If anything he validated he should be starting.vball10set;1645550 wrote:^^^your boy looked pathetic... hope this helps.
Cool story bro.rydawg5;1645530 wrote:So when I was 5-6 years old and I began loving the Browns with Bernie Kosar, Reggie Langhorne, Kevin Mack, Ernest Byner, Brian Brennen, Ozzie Newsome, Webster Slaughter, Michael-Dean Perry, Matt Bahr, Frank Minnefield, Clay Mathews, etc.. that doesn't qualify me as a Browns fan?
Or do Browns fans have to put there blinders on like when they gave me shit for saying Colt McCoy wasn't the answer either?
Using this logic and based on last night's performance, then cut 'em both, make Shaw your #1 with Rex backing up.IggyPride00;1645554 wrote:
...and if they both suck at least go with the guy who has a future and some upside
Not really. They either run the ball or throw short checkdowns.HitsRus;1645587 wrote:Other than Shaw's Hail Mary at the end....has any of our QBs thrown downfield? ...in either game?
Running game looked pretty solid with Tate averaging 5.1 ypc and West averaging almost 4.like_that;1645603 wrote:I'm hoping the browns are just trying to get the QBs reps, because when it counts they better run the ball more.
Lol stfuIggyPride00;1645556 wrote:Farmer needs to take a round of applause as well.
He was too cool to do anything of substance to address the WR position, and we have the worst group in the NFL now. The only guy that has half an ounce of talent is about to miss a good chunk or all of the season.
Good thing he didn't alter his draft board when the news came down. I guess living in denial made him feel good, but now Browns fans everywhere have to pay the price with unwatchable offense yet again.
To me it looked like the timing was off all game between receivers and qb. A huge reason for that is the splitting if repainted practice. I know as a receiver it's tough to get good timing with 2 different qb's especially when they have different styles. Once a qb gets most the reps those accuracy issue will improve greatly.BR1986FB;1645606 wrote:Running game looked pretty solid with Tate averaging 5.1 ypc and West averaging almost 4.
I have no issue with getting them reps but the accuracy issues are glaring to me. It would be one thing if the WR's were dropping everything but these QB's are missing badly with their throws.
Agreed. One play specifically was johnny to I think cameron. Johnny thought he was going to sit down in the coverage but cameron kept his route going. Give the starting qb a few weeks with just the number 1's and that familiarity will be there for the season.Crimson streak;1645619 wrote:To me it looked like the timing was off all game between receivers and qb. A huge reason for that is the splitting if repainted practice. I know as a receiver it's tough to get good timing with 2 different qb's especially when they have different styles. Once a qb gets most the reps those accuracy issue will improve greatly.
Hoyer, to my eyes at least, looked like he was comfortable in the pocket. Like he was going through the reads and had a calmness about him.Automatik;1645622 wrote:Even though they both looked shitty, I think you gotta go with Hoyer week 1. Manziel isn't ready.
Agreed. My feelings are that if you think you legitimately have something in Manziel, but he's still skittish, you don't throw your "commodity" to the wolves. Let Hoyer take the beating if they both suck and bring JFF in later after he's watched.shook_17;1645634 wrote:Honestly you give Hoyer the nod weeks 1-3. If we start 1-2 or 0-3 you start Manziel after the bye week. It gives him another month or so to get comfortable with the offense and being in the pocket.
