sherm03;1660062 wrote:I completely disagree. Oregon was always considered a potential playoff team because it was assumed they would be the undefeated Pac-12 champion. There are still undefeated Pac-12 teams out there, who could turn out to be undefeated Pac-12 champions. Oregon's loss did nothing to the chances of a 1-loss B1G team making the playoff because Oregon was basically a placeholder for "Pac-12 Champ" in the playoff picture.

So I'll say it again, the B1G champ has the exact same chance at making the playoffs right now as they did 24 hours ago.

Classyposter58;1659991 wrote:Ohio State needs to worry more about it's line and getting better than a playoff berth. Oregon was just being Oregon last night

sleeper;1660072 wrote:Your logic is terrible. Pac-12 champ isn't guaranteed an auto-bid. Your "place holder" argument is about as dumb as dumb can be.

SportsAndLady;1660082 wrote:Sherm acting like the pac12 is this monster conference with a lock into the playoffs is laughable.

Probably spewing that because nd plays a few PAC 12 teams

sherm03;1660085 wrote:Not saying Pac-12 is a monster. Not saying they are a lock. But I am saying that a Pac-12 champ gets the bid before the B1G champ assuming both are undefeated or both have 1-loss.

sherm03;1660085 wrote:Not saying Pac-12 is a monster. Not saying they are a lock. But I am saying that a Pac-12 champ gets the bid before the B1G champ assuming both are undefeated or both have 1-loss.

lhslep134;1660098 wrote:If USC wins the Pac 12 are they getting in over a 1 loss MSU or OSU? Maybe, but those chances are smaller than a 1 loss Oregon. Therefore, Oregon losing helped.

Also, Oregon losing opens up the possibility of a 2 loss Pac 12 champ.

No matter which way you look at it, Sherm is 100% wrong in his interpretation of the basic logic involved here.

sleeper;1660094 wrote:Based on? How'd the last couple Rose Bowls gone for the Pac-12? LOL

DeyDurkie5;1660095 wrote:I really hope this situation plays out and the big gets in over them just so your pretentious ass is shut up.

ernest_t_bass;1660100 wrote:No, but no. Their chances are the same.

lhslep134;1660102 wrote:You saying no and no over and over again doesn't change the fact that you're wrong. But keep doing so anyways.

lhslep134;1660102 wrote:You saying no and no over and over again doesn't change the fact that you're wrong. But keep doing so anyways.

ernest_t_bass;1660104 wrote:I'm not being serious. Derp.

lhslep134;1659994 wrote:To say the chances of a B1G team making the playoffs are the same before and after Oregon losing is short-sighted. For starters, a 1 loss Oregon gets in over B1G but not a 2 loss Oregon. Oregon now has a lot better chance to lose 2 games than they did before yesterday. Second, it takes away another unbeaten, which undoubtedly moves the needle, even if only a little.

1_beast;1660234 wrote:Buckeyes not televised????

Azubuike24;1660358 wrote:Honestly, without a Big XII title game, who beats the winner of Oklahoma/Baylor? IMO, that's the weakest of the "big 5" conferences and I just don't see anyone in the league beating those teams. The best shot is likely Oklahoma State, and they play AT OU and at BAY, back to back weeks. One of those teams will go unbeaten and probably be the #1 or #2 seed, considering everyone else except maybe FSU loses at least once. All the SEC teams, Pac 12 teams and Notre Dame have a MUCH tougher road to not drop one.

sherm03;1660359 wrote:I agree. I think it comes down to an undefeated Oklahoma in, with a 1-loss SEC champ, 1-loss SEC runner-up, 1-loss Pac-12 Champ, 1-loss ACC champ, and a 1-loss B1G all fighting for the last 3 spots.

ernest_t_bass;1660360 wrote:I'm sorry. I just don't think a "runner up" deserves to be in a FOUR team playoff. EIGHT team? Ok. But (my OPINION), is that you should win your conference to deserve a spot. Also, tourney committee should demand Big 12 to have a champ game.