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Mar 12, 2014 9:01 AM
Isaiah Trufant is now a Brown, and Cleveland appears to be done with Revis talks.
Mar 12, 2014 9:01am
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Mar 12, 2014 9:15 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589248 wrote:if Watkins is at 4, they'll take him. If not, they'll go QB and WR at 26. Either way you have to draft a WR and a RB in the first 2 rounds. You don't have to draft QB this year.
Uhh, what?!?!?!? They don't need a QB this year but they need to get a WR when they have a Pro Bowl WR and TE? How could you possibly have this opinion?
Mar 12, 2014 9:15am
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Mar 12, 2014 9:39 AM
Rotinaj;1589256 wrote:Uhh, what?!?!?!? They don't need a QB this year but they need to get a WR when they have a Pro Bowl WR and TE? How could you possibly have this opinion?
uhhh b/c you only have 1 reciever and you need ATLEAST 2 in the NFL and uhhh b/c next years QB class is better than this... if Hoyer blows you get one then.
Mar 12, 2014 9:39am
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Mar 12, 2014 9:42 AM
like_that;1589252 wrote:You definitely don't have to draft a WR with the first pick and you sure as hell don't have to draft a RB in the first round. We already have a super WR (not to mention another great option in Cameron). We don't need to go after another potential super WR. We have way too many other needs. Not to mention as I have said before, name the last team that won a SB with a bunch of super star WRs...


I guess you haven't learned your lesson the last 13 years regarding the QB position. As long as the franchise keeps getting cute with that position, it will go nowhere.
you don't need to draft a WR with the first pick but Watkins is by far the best offensive player in the draft. And we need another WR.. so you take him if he's there. If he's not you take a QB and WR at 26. and a RB in the second round. I didn't say you take a RB in the first round.. i said first 2.. reading is tough.
Mar 12, 2014 9:42am
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Mar 12, 2014 9:47 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589263 wrote:you don't need to draft a WR with the first pick but Watkins is by far the best offensive player in the draft. And we need another WR.. so you take him if he's there. If he's not you take a QB and WR at 26. and a RB in the second round. I didn't say you take a RB in the first round.. i said first 2.. reading is tough.
No need to get butthurt and defensive. I know what you said. I wouldn't take a rb before the 2nd period. "First two rounds" consists of the first and second round. Comprehending your own posts is tough...

If Watkins and a QB is at 4 you take the QB or defensive player.
Mar 12, 2014 9:47am
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Mar 12, 2014 9:48 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589261 wrote:uhhh b/c you only have 1 reciever and you need ATLEAST 2 in the NFL and uhhh b/c next years QB class is better than this... if Hoyer blows you get one then.
The Seahawks disagree with you, so does every team that won a SB.
Mar 12, 2014 9:48am
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Mar 12, 2014 9:51 AM
like_that;1589267 wrote:The Seahawks disagree with you, so does every team that won a SB.

every team that's won a superbowl had 1 WR and the rest sucked?
Mar 12, 2014 9:51am
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Mar 12, 2014 9:51 AM
I would trade down before drafting Watkins at 4.
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Mar 12, 2014 9:52 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589268 wrote:every team that's won a superbowl had 1 WR and the rest sucked?
All of our reception options suck other than Gordon?
Mar 12, 2014 9:52am
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Mar 12, 2014 9:53 AM
like_that;1589266 wrote:No need to get butthurt and defensive. I know what you said. I wouldn't take a rb before the 2nd period. "First two rounds" consists of the first and second round. Comprehending your own posts is tough...

If Watkins and a QB is at 4 you take the QB or defensive player.
no butthurt, just explaining why you are wrong.
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like_that;1589271 wrote:All of our reception options suck other than Gordon?

did i say reception options or WR?
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ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589272 wrote:no butthurt, just explaining why you are wrong.
Lol please name me all the teams that won SBs with two super star WRs. You must have jerked off to Matt Millens drafting style.
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Mar 12, 2014 9:55 AM
like_that;1589269 wrote:I would trade down before drafting Watkins at 4.

Watkins possibly won't even be there at 4. You think you'd get him later? good luck.
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ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589273 wrote:did i say reception options or WR?
Cameron is pretty much a wr. Our QB has two pro bowl options. We don't need to give him another superstar, we need an actual QB that can throw to those guys. Sanders would be a great fit.
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Mar 12, 2014 9:56 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589275 wrote:Watkins possibly won't even be there at 4. You think you'd get him later? good luck.
No I'm saying id much rather trade down than draft Watkins at 4.

Reading is tough.
Mar 12, 2014 9:56am
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Mar 12, 2014 9:56 AM
like_that;1589274 wrote:Lol please name me all the teams that won SBs with two super star WRs. You must have jerked off to Matt Millens drafting style.

I'd hardly call Gordon a super star. He's very good and the best we have, but that's about it right now. Could he be? sure. is he? no.
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Mar 12, 2014 9:58 AM
like_that;1589277 wrote:No I'm saying id much rather trade down than draft Watkins at 4.

Reading is tough.
And get who?
Mar 12, 2014 9:58am
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Mar 12, 2014 9:59 AM
Gordon is top 5 WR in the league. He's a superstar.
Mar 12, 2014 9:59am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:00 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589278 wrote:I'd hardly call Gordon a super star. He's very good and the best we have, but that's about it right now. Could he be? sure. is he? no.
If he can statically be the best WR in the NFL with weeden/Campbell throwing to him, then he surely can be a super star. Getting another WR isn't going to help him. He was tearing teams up when they were focusing on him since they knew he was the browns only offensive threat (since Campbell decided to stop throwing at Cameron).
Mar 12, 2014 10:00am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:02 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589280 wrote:And get who?
It depends how far they trade down. BPA.

Basically with the 4th pick Id rank these options:

1. QB
2. Best defensive player (either Mack or clowney will be there)
3. Trade down
4. Watkins
Mar 12, 2014 10:02am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:05 AM
1. Watkins
2. [EMAIL="QB@4"]QB@4[/EMAIL] [EMAIL="WR@26"]WR@26[/EMAIL]
3. trade out of it
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Mar 12, 2014 10:07 AM
btw.. seattle didn't have any superstar WR.. guess by your logic we should trade Gordon to win a superbowl huh?
Mar 12, 2014 10:07am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:20 AM
I disagree with everything zwick 4 prez has said in this thread.

Hope this helps.

(I especially felt anger when I read "wait til next year to draft a QB" fuck you)
Mar 12, 2014 10:20am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:22 AM
SportsAndLady;1589291 wrote:I disagree with everything zwick 4 prez has said in this thread.

Hope this helps.

(I especially felt anger when I read "wait til next year to draft a QB" fuck you)
So since this is a football thread, that pretty much validates everything I said.
Mar 12, 2014 10:22am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:23 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589287 wrote:btw.. seattle didn't have any superstar WR.. guess by your logic we should trade Gordon to win a superbowl huh?
Who shit in your Cheerios today?From never posting on a browns thread to all out butthurt. As my man Jon Gruden would say. Incredible!
Mar 12, 2014 10:23am