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2014-2015 Cleveland Cavaliers Season Thread

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Jun 15, 2015 12:04 PM
Exposed for not having a good enough team? Absolutely.

Curry and Co. are taking the game in the 4th. It's no coincidence, it's because they are better.
Jun 15, 2015 12:04pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:05 PM
robj55;1734885 wrote:Zwick says that the Cavs are exposed when it was a 1 point game with 4 minutes left in the game, makes sense.
I think it's a combo of the Warriors having figured out how to beat the Cavs and the Cavs just being dead tired.
Jun 15, 2015 12:05pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:07 PM
This is starting to resemble when Iverson took the Sixers to the finals and had an insane Game 1 vs Lakers but just no contest as his team had no chance against the much better Lakers team.

Golden State should take it in 6....hope something great happens for the Cavs
Jun 15, 2015 12:07pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:09 PM
And that's what it all comes down too.. Cleveland is injured and tired. GS is a better team at the point and deeper.

I will agree with sleeper on one thing.. when you have lebron, you're never fully out of it.
Jun 15, 2015 12:09pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:09 PM
Automatik;1734887 wrote:Exposed for not having a good enough team? Absolutely.

Curry and Co. are taking the game in the 4th. It's no coincidence, it's because they are better.
I don't know that GS has the "better" team. Deeper, yes, but not so much better. The Warriors taking over in the 4th has more to do with fatigue than being better, if you ask me. They have done well at exploiting mismatches.
Jun 15, 2015 12:09pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:12 PM
BR1986FB;1734892 wrote:I don't know that GS has the "better" team. Deeper, yes, but not so much better. The Warriors taking over in the 4th has more to do with fatigue than being better, if you ask me. They have done well at exploiting mismatches.
no at this point they're a better team. They're deeper too, but better starting 5.
Jun 15, 2015 12:12pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:12 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734886 wrote:no way!! did you know it was tied at zero to start?
They even won 2 that way!
Ignorance, nothing new from you.
Jun 15, 2015 12:12pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:13 PM
Automatik;1734887 wrote:Exposed for not having a good enough team? Absolutely.

Curry and Co. are taking the game in the 4th. It's no coincidence, it's because they are better.
And the Cavs' legs are dead come the 4th quarter, last two games it's been evident.
Jun 15, 2015 12:13pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:15 PM
robj55;1734896 wrote:And the Cavs' legs are dead come the 4th quarter, last two games it's been evident.
This was part of my argument. They are going toe to toe, punch for punch, with the Warriors until about halfway through the 4th and then they are just gassed.
Jun 15, 2015 12:15pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:16 PM
It's embarrassing that the Warriors are even struggling to win this series vs this cavs team, all time great team? No way.
Jun 15, 2015 12:16pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:16 PM
robj55;1734895 wrote:Ignorance, nothing new from you.

Ignorance is validating a team by how close they kept it at some point. Care to share thought on game 4? I mean the cavs made a little run late .. did that give you all the evidence you needed to say they're still the better team?
Jun 15, 2015 12:16pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:22 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734899 wrote:Ignorance is validating a team by how close they kept it at some point. Care to share thought on game 4? I mean the cavs made a little run late .. did that give you all the evidence you needed to say they're still the better team?
Game 4 was a 6 point game going into the 4th quarter when the Cavs couldn't make a shot, 4-27 from three. This series has been competitive. Game 4 the Warriors made adjustments and Blatt refused to make his own until game 5.
Jun 15, 2015 12:22pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:23 PM
BR1986FB;1734892 wrote:I don't know that GS has the "better" team. Deeper, yes, but not so much better. The Warriors taking over in the 4th has more to do with fatigue than being better, if you ask me. They have done well at exploiting mismatches.
Those daggers from Curry late in the game aren't going in because Cleveland is tired.
Jun 15, 2015 12:23pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:27 PM
Automatik;1734901 wrote:Those daggers from Curry late in the game aren't going in because Cleveland is tired.
No but giving up offensive rebounds is a direct result of that.
Jun 15, 2015 12:27pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:27 PM
Automatik;1734901 wrote:Those daggers from Curry late in the game aren't going in because Cleveland is tired.
But they might be going in because he's getting more open looks in the 4th due to tired defenders not being able to get in his face.
Jun 15, 2015 12:27pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:28 PM
robj55;1734900 wrote:Game 4 was a 6 point game going into the 4th quarter when the Cavs couldn't make a shot, 4-27 from three. This series has been competitive. Game 4 the Warriors made adjustments and Blatt refused to make his own until game 5.

see how anecdotal facts always help your case.

How bout how the Cavs were down 15-20 at points. Down 12 at half time. Lost by 11? Or nah since that doesn't fit your narrative?
Jun 15, 2015 12:28pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:29 PM
Ok then, Cleveland is giving them the games. Got it.
Jun 15, 2015 12:29pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:30 PM
Automatik;1734905 wrote:Ok then, Cleveland is giving them the games. Got it.

you have to understand.... Cleveland cannot be beaten, they can only beat themselves.
Jun 15, 2015 12:30pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:30 PM
I mean I give them all the credit in the world for getting to this point, but fuck...it's obvious.
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Jun 15, 2015 12:32 PM
Automatik;1734905 wrote:Ok then, Cleveland is giving them the games. Got it.
Cleveland isn't "giving them the games" but if you can't see that the Cavs are running on fumes late in the game, you're watching a different game than most of us.
Jun 15, 2015 12:32pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:32 PM
Automatik;1734907 wrote:I mean I give them all the credit in the world for getting to this point, but fuck...it's obvious.

Thats the biggest issue... instead of being like "god damn, cleveland is giving GS a game even though they're injured and have a limited bench, this is impressive" We're going to say Ah, we're still better than them, we're just not finishing. It's crazy talk.
Jun 15, 2015 12:32pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:36 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734911 wrote:Thats the biggest issue... instead of being like "god damn, cleveland is giving GS a game even though they're injured and have a limited bench, this is impressive" We're going to say Ah, we're still better than them, we're just not finishing. It's crazy talk.
It's a game. To say the Cavs are out of it is also crazy talk.
Jun 15, 2015 12:36pm
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Jun 15, 2015 12:40 PM
sleeper;1734914 wrote:It's a game. To say the Cavs are out of it is also crazy talk.
I already said you were right in the fact that if you have LeBron, you always have a shot.
Jun 15, 2015 12:40pm