Fun to watch 2 good football teams with good QBs and good coaches.

Maybe should've used the word great a lot

With 2 of their 4 games against SF and SEA, the Cards either win both (they are fighting for home field), split (they are probably in the playoffs) or lose both (and they are DONE in the division race and in trouble for the playoffs).

You can say I'm dramatic, but the Falcons defense is awful. I think at-best, Arizona is 10-6, which still might be good enough.

Saying the cards are awful is being dramatic off one result, sorry. You might as well join the rest of the journalists who wrote of the Patriots after week 3.

More than just today. They have 27 points total the last 3 weeks (8 of them came at the end of this ATL game, when it was already over). Sure, they beat Detroit (who went almost 10 quarters without a TD) and lost to Seattle (the defending champs), but it isn't just one week. They are 13th in the NFC in total offense, which simply doesn't match up with their 9-3 record unless their defense is the 1985 Bears. The Atlanta Falcons, a slightly above-average, albeit inconsistent offense, abused them today.

Azubuike24;1680429 wrote:More than just today. They have 27 points total the last 3 weeks (8 of them came at the end of this ATL game, when it was already over). Sure, they beat Detroit (who went almost 10 quarters without a TD) and lost to Seattle (the defending champs), but it isn't just one week. They are 13th in the NFC in total offense, which simply doesn't match up with their 9-3 record unless their defense is the 1985 Bears. The Atlanta Falcons, a slightly above-average, albeit inconsistent offense, abused them today.

Today was the 2nd time all season they have allowed more than 20 points and the other time was at Denver.....Philly, Dallas (at Dallas), Seattle, Detroit and San Diego...none of them cracked 20

We'll see. 10-6 is my prediction, possibly missing playoffs depending on who those losses are to. They can't score.

Newman got destroyed.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/11/30/7311043/mike-evans-block-terrance-newman-video-buccaneers-bengals

Azubuike24;1680437 wrote:We'll see. 10-6 is my prediction, possibly missing playoffs depending on who those losses are to. They can't score.

I was just saying how good their defense has been this year....1985 Bears allowed more than 20 points 3x in first 13 games....then they got even better.

They were so damn good.

Buike weren't you the one a few weeks ago who said the cards could lose out and miss the playoffs? And they won two in a row lol

Le'Veon Bell nearly at 1700 yards total from rushing (1,045) and receiving (640)

SportsAndLady;1680466 wrote:Buike weren't you the one a few weeks ago who said the cards could lose out and miss the playoffs? And they won two in a row lol

Wait and see. I still think they MISS out.

They have head to head wins vs Dallas and Detroit

10-6 looks good for them unless Detroit and Romo both dominate December.

Hell, the Dallas of early could win out. The Dallas of late could lose out. Interestingly, 2 of Dallas' 4 remaining games are on the road, but at Chicago and at Washington. Two teams who are also a complete mess.

Detroit is home vs Minnesota and Tampa Bay, then at Chicago. I could see them entering week 17 at Green Bay 11-4, possibly with the division on the line if the Packers lose any of their 3 before that.

Azubuike24;1680489 wrote:Hell, the Dallas of early could win out. The Dallas of late could lose out. Interestingly, 2 of Dallas' 4 remaining games are on the road, but at Chicago and at Washington. Two teams who are also a complete mess.

Detroit is home vs Minnesota and Tampa Bay, then at Chicago. I could see them entering week 17 at Green Bay 11-4, possibly with the division on the line if the Packers lose any of their 3 before that.

Yeah....sounds good but I've never put much trust in Romo or anything Detroit....it'll play out. I don't much care lol. Football really let me down this long weekend.

like_that;1680421 wrote:Saying the cards are awful is being dramatic off one result, sorry. You might as well join the rest of the journalists who wrote of the Patriots after week 3.

Cardinals are now finding out what has been a lingering thought in many Browns fans heads all season.....can a journeyman scrub (Stanton/Hoyer) turn into a legit QB after years of being mediocre/bad? The answer is usually no.

Dolphins looking to get to 7-5 tonight making them 1 of 6 teams in a gigantic clusterfuck for the #6 seed....while 8-4 Chargers hold the #5 they have a crazy hard schedule remaining. Everyone might need to brush up on their tie-breaking procedures.

[h=1]NFL Tiebreaking Procedures[/h] The six postseason participants from each conference are seeded as follows:

1. The division champion with the best record.
2. The division champion with the second-best record.
3. The division champion with the third-best record.
4. The division champion with the fourth-best record.
5. The Wild Card club with the best record.
6. The Wild Card club with the second-best record.

The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.
NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.
[h=1]TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION[/h] If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.
[h=2]Two Clubs[/h]

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

[h=2]Three or More Clubs[/h] (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

[h=1]TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM[/h] If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

[h=2]Two Clubs[/h]

1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

[h=2]Three or More Clubs[/h] (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.
[h=1]OTHER TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURES[/h]

1. Only one club advances to the playoffs in any tie-breaking step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the applicable division or Wild Card tie-breakers. As an example, if two clubs remain tied in any tie-breaker step after all other clubs have been eliminated, the procedure reverts to Step 1 of the two-club format to determine the winner. When one club wins the tiebreaker, all other clubs revert to Step 1 of the applicable two-club or three-club format.
2. In comparing records against common opponents among tied teams, the best won-lost-tied percentage is the deciding factor, since teams may have played an unequal number of games.
3. To determine home-field priority among division-titlists, apply Wild Card tie-breakers.
4. To determine home-field priority for Wild Card qualifiers, apply division tie-breakers (if teams are from the same division) or Wild Card tiebreakers (if teams are from different divisions).
5. To determine the best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed, add a team's position in the two categories, and the lowest score wins. For example, if Team A is first in points scored and second in points allowed, its combined ranking is "3." If Team B is third in points scored and first in points allowed, its combined ranking is "4." Team A then wins the tiebreaker. If two teams are tied for a position, both teams are awarded the ranking as if they held it solely. For example, if Team A and Team B are tied for first in points scored, each team is assigned a ranking of "1" in that category, and if Team C is third, its ranking will still be "3."

[h=1]TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING[/h]

1. Clubs not participating in the playoffs shall select in the first through 20th positions in reverse standings order.
2. The Super Bowl winner is last and Super Bowl loser is next-to-last.
3. The losers of the Conference Championship games shall select 29th and 30th based on won-lost-tied percentage.
4. The losers of the Divisional playoff games shall select 25th through 28th based on won-lost-tied percentage.
5. The losers of the Wild Card games shall select 21st through 24th based on won-lost-tied percentage.

If ties exist in any grouping except (2) above, such ties shall be broken by strength-of-schedule. If any ties cannot be broken by strength-of-schedule, the divisional or conference tie-breakers, if applicable, shall be applied. Any ties that still exist shall be broken by a coin flip.

Am waiting for them to replace the coin toss with Rock-paper-scissors-lizard-spock

tl;dr

I know they already discussed this, but it won't surprise me at all to see the NFL expand the playoffs after this season.

Ironman92;1680794 wrote:tl;dr

I know.
Just is the tiebreakers......

like_that;1680797 wrote:I know they already discussed this, but it won't surprise me at all to see the NFL expand the playoffs after this season.

I'd be against that

One of the new guys reffing this game....the one game I saw him earlier this year his crew did a nice job.

Jets running amuck straight down the field.

Marty Morninweg sp calling a great game and throwing everything in the book at the Dolphins