killed 9 innocent people? Lots of diseases sentence you to death, and if you have a mental illness that caused you to kill nine people maybe that should too.
Come on boys. We don't want any trouble here. Not in any language.Mulva;1737552 wrote:Actus reus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea.
