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Skyhook79

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Dec 30, 2009 1:28 PM
John Hollinger and his stupid system he concocted. I apoligize to the intelligent NBA fans for posting anything related to John Hollinger.



http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/rankings?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fhollinger%2frankings
Dec 30, 2009 1:28pm
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royal_k

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Dec 30, 2009 1:35 PM
Looks like a very intelligent and educated system.
Dec 30, 2009 1:35pm
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SportsAndLady

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Dec 30, 2009 1:39 PM
Skyhook do you enjoy sucking dick?
Dec 30, 2009 1:39pm
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Cleveland Buck

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Dec 30, 2009 1:50 PM
Who would you have #1 over the Cavs? The team whose ass they just spanked on Christmas Day or any of the other teams, all of whom have worse records?
Dec 30, 2009 1:50pm
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namod65

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Dec 30, 2009 1:55 PM
Dude hes a Lakers fan cut him some slack, they don't know any better.
Dec 30, 2009 1:55pm
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karen lotz

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Dec 30, 2009 1:56 PM
SportsAndLady wrote: Skyhook do you enjoy sucking dick?
lol :D
Dec 30, 2009 1:56pm
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Nate

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Dec 30, 2009 2:14 PM
The power rankings are a joke. The Lakers at 7.. Wow... I hate the Lakers and that's a horrible ranking. They are top 2.
Dec 30, 2009 2:14pm
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dazedconfused

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Dec 30, 2009 2:20 PM
SportsAndLady wrote: Skyhook do you enjoy sucking dick?
haha
Dec 30, 2009 2:20pm
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miller45452003

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Dec 30, 2009 2:29 PM
SportsAndLady wrote: Skyhook do you enjoy sucking dick?
Yes...Al Capone on here!:heart:
Dec 30, 2009 2:29pm
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hoops23

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Dec 30, 2009 2:29 PM
The intelligent NBA fan knows that Hollingers rankings are formula based and are actually pretty accurate.
Scoring margin
One of my goals was to create a system that told us more about a team's quality than the standings do.

So instead of winning percentage, these rankings use points scored and points allowed, which are better indicators of a team's quality than wins and losses.

This might not sound right at first, but studies have shown scoring margin to be a better predictor of future success than a team's win-loss record. Thus, scoring margin is a more accurate sign of a team's quality.

That explains why, for instance, three seasons ago the Spurs ranked ahead of the Mavericks even though they had won nine fewer games -- San Antonio's scoring margin was superior. That ultimately proved to be prophetic, as Dallas lost in the first round of the playoffs while the Spurs won the championship.

Strength of schedule
Yes, this matters in the NBA, too. It is not as profound in the pro game as in the college game, because the 30 NBA teams are more evenly matched, but it still affects a team's results.

This comes into play mainly in the early part of the season, when there can be wide disparities in the quality of competition, but even at the end of the season, there will be differences among teams -- particularly when one conference is far better than the other.

Recent performance
Another key variable in the formula is recent performance, which I included for two reasons.

First, it stands to reason that more recent games are more valid indicators of how strong a team is currently.

Second, I wanted these rankings to follow the model of Marc Stein's "human" power rankings, on the site each Monday, in which a team's recent play is a huge factor.

To accomplish this, I weigh a team's full-season results by two-thirds and its most recent games by another one-third, so the overall ranking gives greater weight to recent games.

You're probably wondering at this point what I mean by "recent." It varies depending on where we are in the season.

For the first 40 games of the season, it means a team's past 10 games.

From that point forward, however, it means the most recent 25 percent of a team's schedule. The net result is that, after the first 40 games, a team's most recent 25 percent of its schedule will account for 40 percent of its ranking.

Home and road
The final variable here is home and road games.

In each game, a team's scoring margin is adjusted by the 3.5-point advantage we (and by "we," I mean the Vegas books, of course) expect the home team to have in a game between otherwise equal opponents.

This can have a large effect at certain points in the season for some teams, as their home and road numbers can get way out of line. This is particularly true for the two "circus/rodeo" teams -- Chicago and San Antonio -- who take at least one extended road trip every season because their arenas are being used for special events and thus end up with a big home-road disparity.
Seeing as how these rankings are updated DAILY, I could see how the Lakers are 7th. They haven't exactly played that well recently and haven't had many road games. Hell, as few days ago I believe the Cavs were 9th and the Hawks were 1st... I didn't make a post bashing the dude. He's a great NBA mind.
Dec 30, 2009 2:29pm
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Dec 30, 2009 2:39 PM
SportsAndLady wrote: Skyhook do you enjoy sucking dick?
Not gonna lie.....I lol'd.
Dec 30, 2009 2:39pm
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j_crazy

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Dec 30, 2009 2:45 PM
has hollinger ever been right?
Dec 30, 2009 2:45pm
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Footwedge

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Dec 30, 2009 2:55 PM
The Cavs are ranked number 1 right now. No surprise at all.
Dec 30, 2009 2:55pm
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hangonsloopy

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Dec 30, 2009 4:21 PM
lol if it doesn't say the Lakers are the best skyhook thinks its stupid!
Dec 30, 2009 4:21pm
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devil1197

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Dec 30, 2009 5:03 PM
Boo hoo because the Lakers aren't #1?

They haven't exactly played well recently and these standings are updated daily.

Meanwhile, the Cavs are on a 5 game winning streak with 4 on the road and 4 wins against playoff teams. All the games against the playoff teams were 10+ point wins.
Dec 30, 2009 5:03pm
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sportswizuhrd

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Dec 30, 2009 6:05 PM
For the season....Cavs road wins came against teams with 195 wins(13 road wins for Cavs), Lakers-116 in 9 wins. Total wins for opponents, Cavs-358, Lakers-330. Lakers have played 10 games outside the Staples Center, only the Heat have less road games(they have the least total games played). Other than Miami and the Spurs with 18 and the Lakers with 20, no one has played more than 17 home games. The Cavs have played 14. 16 of the Lakers final 28 games after the All Star game will be on the road.
Dec 30, 2009 6:05pm
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Bluepride13

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Dec 30, 2009 6:18 PM
SportsAndLady wrote: Skyhook do you enjoy sucking dick?



LOL...My soda is on the screen! Could you be a little more specific though.
Dec 30, 2009 6:18pm
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Heretic

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Dec 31, 2009 11:39 AM
SportsAndLady wrote: Skyhook do you enjoy sucking dick?
I'm pretty sure the reason he hasn't responded yet is because he's not sure if he enjoys it or just does it out of a psychological compulsion. So he's been real "busy" over the last 22 hours to figure out the answer to this question.
Dec 31, 2009 11:39am