Ousted Cleveland CEO Joe Banner -- who is transitioning out of his role in Cleveland after being not asked back along with GM Mike Lombardi -- had the new offensive and defensive coordinators reporting directly to him, CBS Sports NFL Insider Pat Kirwan reports.

Kirwan spoke to a league source at the NFL combine in Indianapolis who told him Banner was a bit of a control freak and structured the coaching staff so that the new coordinators would answer directly to him.


That's atypical of an NFL team, to say the least. Generally speaking coordinators answer directly to the head coach, in this case recently hired Mike Pettine.

Having coordinators circumvent the head coach and GM by reporting to the CEO of the team is just out there. As Kirwan wonders, it's entirely possible that Banner wanted to control what players played and when.

sleeper;1584150 wrote:Alright guys. I know a QB is more important than a LB. Can we at least find some common ground here? Does anyone really think Manziel or Bridgewater is worth the #4 pick? I want a good QB too, I just don't see anything that makes me go "Yeah that guy will be better than Brandon Weeden!".

IggyPride00;1584228 wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24455925/joe-banner-had-new-browns-coordinators-reporting-directly-to-him


Thank God Haslam came to his senses finally.

Haven't seen this gem posted yet, but apparently had Banner stayed he yet again reworked the organizational chart so that the Offensive and Defensive coordinators would report to him instead of the head coach or GM.

I knew he had a Napoleon complex, but that is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. I knew it ate at him that he was nothing more than a bean counter and not a football guy, but what he had in mind for this season had Haslam not pulled the plug would have been a blue print for chaos.

There's a good story out there right now about Ray Farmer doing some outreach to season ticket holders just kind of out of the blue, and it is that kind of stuff that the prior regime would have been loath to do.

We knew things were dysfunctional, but the reporting indicates we didn't even know the half of it or how extreme it really was.

IggyPride00;1584228 wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24455925/joe-banner-had-new-browns-coordinators-reporting-directly-to-him


Thank God Haslam came to his senses finally.

Haven't seen this gem posted yet, but apparently had Banner stayed he yet again reworked the organizational chart so that the Offensive and Defensive coordinators would report to him instead of the head coach or GM.

I knew he had a Napoleon complex, but that is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. I knew it ate at him that he was nothing more than a bean counter and not a football guy, but what he had in mind for this season had Haslam not pulled the plug would have been a blue print for chaos.

There's a good story out there right now about Ray Farmer doing some outreach to season ticket holders just kind of out of the blue, and it is that kind of stuff that the prior regime would have been loath to do.

We knew things were dysfunctional, but the reporting indicates we didn't even know the half of it or how extreme it really was.

thavoice;1584284 wrote:More I read and hear about this Pettne guy and Farmer, and getting rid of Banner and Lombardi, the more I think the browns may finally have gotten it right.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1584295 wrote:Shhhhhhh!!! Don't jinx us!!!

Footwedge;1584649 wrote:Some of the posters are absolutely clueless on Johnny Manziel. His antics at age 19 has nothing to do with his football ability. Graded out by many to be the best football player ever to wear an Aggie uniform.

It would be so easy to land both Manziel and Sammy Wadkins in this draft. The offense would be absolutely loaded and threaten Denver with the most points next year and beyond. Unfortunately, hearing Farmer talking about getting "his quarterback" in the later rounds is enough to make me sick.

HighRoller74;1584650 wrote:You do realize #26, and next years first isn't enough for the #1, right

se-alum;1584661 wrote:FWIW from Walter Football.

Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida:
In conversations here in Indy it's apparent the quarterbacks stack up 1) Blake Bortles, 2) Teddy Bridgewater, 3) Derek Carr, 4) Johnny Manziel on a number of team boards.

like_that;1584930 wrote:Browns released DQ.

Footwedge;1584931 wrote:Don't know who Walter Football is but obviously he/she has absolute shit for brains.

Commander of Awesome;1584938 wrote:SMFH, I would like to personally pwn Farmer for that.

Footwedge;1584931 wrote:Don't know who Walter Football is but obviously he/she has absolute shit for brains.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1584945 wrote:Except it somewhat makes sense. Due $4.1 M roster bonus on March 16, and was a bottom 6 ILB in the league. He's been awesome for us, but his body is breaking down and his abilities are diminishing. Yes, he had 140 tackles, but most of the were downfield, not stuffs at the LOS. He will be greatly missed, but organizationally, it makes sense.